Fried chicken takeaway called 'Hitler' opens in Thailand

[aTomsLife]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

No need for Asians to learn about European wars. Europe doesn't teach children about Asian conflicts. In fact, I was never taught anything at all about Hitler or WW2 in the UK, Our history lessons were about stone age, Romans and other boring things. No modern history whatsoever. If I wasn't taught it in the UK, I can't see why Thailand should teach it.

Most Westerners take these Hitler things too seriously. Just a few images. Just a name. It's funny.

Wow, you really didn't learn anything about WW2!

News flash: WW2 wasn't a European war: It was a W O R L D war, so, yes, Asia was involved. Even Thailand (though perhaps students here aren't taught about it in school because the government isn't terribly proud of the part they played).

Edited July 5, 2013 by aTomsLife

[manarak]

I'll repeat what I said in comments I did on other instances of Hitler-themes stuff in Thailand: it is just for LOLz !!

Totally ridiculous, this stuff is not promoting Hitler's ideas or legacy, it ridicules him!

[hellodolly]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

I'm sorry, but are you really saying you don't care what hitler did?

Don't care at all, nor do I care what Genghis Khan, Slobodan Milosevic, Stalin, the Japanese, the IRA, Pol Pot, et al did.

It's in the past, forgive and forget.

You might have added learn to your statement.

That way it is harder to repeat.

[hellodolly]

I for one am glad its opened. Its a great source of ammunition when Thais get all wobbly lipped and 'outraged' about some artwork in a distant land that the great Thai cultural committee has deemed disrespectful to buddhism.

It would be a sure fire success in Iran.

Edit

I just realized they no longer have that Idiot for a leader.

Have no idea on what the new one believes or how many idiots bought into the last leader. You know the guy who said there was no such thing as the 6,000,000 Jews killed in gas chambers by the Nazis.

Also there is no gay people in Iran.

Edited July 5, 2013 by hellodolly

[Soutpeel]

To close the topic we ought to have a topic on this subject---Is it sick or not to name the shop Hitler ??? just a vote of posters would give us a real per cent. I suggest Sick would win easily.

All this u-boat/pearl harbour/war camps---most are aware of it all, without arguing.

I don't want to extend this theme too far but I disagree, I believe far too many posters are not "aware of it all", otherwise we wouldn't be having such an empassioned debate, one only has to look at some of the things being posted to see that is true.

right another perspective who is offended by this then..hands up ?

http://chairman-maos-chicken.xanga.com/

[lemoncake]

My apologies..." lemoncake"..."lemonjelly" same same but different...

Very mature

[gentlebreeze]

Hmmmmmmmm...... All this debating and arguing is making me rather peckish....... The adolf quarter pounders are on me!!!

[rametindallas]

Slogan.

"It's carpet biting good"

Motivational Poster for the workers in the back 'Arbeit Macht Frei'

[lemoncake]

To close the topic we ought to have a topic on this subject---Is it sick or not to name the shop Hitler ??? just a vote of posters would give us a real per cent. I suggest Sick would win easily.

All this u-boat/pearl harbour/war camps---most are aware of it all, without arguing.

I don't want to extend this theme too far but I disagree, I believe far too many posters are not "aware of it all", otherwise we wouldn't be having such an empassioned debate, one only has to look at some of the things being posted to see that is true.

right another perspective who is offended by this then..hands up ?

http://chairman-maos-chicken.xanga.com/

Try asking the Chinese who were present or had relatives affected by his rule, preferably face to face if you man enough to see whose hands would be where

[chiang mai]

Since much of the divide in this thread is between Brits and Americans, here's a site that'll help put things into perspective for both sides perhaps:

http://www.bombsight.org/#15/51.5086/-0.0904

It's a map of the streets of London showing how many German bombs fell where during WWII, perhaps the Americans in this thread might pause and reflect how they might feel if the map were say New York, Boston, Miami, Denver or similar.

[rametindallas]

Mao is still on the currency of China and he killed more people than Hitler (if you want to look at history in these childishly simplistic ways) but everyone still wants their made in China iPhones. It's westerners who need to get over their obsession with Hitler, not Thais.

What's childishly simplistic about harboring disdain for genocide? Humans are a pretty vicious species and always will be, no reason to pretend otherwise, I get that. But there's no good reason to celebrate it, either.

Still, my objection with this has more to do with what passes for inventive these days. People have a tendency of going too far, all for shock value: what once was detestable now passes for edgy marketing. It's rather formulaic at this point.

"People have a tendency of going too far, all for shock value"

Thailand: The 'Madonna' of Nations

[culicine]

Would love to see a bunch of irate German tourists torch the place and places like it. Perhaps Thais will get the hint that this is not appropriate in a country heavily relying on foreign tourism. Thailand doesn't have much once it stuffs it's rice export and tourism industries.

[blabla1]

Hmmmm, gives me an idea, Bin Laden rotis or Sadam shish kebabs, or George Bush burgers, how about, Mussolini pizza??

[Bluespunk]

Would love to see a bunch of irate German tourists torch the place and places like it. Perhaps Thais will get the hint that this is not appropriate in a country heavily relying on foreign tourism. Thailand doesn't have much once it stuffs it's rice export and tourism industries.

what rice export industry?

[rametindallas]

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

I'm sorry, but are you really saying you don't care what hitler did?

Don't care at all, nor do I care what Genghis Khan, Slobodan Milosevic, Stalin, the Japanese, the IRA, Pol Pot, et al did.

It's in the past, forgive and forget.

DO you actually comprehend the amount of people killed? tortured and starved to death?

Let me guess if it did not affect you personally, you could not care less

Some people are incapable of empathy. They have no capacity to feel the suffering they or others cause.

[angiud]

A bad joke on Holocaust deleted. Some more posts borderline to be deleted because offensive, aggressive, flaming, etc.

So folks, behave due to the 'hot' topic, or we'll close the thread.

[Skytrain2hell]

Granted, I only read the first of 5 pages here, but why is no one really offended by this?

Don't get me wrong, I understand Thailand. I can actually say with a straight face that I understand about 80% of Thai culture (speak, read the language, been here for 10 years, married with kids, etc.), but at some point you have to throw your hands up and (lose face,) get upset.

Have you all lost your minds or you just don't give a sh*t anymore?

[aTomsLife]

To close the topic we ought to have a topic on this subject---Is it sick or not to name the shop Hitler ??? just a vote of posters would give us a real per cent. I suggest Sick would win easily.

All this u-boat/pearl harbour/war camps---most are aware of it all, without arguing.

I don't want to extend this theme too far but I disagree, I believe far too many posters are not "aware of it all", otherwise we wouldn't be having such an empassioned debate, one only has to look at some of the things being posted to see that is true.

right another perspective who is offended by this then..hands up ?

http://chairman-maos-chicken.xanga.com/

It's in poor taste, yes. Now please answer the question I posed to you in post #46. Does this offend you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZVk21Pco-c

If images of mass murders are acceptable, where do you draw the line?

Edited July 5, 2013 by aTomsLife

[Bluespunk]

Granted, I only read the first of 5 pages here, but why is no one really offended by this?

Don't get me wrong, I understand Thailand. I can actually say with a straight face that I understand about 80% of Thai culture (speak, read the language, been here for 10 years, married with kids, etc.), but at some point you have to throw your hands up and (lose face,) get upset.

Have you all lost your minds or you just don't give a sh*t anymore?

I think if you read again, you'll find a lot of people have been offended by this marketing ploy.

[rametindallas]

Bluespunk, Chiang Mai

Guy's it's Friday night, it's just a thread about some frakking cartoon picture of Col Saunders with Hitlers head on it selling fried chicken. It's not a thread about Global history lessons and the slaughter of millions. Thai kids probably know as much about Hitler as Vicky Pollard knows about the history of Siam, and the only thing most middle age Brits know about the History of Siam is it had something to do with Yul Brynner and Deborah Kerr. Don't they have a happy hour near where you live?

GJ can't let comments on genocide being something to forgive and forget. That sort of thinking sickens me and would ruin my happy hour(s) if I left it unchallenged. Sorry but that's the way it is.

Do you eat pizzza ?....if you do then you must have forgiven the Roman's for the genocide they caused....if your so senstive about genocide..would would eat a burger called an "atomic burger", 250,000 killed using this weapon of mass destruction.in Japan..

Mankind is a nasty species and genocide has been going on since the beginning of human kind and will continue to do so until mankind is wiped off the plant...

Greeks, Roman, Persian's in the past, Hitler/Stalin etc in the 20th century....furture ???...who know...all we don know is that it will happen again

You sound like the Red Shirts, "The Democrats did it too". Since it is clear you don't understand, I will explain it to you. I will even type slowly.

Hitler and Stalin took genocide to 'industrial levels not seen before in human history. Pizzas, and expressions of 'like a bullet' 'it's the bomb' or 'atomic burger' are not directly linked to mass killing the same way the likeness of A. Hitler is. When you can 'put a face on evil' and then use it as a symbol to promote a commercial enterprise, you are offending all the victims and their descendants.

If, after this explanation, you still cannot see why this is so offensive to so many people, maybe you, too, have a deficit of empathy.

[lovetotravel]

I don't like the idea of this restaurant. You should never forget the past. You should learn from it. And promoting this nut job in anyway is not good.

I'm hoping it's they just don't really understand history. It's kinda like the Che Guevara t-shirts the teens wear. They have no idea who this person really was. Just something neat to wear.

[aTomsLife]

If a cafe called Uncle Joe's opened with a pic of Stalin it would not raise an eyebrow. Luckily the Thais have not been infected with the Western guilt that the Zionists like to inflict, so they can get away with their own genocide in Palestine.

Wouldn't raise an eyebrow? I'm guessing if Uncle Joe's opened in Pattaya at the very least a few Russians might have something to say about it.

Thais protested in Germany over an image of Buddha just last week, so guilt or no, they've got their lines drawn in the sand too.

As for Palestine, off topic, but many, many nations and their citizens are aghast at what Israel is doing there.

[rgs2001uk]

Granted, I only read the first of 5 pages here, but why is no one really offended by this?

Don't get me wrong, I understand Thailand. I can actually say with a straight face that I understand about 80% of Thai culture (speak, read the language, been here for 10 years, married with kids, etc.), but at some point you have to throw your hands up and (lose face,) get upset.

Have you all lost your minds or you just don't give a sh*t anymore?

Have you all lost your minds or you just don't give a sh*t anymore?

Too be perfectly honest, I dont think I ever gave a sh*t in the first place.

If people choose to get upset about it, up to them.

This doesnt offend me in the least, what does offend me are the PC brigade telling me what I should and shouldnt think, the same brigade who claim to be offended by this but who reality are acting in the exact same manner as the facists they claim offends them.

[lee b]

Crazy

[Steely Dan]

I should be offended, but as an iconoclast I find myself smirking. I would observe that the plausible deniability that Thais have virtue of being civilization's bumpkins with no awareness of world history allows them more slack than other nationalities might receive. I trust however a univeral ISO standard for being thick skinned will apply to all in future, whether on the giving or receiving end.

[hard124get]

If a cafe called Uncle Joe's opened with a pic of Stalin it would not raise an eyebrow. Luckily the Thais have not been infected with the Western guilt that the Zionists like to inflict, so they can get away with their own genocide in Palestine.

It is not "Zionist guilt" or Zionist anything to be appalled by the holocaust or any genocide. As for going into a cafe with stalins image promoting it, no I wouldn't. The man was evil.

This article is from the Daily Mail. There is an article about the Holocaust in that paper every week without fail ! Why?

[manarak]

I should be offended, but as an iconoclast I find myself smirking. I would observe that the plausible deniability that Thais have virtue of being civilization's bumpkins with no awareness of world history allows them more slack than other nationalities might receive. I trust however a univeral ISO standard for being thick skinned will apply to all in future, whether on the giving or receiving end.

+1 like from a liberal :-)

[tingtongfarang]

I too spent my early childhood playing on bomb sites from ww2 and had family members who fought including my father,

Still i feel many posters here who feel offended by this type of thoughtless marketing ploy seem to forget this is not a country where logic prevails, dont expect that to change anytime soon.

[Bluespunk]

If a cafe called Uncle Joe's opened with a pic of Stalin it would not raise an eyebrow. Luckily the Thais have not been infected with the Western guilt that the Zionists like to inflict, so they can get away with their own genocide in Palestine.

It is not "Zionist guilt" or Zionist anything to be appalled by the holocaust or any genocide. As for going into a cafe with stalins image promoting it, no I wouldn't. The man was evil.

This article is from the Daily Mail. There is an article about the Holocaust in that paper every week without fail ! Why?

Don't read that right wing rag so can't say. Why not write and ask them.

P.S. I assume you're not suggesting some sort of religious conspiracy/cabal bs.

[Exsexyman]

If a cafe called Uncle Joe's opened with a pic of Stalin it would not raise an eyebrow. Luckily the Thais have not been infected with the Western guilt that the Zionists like to inflict, so they can get away with their own genocide in Palestine.

It is not "Zionist guilt" or Zionist anything to be appalled by the holocaust or any genocide. As for going into a cafe with stalins image promoting it, no I wouldn't. The man was evil.

This article is from the Daily Mail. There is an article about the Holocaust in that paper every week without fail ! Why?

Maybe guilt complex. The Daily Mail and their proprietors were active cheerleaders for Hitler and the Nazi Party in the 1930s. As were prominent members of the British Royal family, including the late Queen Mother, (Gawd bless her)!