Tmymaimee Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I would love to own a nice sports car in Thailand but I cannot accept paying 6 million baht for a 2 million baht Boxster. From talking with importers, tax rates are based on engine displacement with some rebates for hybrids. My brother in law bought a Tesla and absolutely loves it. I think it would work very well around Pattaya and Bangkok because of the relatively short distances and traffic jams where you won't waste money idling. He says the acceleration is awesome, the car is quiet and lots of room inside. I would seriously consider this car and have a truck for longer trips and carrying stuff. How would someone calculate the duty on an electric car? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 According to this thread http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/490144-super-fast-car-the-tesla-roadster-in-bangkok/ the roadster is 8.5 MB all in compared with 2.6 MB in the US I'd like one too, but it cost more than my house 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon210 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 First question: how do you expect an electric car not to waste money idling, when aircon is an absolute requirement here? Second, it is already imported here... Price tag: 8.5 million THB. http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble-td3760418 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmymaimee Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 First question: how do you expect an electric car not to waste money idling, when aircon is an absolute requirement here? Second, it is already imported here... Price tag: 8.5 million THB. http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html#nabble-td3760418 Okay, forget that stupid idea. Think I'll just continue waiting for my order on the Ford Ranger Wildtrak placed in March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 If importing yourself, and can manage to get it taxed by the book only, taxes will be: 80% import duty + 11.1% excise & interior tax + 7% VAT (all compounding, and based on CIF price). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Good question though. Shame about the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rchapstick Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Wierd that Model discussed in the link is the Roadster, that Tesla no longer makes. The new Model S is, in the US, significantly less expensive. Great car too. Here's a gimicky Tesla demo. Kinda cool too. http://vimeo.com/68832891 Edited June 24, 2013 by rchapstick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Well in theory the duty should be a lot less because it is an Eco car. For the same reason the Cayenne hybrid is way cheaper than the std Cayenne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Well in theory the duty should be a lot less because it is an Eco car. For the same reason the Cayenne hybrid is way cheaper than the std Cayenne. Import duties for new cars are always 80%, unless they are assembled in Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines or Australia. Hybrids and electric vehicles do get a special 10% excise tax rate though, so the total taxes on something like this is 80% + 11.1% + 7% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 So to be clear, that's not 80+11.1+7, it is price * 1.8* 1.111 * 1.07 = 113% duty and that's calculated also on the shipping cost and the estimated value of the car, not the purchase price. Assuming $50k USD for the car and $10k to ship it, that's going to be a 4m baht car at least. Also, it is going to sound stupid, if you pay that much, you at least want to annoy your neighbours. I am sure YUMA (IIRC the current importer) would not be selling them for 8m if they were able to be imported for 4m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 So to be clear, that's not 80+11.1+7, it is price * 1.8* 1.111 * 1.07 = 113% duty and that's calculated also on the shipping cost and the estimated value of the car, not the purchase price. Assuming $50k USD for the car and $10k to ship it, that's going to be a 4m baht car at least. Also, it is going to sound stupid, if you pay that much, you at least want to annoy your neighbours. I am sure YUMA (IIRC the current importer) would not be selling them for 8m if they were able to be imported for 4m. Your math is correct Why would you assume an official importer wouldn't mark up 100%? The money to run their business has to come from somewhere 100% markup is actually very low compared to mainstream brands - but there's a lot of expenses that quickly eat into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveromagnino Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 So to be clear, that's not 80+11.1+7, it is price * 1.8* 1.111 * 1.07 = 113% duty and that's calculated also on the shipping cost and the estimated value of the car, not the purchase price. Assuming $50k USD for the car and $10k to ship it, that's going to be a 4m baht car at least. Also, it is going to sound stupid, if you pay that much, you at least want to annoy your neighbours. I am sure YUMA (IIRC the current importer) would not be selling them for 8m if they were able to be imported for 4m. Your math is correct Why would you assume an official importer wouldn't mark up 100%? The money to run their business has to come from somewhere 100% markup is actually very low compared to mainstream brands - but there's a lot of expenses that quickly eat into that. Oh, I mean if they could sell it profitably (at whatever margin they want) for 4m, they would; as the cost price is 4m, the price must therefore be something more than 4m. But yes, for a boutique brand a price margin of 100% would seem to likely be something not unreasonable, now that I think about the cost of carrying parts etc to service it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRealDeal Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) It would be a great car IF the drivers side wasn't on the wrong side of the car. Might be legal but it's an accident waiting to happen and a real pain to drive ..... you really want a sports car in a place with a lot of traffic when you can't see well enough to pass people ? Edited June 28, 2013 by MrRealDeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 It would be a great car IF the drivers side wasn't on the wrong side of the car. Might be legal but it's an accident waiting to happen and a real pain to drive ..... you really want a sports car in a place with a lot of traffic when you can't see well enough to pass people ? Aren't they right hand drive as based on a British built Elise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRealDeal Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) It would be a great car IF the drivers side wasn't on the wrong side of the car. Might be legal but it's an accident waiting to happen and a real pain to drive ..... you really want a sports car in a place with a lot of traffic when you can't see well enough to pass people ? Aren't they right hand drive as based on a British built Elise ? Why would a small American car company make cars with the drivers side on the wrong side making them illegal to drive in the US ? ...... of course they are not Oops my bad in 2010 they started making them on the right ......oops sorry Edited June 28, 2013 by MrRealDeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRealDeal Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 One of the more common misconceptions about the Tesla Roadster is that it is an electrified Lotus Elise. This has been an interesting problem to deal with because the Tesla is vastly different from an Elise and it is important that people are aware of this. In fact, we recently counted how many parts the two cars shared and the total number was under 7% by parts count. If you were to analyze it by parts value, the number would be even smaller. So you could say that the Tesla is similar to a Lotus Elise, except it has a totally different drivetrain , body panels, aluminum tub, rear sub-frame, brakes, ABS system, HVAC and rear suspension. The Tesla also neglects to carry over the gas tank, emissions equipment and exhaust. If you were to try to convert an Elise to a Tesla and started throwing away parts that aren’t carried over what you would basically be left with a windshield, dashboard, front wishbones and a removable soft top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidLucifer Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 It would be a great car IF the drivers side wasn't on the wrong side of the car. Might be legal but it's an accident waiting to happen and a real pain to drive ..... you really want a sports car in a place with a lot of traffic when you can't see well enough to pass people ? Aren't they right hand drive as based on a British built Elise ? Why would a small American car company make cars with the drivers side on the wrong side making them illegal to drive in the US ? ...... of course they are not Don't you mean the 'right' side. It's all in the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRealDeal Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 they make them on both since 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickcyclist Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Let's hope they start manufacturing here soon and running out charging stations. Plenty of sun here for solar recharging! Best car ever. When they start making the smaller model they will sweep the board, goodbye gasoline ICE and good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Let's hope they start manufacturing here soon and running out charging stations. Plenty of sun here for solar recharging! Best car ever. When they start making the smaller model they will sweep the board, goodbye gasoline ICE and good riddance. ..... ....I 'Like' it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Why not just get a top-spec Prius? Not a sports car but you get that eco-car stuff and the rooftop solar panel and air con cooling is pretty cool. Edited January 20, 2014 by OMGImInPattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Why not just get a top-spec Prius? Not a sports car but you get that eco-car stuff and the rooftop solar panel and air con cooling is pretty cool. You are missing a point(Tesla)...it's all Electric !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why not just get a top-spec Prius? Not a sports car but you get that eco-car stuff and the rooftop solar panel and air con cooling is pretty cool. You are missing a point(Tesla)...it's all Electric !!! The 6.5M dif in price buys allot of gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Charging Stations in Thailand, WHY..?. There are Live Electric Cables dangling down all over the place.Help Yourself for free.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Just be careful which one you choose..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaustev Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Just be careful which one you choose..... Do you mean the power cable or the Tesla? Edited January 23, 2014 by eaustev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortenaa Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Maybe Thailand should introduce tax cuts on electric car, like Norway does: http://www.ibtimes.com/tesla-owners-norway-get-134000-tax-break-which-more-base-price-model-s-1507740 The Tesla S has been one of the best selling cars in Norway last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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