David48 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Its clearly a batting pitch then. Come on smokes, be fair, the pitch was a minefield I'm hoping Clarke can continue on and score himself another double century At the moment ... I just be happy if I scored. The once lush pitch hasn't seen water for many an over now ... Rain is not forecast for many yet either ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Here's an interesting.... umm.... take on the DRS... http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/shows/rush-hour-with-james-brayshaw-and-billy-brownless/blog/2013/8/billy-bakes-the-cricket-drs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Smith just got his third life Though the middle one was difficult to say for sure, the first and third were definitely out. Wrong decisions do go both ways. I went to sleep and haven't seen these. Wrong DRS decisions were they? First was an 'umpire's call' on an lbw when hawkeye showed most of the ball would have hit the stump. Second was a caught behind. Definite sound, possible deviation, but no hotspot. Onfield umpire said not out so, as with Khawaja, as he couldn't be sure the third umpire went with the onfield one. Third was a plumb lbw, would have gone on to hit middle, given not out by the onfield umpire; but by then England had used up their reviews. England a bit upset at the time, but then settled down and got on with it; as the Australians have done when decisions go against them. Interesting point made about hotspot on TMS yesterday. It relies on the friction as the ball passes or hits the bat raising the temperature on that part of the bat above that of the rest of the bat; this is what shows on hotspot. But if the day is very hot, as yesterday was, then the bat is already hot from the sun and so there will be very little, if any, temperature difference and so nothing will show on hotspot. Edited August 2, 2013 by 7by7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Clarke was sublime yesterday but I like Steve Smith. He's unorthodox and would have Ranjitsinhji turning in his grave but his technique is similar to how my own was when I played but he can time the ball and play off the back foot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Smith just got his third life Though the middle one was difficult to say for sure, the first and third were definitely out. Wrong decisions do go both ways. I went to sleep and haven't seen these. Wrong DRS decisions were they? First was an 'umpire's call' on an lbw when hawkeye showed most of the ball would have hit the stump. Second was a caught behind. Definite sound, possible deviation, but no hotspot. Onfield umpire said not out so, as with Khawaja, as he couldn't be sure the third umpire went with the onfield one. Third was a plumb lbw, would have gone on to hit middle, given not out by the onfield umpire; but by then England had used up their reviews. England a bit upset at the time, but then settled down and got on with it; as the Australians have done when decisions go against them. Interesting point made about hotspot on TMS yesterday. It relies on the friction as the ball passes or hits the bat raising the temperature on that part of the bat above that of the rest of the bat; this is what shows on hotspot. But if the day is very hot, as yesterday was, then the bat is already hot from the sun and so there will be very little, if any, temperature difference and so nothing will show on hotspot. When you think about it, the players behavior, given the appalling umpiring has been commendable. I don't think there has been much, if any bad behavior as yet. Tony Hill and Kumar Dharmasena don't seem to be up to International standard methinks. Bring back Dickie Bird I say 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 When you think about it, the players behavior, given the appalling umpiring has been commendable. I don't think there has been much, if any bad behavior as yet. Tony Hill and Kumar Dharmasena don't seem to be up to International standard methinks. Bring back Dickie Bird I say 8 out of the 12 elite umpires are Australian or English, ruling them out of standing in this series. In this era of professional umpires it shouldn't matter which country they are from. Back when the country hosting supplied the umpires, the English umpires were always impartial and most of the Australian ones were also. Pick the best umpires available regardless of citizenship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) What a dopey shot from Smith to get out...and just 11 from his hundred. Listen to the crowd reaction of Warner coming out Edited August 2, 2013 by BookMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) What a dopey shot from Smith to get out...and just 11 from his hundred. Listen to the crowd reaction of Warner coming out And I do hope they let Joe Root lose on him... Edited August 2, 2013 by Basil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 What a dopey shot from Smith to get out...and just 11 from his hundred. Listen to the crowd reaction of Warner coming out And I do hope the let Joe Root lose on him... Boycott has..4 references to boxing straight off.. Warney : "I fancy a Root right now. A bit of Joe Root" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 And he's gone! What on earth was that review about? It looked like Clarke was telling him not to review...shaking his head...we will be hearing more on this one. pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese Australia..NO batting collapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 And he's gone! What on earth was that review about? It looked like Clarke was telling him not to review...shaking his head...we will be hearing more on this one. pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese Australia..NO batting collapse I like this tweet from TMS: If the Australians get another tight call and can't use a decision, I don't think England will be the only country booing Warner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will27 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Is it my imagination or is it a bit quiet on here tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Is it my imagination or is it a bit quiet on here tonight Yes very odd. Australia declare at 527. Should they have batted on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Is it my imagination or is it a bit quiet on here tonight Poms only ever open their mouth to gloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Is it my imagination or is it a bit quiet on here tonight Poms only ever open their mouth to gloat. Yes we do .Expect a lot of gloating in 3 day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Day 2, Poms already playing for a draw! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Well the weather look a bit wet for the next 3 days, hope the Aussies brought their wellies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurnell Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Is it my imagination or is it a bit quiet on here tonight Poms only ever open their mouth to gloat. Yes we do .Expect a lot of gloating in 3 day. You are claiming to be English yet have no command of the language? Are you an immigrant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Day 2, Poms already playing for a draw! Playing for the close; start in earnest tomorrow. Mistake, though, to send Bresnan in as nightwatchman so early. If England can save the follow on, it's going to be a draw, if not then only the weather can prevent an Australian win. But, to regain the Ashes they have to win this and the remaining two; England can afford to lose this one, and a draw here means they keep the Ashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Day 2, Poms already playing for a draw! Playing for the close; start in earnest tomorrow. Mistake, though, to send Bresnan in as nightwatchman so early. If England can save the follow on, it's going to be a draw, if not then only the weather can prevent an Australian win. But, to regain the Ashes they have to win this and the remaining two; England can afford to lose this one, and a draw here means they keep the Ashes. Australia don't have a realistic chance to regain the ashes. A draw or a win here for the Aussies would be enough. Another draw or win in the next two tests would be the aim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Day 2, Poms already playing for a draw! Playing for the close; start in earnest tomorrow. Mistake, though, to send Bresnan in as nightwatchman so early. If England can save the follow on, it's going to be a draw, if not then only the weather can prevent an Australian win. But, to regain the Ashes they have to win this and the remaining two; England can afford to lose this one, and a draw here means they keep the Ashes. England only needs to draw one of three matches to keep the Ashes, and England have an extra team member now, Mother Nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Is it my imagination or is it a bit quiet on here tonight Poms only ever open their mouth to gloat. Yes we do .Expect a lot of gloating in 3 day. You are claiming to be English yet have no command of the language? Are you an immigrant? Is that a legendary baggy green attempt at sledging? You've got me rattled now cobber... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Day 2, Poms already playing for a draw!Playing for the close; start in earnest tomorrow. Mistake, though, to send Bresnan in as nightwatchman so early. If England can save the follow on, it's going to be a draw, if not then only the weather can prevent an Australian win. But, to regain the Ashes they have to win this and the remaining two; England can afford to lose this one, and a draw here means they keep the Ashes. Yes, 2 games up, play for draws and a series win. F..K the millions of viewers and spectators who would like to see good entertaining cricket right through. A Boycott mentality reigns. Where's Botham when you need him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Day 2, Poms already playing for a draw!Playing for the close; start in earnest tomorrow.Mistake, though, to send Bresnan in as nightwatchman so early. If England can save the follow on, it's going to be a draw, if not then only the weather can prevent an Australian win. But, to regain the Ashes they have to win this and the remaining two; England can afford to lose this one, and a draw here means they keep the Ashes. Yes, 2 games up, play for draws and a series win. F..K the millions of viewers and spectators who would like to see good entertaining cricket right through. A Boycott mentality reigns. Where's Botham when you need him? Very true about the Boycott mentality. Shown by the English team and some posters here. Grind it out. Take no risks. England have a great team, they should play to dominate every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) Day 2, Poms already playing for a draw!Playing for the close; start in earnest tomorrow. Mistake, though, to send Bresnan in as nightwatchman so early. If England can save the follow on, it's going to be a draw, if not then only the weather can prevent an Australian win. But, to regain the Ashes they have to win this and the remaining two; England can afford to lose this one, and a draw here means they keep the Ashes. Yes, 2 games up, play for draws and a series win. F..K the millions of viewers and spectators who would like to see good entertaining cricket right through. A Boycott mentality reigns. Where's Botham when you need him? Very true about the Boycott mentality. Shown by the English team and some posters here. Grind it out. Take no risks. England have a great team, they should play to dominate every game. That's how Australia played for 3 winning decades. Attacking style always. If Australia had come in chasing over 500 with 30 overs left in the day they would have had a target of 100 by stumps. Edited August 3, 2013 by Old Croc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 If either of you try to say that were the positions reversed; over 500 behind and over three days to play; Australia would have done any different; I wont believe you. Clarke is not that stupid. If they had, they may have been 100 plus at stumps, but they could also, after nearly two debilitating days in the field, easily been 6 wickets down as well! Play according to the situation; anyone who knows test cricket will tell you that. England's aims today are to 1) still be batting (first innings!) at the close; 2) avoid the follow on. To do the latter they need to score at a rate of at least 3 an over; but the first is the priority. That's test cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 If either of you try to say that were the positions reversed; over 500 behind and over three days to play; Australia would have done any different; I wont believe you. Clarke is not that stupid. If they had, they may have been 100 plus at stumps, but they could also, after nearly two debilitating days in the field, easily been 6 wickets down as well! Play according to the situation; anyone who knows test cricket will tell you that. England's aims today are to 1) still be batting (first innings!) at the close; 2) avoid the follow on. To do the latter they need to score at a rate of at least 3 an over; but the first is the priority. That's test cricket. Australia played the opposite way of which you speak for 20 successful years. Score quickly no matter the circumstance. That is test cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 The difference is ,we are playing for today ,you are hanging onto the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Bookman, you memory plays you false. There were times when the situation demanded it that the Australian team of which you speak played the same as England did last night and scored slowly. Ponting was too good a player and too good a captain to have done otherwise. You just remember the times when the run rate was high, and have forgotten the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Bookman, you memory plays you false. There were times when the situation demanded it that the Australian team of which you speak played the same as England did last night and scored slowly. Ponting was too good a player and too good a captain to have done otherwise. You just remember the times when the run rate was high, and have forgotten the others. I must have forgotten that one time in 20 years they scored at 2 per over. It does not surprise me at all 7by7 that you fondly remember the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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