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In the mean time, clueless farang across Thailand, have to go in and out of the country and run their a$$e$ off for visa, after visa after visa after visa after work permit after tourism transit visa, non immigrant B visa, after business trillion kachillian multi million dollar visa every 60 days 100 times a year...

In short, in the mean time Thailand's government immigration MAFIA organization will do anything to suck the clueless foreigners dry off money, because Visa runs are one of Thailand's sources of bloody money income...

The Johnny come lately Russians get 3 months on arrival dont they?

We're lucky we still get 30 days.

I dont think the visa run business is doing all that flash. Used to be 5 or 6 companies running buses up to twice a day 7 days a week. Now i notice there is only one (advertised) doing 4 runs per week only.

The government started clamping down on farangs back when Thaksin came into office. Being doing it ever since.

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I'm not Thai (I'm farang) but come from a country that has had a reciprocal visa-free agreement with Japan for decades. On each of my two-only visa-free trips to Japan in which I accompanied a busload of my Thai professional colleagues equipped with pre-approved Japan visas obtained in Bangkok I, and only I, was taken by Japanese immigration to a separate room to be interrogated and my luggage searched. They did not connect me, the only farang, to a bus load of 30-plus asians. We were all in Japan on tour as guests of a large Japanese steel company. My thoughts at the time were if this was the welcome I'm going to get everytime I visit Japan visa free, then maybe its worth getting a visa beforehand anyway. Good luck to all the Thais on their visa-free trips to Japan

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Thai tourism abroad might grow ..

but how does help Thai Tourism?

Surely Thai traveling within Thailand would be better for Thai tourism

Money spent at home id better then money spent in Japan

Yes i agree, and the money would go alot futher in Thailand !!

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I think the Japs are tired of flying to Thailand to visit Thermae so why not bring Thermae to Japan?

In case you are not aware, "Jap" is a racist term from the days of WWII propaganda.

It has been highly inappropriate in civilized discourse for more than 50 years.

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I think the Japs are tired of flying to Thailand to visit Thermae so why not bring Thermae to Japan?

In case you are not aware, "Jap" is a racist term from the days of WWII propaganda.

It has been highly inappropriate in civilized discourse for more than 50 years.

In my opinion so is "Farang", but that doesn't stop anybody.

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I am glad to see Japan giving consideration. My wife and I expereince many inconveniences regarding visas as it seems she requires a visa in most non asian countries of which Japan has been excluded from other participating asian countries to date. Glad to see it happen and as Asia becomes stronger I hope to see more border openings. Hell it took us four tries to get my wife a visa to the US and we do not even live there, I am an American and neither has any reason to stay there nor wish.

Unfortunately the "inconveniences" are to a large extent caused by the high numbers of Thais who cheat or try to cheat the immigration system in such countries. They have a reputation for being a bad risk. It is relatively easy for a Japanese or a Korean tourist to gain entry to european countries or the US.

As other posters have mentioned, in South Korea , despite no visa requirement for Thais, Thai women are regularly interrogated at the border and often refused entry.

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I think the Japs are tired of flying to Thailand to visit Thermae so why not bring Thermae to Japan?

In case you are not aware, "Jap" is a racist term from the days of WWII propaganda.

It has been highly inappropriate in civilized discourse for more than 50 years.

In my opinion so is "Farang", but that doesn't stop anybody.

Are you suggesting that farang is historically used as a racist pejorative?

The word farang comes from French "Francai" meaning Frenchman. It has

been used for several hundred years in Thailand to refer to westerners.

It's very similar to the usage of "Angley" (Englishman) in India and Pakistan

to refer to foreigners.

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Until they apologise for atrocities committed during WWII, I will not be visiting Japan, nor taking my Thai spouse there.

Are you OK about the atrocities committed by the US govt (which still continue to this day)?

1. the US govt (nixon, as advised by kissinger) attacked cambodian civilians, a neutral state, as a show of muscle to vietnam ...and the leaking of this information led to nixon bugging the white house ... which led to watergate ... concluding with hisresignation to avoid being thrown out of office

2. the indonesian dictatorship wanted to run the people and territory of east timor, so they created a plan to take the land and put forward a plan of genocide against the people. on the day they decided to go ahead with this plan, Suharto had a meeting with US president ford, advised by kissinger, who explicitly gave the go ahead to Suharto to invade and commit genocide, as kissinger was aware of a growing popularity in east timor of a communist party. As a result, most of the weapons, helicopters, logistical support, ammunition that the indonesians needed to win the war were supplied by the US. The invasion, executions, destruction of the land, and resulting famine, cost the lives of over 100,000 civilan east timorians

3. the US (CIA, under direction of kissinger) aided two groups in the kidnapping of René Schneider (general of chilean army) to overthrow their democratically elected socialist leader Salvador Allende because he was a marxist and obviously would not agree to be one of the US's bitches. The kidnapping ending in the generals death, which led to the eventual death of Allende being overthrown by Pinochet in a coup. During pinochet's dictatorship for 17 years following, various reports and investigations found that 1,200–3,200 people were killed, up to 80,000 were imprisoned, and up to 30,000 were tortured by his regime including women and children. But thanks to the US, at least they didn't have their democratically elected marxist government..

The US have been doing this for an insanely long time and continue to do so and no one is hunting them.

As history has proven without doubt, america will not help any country unless it is in coincidence of them getting a benefit, as evidenced by not showing up in wwII while over 20 million people had been slaughtered until the axis directly involved the US by bombing american shores. They will also actively aid and even pursue genocide of civilians for their own benefit.

Anyone with a functioning brain will know that the invasion of iraq was for their own benefit at the expense of a sickening number of innocent people.

If you are going to complain about Japan and what they did 70 years ago, don't forget to complain about the US - their genocides (plural) continue to this day.

Maps424 -- good post.

Your reference to Ford, Kissinger and their underhanded involvement in East Timor is a good

example of inept U.S. foreign policy. Folks who specialize in Asian Studies are more likely to be

familiar with these issues, but you are the first person I've encountered to mention this.

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I think the Japs are tired of flying to Thailand to visit Thermae so why not bring Thermae to Japan?

In case you are not aware, "Jap" is a racist term from the days of WWII propaganda.

It has been highly inappropriate in civilized discourse for more than 50 years.

In my opinion so is "Farang", but that doesn't stop anybody.

Are you suggesting that farang is historically used as a racist pejorative?

The word farang comes from French "Francai" meaning Frenchman. It has

been used for several hundred years in Thailand to refer to westerners.

It's very similar to the usage of "Angley" (Englishman) in India and Pakistan

to refer to foreigners.

I know where farang comes from. Frankly, I think everyone knows what it means. It's the way it's used in Thai society.

And yes it is used in a racist way. If you can't buy that explanation then we don't need to discuss this any further because you evidently have a point to prove and I'm not interested.

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Markaew --

I know where farang comes from. Frankly, I think everyone knows what it means. It's the way it's used in Thai society.

And yes it is used in a racist way. If you can't buy that explanation then we don't need to discuss this any further because you evidently have a point to prove and I'm not interested.

Great retort... now maybe folks will overlook your racist term for the Japanese.

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Until they apologise for atrocities committed during WWII, I will not be visiting Japan, nor taking my Thai spouse there.

Are you OK about the atrocities committed by the US govt (which still continue to this day)?

1. the US govt (nixon, as advised by kissinger) attacked cambodian civilians, a neutral state, as a show of muscle to vietnam ...and the leaking of this information led to nixon bugging the white house ... which led to watergate ... concluding with hisresignation to avoid being thrown out of office

2. the indonesian dictatorship wanted to run the people and territory of east timor, so they created a plan to take the land and put forward a plan of genocide against the people. on the day they decided to go ahead with this plan, Suharto had a meeting with US president ford, advised by kissinger, who explicitly gave the go ahead to Suharto to invade and commit genocide, as kissinger was aware of a growing popularity in east timor of a communist party. As a result, most of the weapons, helicopters, logistical support, ammunition that the indonesians needed to win the war were supplied by the US. The invasion, executions, destruction of the land, and resulting famine, cost the lives of over 100,000 civilan east timorians

3. the US (CIA, under direction of kissinger) aided two groups in the kidnapping of René Schneider (general of chilean army) to overthrow their democratically elected socialist leader Salvador Allende because he was a marxist and obviously would not agree to be one of the US's bitches. The kidnapping ending in the generals death, which led to the eventual death of Allende being overthrown by Pinochet in a coup. During pinochet's dictatorship for 17 years following, various reports and investigations found that 1,200–3,200 people were killed, up to 80,000 were imprisoned, and up to 30,000 were tortured by his regime including women and children. But thanks to the US, at least they didn't have their democratically elected marxist government..

The US have been doing this for an insanely long time and continue to do so and no one is hunting them.

As history has proven without doubt, america will not help any country unless it is in coincidence of them getting a benefit, as evidenced by not showing up in wwII while over 20 million people had been slaughtered until the axis directly involved the US by bombing american shores. They will also actively aid and even pursue genocide of civilians for their own benefit.

Anyone with a functioning brain will know that the invasion of iraq was for their own benefit at the expense of a sickening number of innocent people.

If you are going to complain about Japan and what they did 70 years ago, don't forget to complain about the US - their genocides (plural) continue to this day.

So time erases everything ? Thank god !! So 70 years from now America will be looked upon kindly?
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Until they apologise for atrocities committed during WWII, I will not be visiting Japan, nor taking my Thai spouse there.

Are you OK about the atrocities committed by the US govt (which still continue to this day)?

1. the US govt (nixon, as advised by kissinger) attacked cambodian civilians, a neutral state, as a show of muscle to vietnam ...and the leaking of this information led to nixon bugging the white house ... which led to watergate ... concluding with hisresignation to avoid being thrown out of office

2. the indonesian dictatorship wanted to run the people and territory of east timor, so they created a plan to take the land and put forward a plan of genocide against the people. on the day they decided to go ahead with this plan, Suharto had a meeting with US president ford, advised by kissinger, who explicitly gave the go ahead to Suharto to invade and commit genocide, as kissinger was aware of a growing popularity in east timor of a communist party. As a result, most of the weapons, helicopters, logistical support, ammunition that the indonesians needed to win the war were supplied by the US. The invasion, executions, destruction of the land, and resulting famine, cost the lives of over 100,000 civilan east timorians

3. the US (CIA, under direction of kissinger) aided two groups in the kidnapping of René Schneider (general of chilean army) to overthrow their democratically elected socialist leader Salvador Allende because he was a marxist and obviously would not agree to be one of the US's bitches. The kidnapping ending in the generals death, which led to the eventual death of Allende being overthrown by Pinochet in a coup. During pinochet's dictatorship for 17 years following, various reports and investigations found that 1,200–3,200 people were killed, up to 80,000 were imprisoned, and up to 30,000 were tortured by his regime including women and children. But thanks to the US, at least they didn't have their democratically elected marxist government..

The US have been doing this for an insanely long time and continue to do so and no one is hunting them.

As history has proven without doubt, america will not help any country unless it is in coincidence of them getting a benefit, as evidenced by not showing up in wwII while over 20 million people had been slaughtered until the axis directly involved the US by bombing american shores. They will also actively aid and even pursue genocide of civilians for their own benefit.

Anyone with a functioning brain will know that the invasion of iraq was for their own benefit at the expense of a sickening number of innocent people.

If you are going to complain about Japan and what they did 70 years ago, don't forget to complain about the US - their genocides (plural) continue to this day.

So time erases everything ? Thank god !! So 70 years from now America will be looked upon kindly?

It's been only 40 years since the U.S. napalmed Vietnamese villages, and today the Vietnamese people

seem to have forgiven us even though we have neither apologized nor learned any lessons about waging

wars in distant countries for nefarious reasons.

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There are a lot of very rich Thais

An absolute lie.

So all these Mercedes Benzes running around Bangkok are owned by whom? Turks and Russians?... sick.gif

In case you are not aware, Thailand ranks third after Germany and U.S. in number of Benzes registered.

I'm fairly sure these are not owned by tuk-tuk drivers.

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Too many westerners are blind to the fact that the richest people around are the Asians,

U can quote old bill & Carl and Warren but they are far and between ...when u trickle down to the millionaires there are tons of Asians and they are mostly understated in their display of wealth

I know someone will turn this into an anti Chinese bash thread but heck u had your turn in wasting money in consumerism and its their turn now

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There are a lot of very rich Thais

An absolute lie.
So all these Mercedes Benzes running around Bangkok are owned by whom? Turks and Russians?... sick.gif

In case you are not aware, Thailand ranks third after Germany and U.S. in number of Benzes registered.

I'm fairly sure these are not owned by tuk-tuk drivers.

When adjusted for population size, I seem to recall that Thailand is actually ranked first in the world for Benz ownership. Have no idea whether or not those Benz owners have a burning desire to travel to Japan.

Regarding anger and wars, I think Bradinasia is correct. I spent two weeks traveling North Vietnam on a motorcycle by myself. Everyone would ask me where I was from. I would hesitantly answer America. When it looked like they would not attack me, I would ask them if they were still angry at America. The answer was always no, that that was ancient history, and it was better to be looking forward. Which made perfect sense to me. It would be like asking an American if they were still made at the British for burning down our capital in 1812...... :-)

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Until they apologise for atrocities committed during WWII, I will not be visiting Japan, nor taking my Thai spouse there.

I'm sure they will miss you - just like you missed the countless apologies they have tendered.

Have you publicly apologised for your country's wartime atrocities?

Has your wife publicly apologised for the anti-Burmese and Cambodian atrocities?

You best stay at home, in Isaan - there's high horse there which also can't read newspapers

Until they apologise for atrocities committed during WWII, I will not be visiting Japan, nor taking my Thai spouse there.

Excuse me. Japanese government leaders have apologized umpteen times over the years.

Besides, the folks that committed these atrocities are dead long ago.

Or should we continue to lay the blame on the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren?

Is that reasonable... or even civilized?

Uneducated white people are fun to interact with . . . and there are lots of them, FarangTalk being one of them

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Until they apologise for atrocities committed during WWII, I will not be visiting Japan, nor taking my Thai spouse there.


Excuse me. Japanese government leaders have apologized umpteen times over the years.
Besides, the folks that committed these atrocities are dead long ago.

Or should we continue to lay the blame on the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren?

Is that reasonable... or even civilized?

Agree with Brad ...good to see if any western countries will ever apologize for the same stuff they dumped on Asian countries in the years and some are still alive with the recent ones in SEA

Same stuff? Hmmm.... Can you give any examples?

I take it you've not heard of Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia? Your turn.

Visa waivers can only be a good thing for both countries, though I'd think Thailand would benefit more if they'd pull their collective heads out and travel more

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In the mean time, clueless farang across Thailand, have to go in and out of the country and run their a$$e$ off for visa, after visa after visa after visa after work permit after tourism transit visa, non immigrant B visa, after business trillion kachillian multi million dollar visa every 60 days 100 times a year...

In short, in the mean time Thailand's government immigration MAFIA organization will do anything to suck the clueless foreigners dry off money, because Visa runs are one of Thailand's sources of bloody money income...

Visa runs? Maybe if you acquired the correct visa, you and every other silly guy wouldn't have to do "visa runs". Live here legally or don't whine.

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ot recognizing the dI think the Japs are tired of flying to Thailand to visit Thermae so why not bring Thermae to Japan?
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The last time I e-mailed your office about this man being very rude by using the word "Jap/Japas" I was told to let you know who it was. So, here it is! This is the third time that I know of that he used the word and do not appreciate it at all. I can NOT believe that you/admin would let it go through again.

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ot recognizing the dI think the Japs are tired of flying to Thailand to visit Thermae so why not bring Thermae to Japan?

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The last time I e-mailed your office about this man being very rude by using the word "Jap/Japas" I was told to let you know who it was. So, here it is! This is the third time that I know of that he used the word and do not appreciate it at all. I can NOT believe that you/admin would let it go through again.

I think you're taking this too seriously - not heard the word 'japas' but I don't see the work 'jap' as being negative . . . and Japan happens to be my favourite country in Asia, favourite food and people and I am Godfather to a dear old friend in Tokyo.

Having said that, I wouldn't use the term 'jap' towards them nor in their presence. Hmm, possibly you're right.

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In the mean time, clueless farang across Thailand, have to go in and out of the country and run their a$$e$ off for visa, after visa after visa after visa after work permit after tourism transit visa, non immigrant B visa, after business trillion kachillian multi million dollar visa every 60 days 100 times a year...

In short, in the mean time Thailand's government immigration MAFIA organization will do anything to suck the clueless foreigners dry off money, because Visa runs are one of Thailand's sources of bloody money income...

Visa runs? Maybe if you acquired the correct visa, you and every other silly guy wouldn't have to do "visa runs". Live here legally or don't whine.

Sorry, they make it almost impossible to live legally here unless you're married to a Thai, you are of retirement age and can jump through their hoops, or you work for someone else. Someone who doesn't fit into that criteria, those who are self employed for example, have no choice but to find alternative ways to stay here. They really need a new visa classification for those who are self employed and can show financial means to support themselves, without having to start a BS business, and hire Thais who you don't have jobs for.

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ot recognizing the dI think the Japs are tired of flying to Thailand to visit Thermae so why not bring Thermae to Japan?

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The last time I e-mailed your office about this man being very rude by using the word "Jap/Japas" I was told to let you know who it was. So, here it is! This is the third time that I know of that he used the word and do not appreciate it at all. I can NOT believe that you/admin would let it go through again.

I think you're taking this too seriously - not heard the word 'japas' but I don't see the work 'jap' as being negative . . . and Japan happens to be my favourite country in Asia, favourite food and people and I am Godfather to a dear old friend in Tokyo.

Having said that, I wouldn't use the term 'jap' towards them nor in their presence. Hmm, possibly you're right.

It is surely the sentiment behind the term? What about Brit, Jock, Aussie, Russky, Scandi, Yankee?

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Posted 2013-06-13 16:40:56

ot recognizing the dI think the Japs are tired of flying to Thailand to visit Thermae so why not bring Thermae to Japan?

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The last time I e-mailed your office about this man being very rude by using the word "Jap/Japas" I was told to let you know who it was. So, here it is! This is the third time that I know of that he used the word and do not appreciate it at all. I can NOT believe that you/admin would let it go through again.

I think you're taking this too seriously - not heard the word 'japas' but I don't see the work 'jap' as being negative . . . and Japan happens to be my favourite country in Asia, favourite food and people and I am Godfather to a dear old friend in Tokyo.

Having said that, I wouldn't use the term 'jap' towards them nor in their presence. Hmm, possibly you're right.

It is surely the sentiment behind the term? What about Brit, Jock, Aussie, Russky, Scandi, Yankee?

Yes and no. I'd say it is how the recipient feels about it because it isn't the deliverer's sentiment rather the recipient's.

I can walk up to an Aboriginal and call him Abo and mean it in a friendly way, doesn't mean it is. How about a country Aussie calling them coons or Boongs/Bungs?

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I'm not Thai (I'm farang) but come from a country that has had a reciprocal visa-free agreement with Japan for decades. On each of my two-only visa-free trips to Japan in which I accompanied a busload of my Thai professional colleagues equipped with pre-approved Japan visas obtained in Bangkok I, and only I, was taken by Japanese immigration to a separate room to be interrogated and my luggage searched. They did not connect me, the only farang, to a bus load of 30-plus asians. We were all in Japan on tour as guests of a large Japanese steel company. My thoughts at the time were if this was the welcome I'm going to get everytime I visit Japan visa free, then maybe its worth getting a visa beforehand anyway. Good luck to all the Thais on their visa-free trips to Japan

I think you are right, it will be in that way and some who do not know how to answer right, will, could be sent back. Expensive!

http://www.th.emb-japan.go.jp/en/consular/visaindex.htm

Visa Exemption for Thai Nationals Effective from 1st July 2013new.gif

1. As previously announced Thai nationals traveling to Japan for a short-term period will be exempted from visas. The Government of Japan has now announced the effective date is 1st July 2013 and the length of stay is for not more than 15 days. If anyone wishes to visit, work, or stay in Japan for other purposes for more than 15 days they still have to apply for a visa.

2. We hope that exchange between Japan and Thailand will further be promoted by this visa exemption.

3. When entering Japan visitors will go through the immigration procedure at the airport which is similar to when they apply for a visa at the embassy. The immigration officer might ask some questions concerning the purpose of visit or might ask to check certain documents such as a return air ticket, ect. Visitors should check the list of necessary documents that might be required when entering Japan at our website (first page of Consular Affairs).

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In the mean time, clueless farang across Thailand, have to go in and out of the country and run their a$$e$ off for visa, after visa after visa after visa after work permit after tourism transit visa, non immigrant B visa, after business trillion kachillian multi million dollar visa every 60 days 100 times a year...

In short, in the mean time Thailand's government immigration MAFIA organization will do anything to suck the clueless foreigners dry off money, because Visa runs are one of Thailand's sources of bloody money income...

Visa runs? Maybe if you acquired the correct visa, you and every other silly guy wouldn't have to do "visa runs". Live here legally or don't whine.

So please inform what is the "CORRECT"visa ???

retirement visa fine but if you do not live in the city, although you do not have to leave the kingdom you still have to report. Living in a rural area you may have to travel 80 kilometers to Immigration in the city every 3 months.

If you have a O visa you will have to leave the kingdom but you may live in Nong Khai so 5 kilometers -over the bridge to Laos-1 hour and return with Duty free and stamp for 90 days. AND NO 800,000 bht in the bank. take your choice.

So I repeat what is a correct visa. ???

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