Brand new coilovers angle grinded!

[dogpoo]

What to do? my brand new coilovers have been subjected to an angle grinder in there efforts to make the front wheels fit, the front left tire has had a large amount of rubber worn away due to it touching the coilover, I think a new tire will be needed, I am obviously not happy, I have complained, I doubt very much they will replace the coilovers, the tire maybe, problems!!!

[kartman]

1 Complain and hope they rectify it ....done

2 refit standard shocks

3 go somewhere else and start again

[dogpoo]

1 Complain and hope they rectify it ....done

2 refit standard shocks

3 go somewhere else and start again

I have complained, I dont want to fit the standard shocks as the coilovers have cost a lot of money, I don't want to start again, I have gone as far as I want to with this car! if they replace the tire and re tidy the fitting problem do I just accept the angle grinded coilovers?

[dogpoo]

1 Complain and hope they rectify it ....done

2 refit standard shocks

3 go somewhere else and start again

I have complained, I dont want to fit the standard shocks as the coilovers have cost a lot of money, I don't want to start again, I have gone as far as I want to with this car! if they replace the tire and re tidy the fitting problem do I just accept the angle grinded coilovers?

I am taking the car back this morning and see what's what!

[hansgruber]

I wouldnt drive on the coilover.

It's structural integrity could be compromised. What part was grinded? The mount at the top of the coilover?

[dogpoo]

I wouldnt drive on the coilover.

It's structural integrity could be compromised. What part was grinded? The mount at the top of the coilover?

They have angle grinded the part which sits next to the tire, rhe adjusting collars I think,I don't think the working of the coilover has been affected!! I am not an engineer so I am only guessing.

[dogpoo]

I wouldnt drive on the coilover.

It's structural integrity could be compromised. What part was grinded? The mount at the top of the coilover?

They have angle grinded the part which sits next to the tire, rhe adjusting collars I think,I don't think the working of the coilover has been affected!! I am not an engineer so I am only guessing.

I haven't checked the right side, the right side is fine, I haven't looked to see if they have used the angle grinder on that!

[dogpoo]

I wouldnt drive on the coilover.

It's structural integrity could be compromised. What part was grinded? The mount at the top of the coilover?

They have angle grinded the part which sits next to the tire, rhe adjusting collars I think,I don't think the working of the coilover has been affected!! I am not an engineer so I am only guessing.

I haven't checked the right side, the right side is fine, I haven't looked to see if they have used the angle grinder on that!

As there is quite a deep trench of missing rubber from the side wall of the left tire that will I am sure need to be replaced.

[dogpoo]

I wouldnt drive on the coilover.

It's structural integrity could be compromised. What part was grinded? The mount at the top of the coilover?

They have angle grinded the part which sits next to the tire, rhe adjusting collars I think,I don't think the working of the coilover has been affected!! I am not an engineer so I am only guessing.

I haven't checked the right side, the right side is fine, I haven't looked to see if they have used the angle grinder on that!

As there is quite a deep trench of missing rubber from the side wall of the left tire that will I am sure need to be replaced.

Bloody cars!!

[hansgruber]

I wouldnt drive on the coilover.

It's structural integrity could be compromised. What part was grinded? The mount at the top of the coilover?

They have angle grinded the part which sits next to the tire, rhe adjusting collars I think,I don't think the working of the coilover has been affected!! I am not an engineer so I am only guessing.

Can you provide a pic?

I would never drive on it as the coilover is built to a certain tolerance, somchai grinding its structure away can't be good. It's a major suspension component. Don't risk your life.

I would demand a replacement coilover, they have insurance. Hopefully.

[dogpoo]

I wouldnt drive on the coilover.

It's structural integrity could be compromised. What part was grinded? The mount at the top of the coilover?

They have angle grinded the part which sits next to the tire, rhe adjusting collars I think,I don't think the working of the coilover has been affected!! I am not an engineer so I am only guessing.

Can you provide a pic?

I would never drive on it as the coilover is built to a certain tolerance, somchai grinding its structure away can't be good. It's a major suspension component. Don't risk your life.

I would demand a replacement coilover, they have insurance. Hopefully.

Cheers mate, I will try to complain nicely and make it clear I am not happy driving on the modified coilover!

[IMHO]

What sort of racing car is it?

Coilovers generally have terrible ride quality on the road, so excuse me if my assumption is wrong

[dogpoo]

I wouldnt drive on the coilover.

It's structural integrity could be compromised. What part was grinded? The mount at the top of the coilover?

They have angle grinded the part which sits next to the tire, rhe adjusting collars I think,I don't think the working of the coilover has been affected!! I am not an engineer so I am only guessing.

Can you provide a pic?

I would never drive on it as the coilover is built to a certain tolerance, somchai grinding its structure away can't be good. It's a major suspension component. Don't risk your life.

I would demand a replacement coilover, they have insurance. Hopefully.

Cheers mate, I will try to complain nicely and make it clear I am not happy driving on the modified coilover!

I have now put the spare on, I should have taken a picture, the actual thread of the coilover has not been touched just the adjusting collars!

[dogpoo]

What sort of racing car is it?

Coilovers generally have terrible ride quality on the road, so excuse me if my assumption is wrong

It's not a racing car, I prefer stiff suspension! Horses for courses so to speak!

[kartman]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

[IMHO]

I have now put the spare on, I should have taken a picture, the actual thread of the coilover has not been touched just the adjusting collars!

All you need to think is: If that now weakened adjusting collar breaks, what happens? If you can give yourself a happy answer, no problem

[dogpoo]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

[Crossy]

For the safety of others go back to the standard suspension today.

Then start worrying what went wrong, one side OK the other not, why?

Hopefully the manufacturers of the coilovers will be able to supply replacement adjustment collars.

[dogpoo]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

[dogpoo]

For the safety of others go back to the standard suspension today.

Then start worrying what went wrong, one side OK the other not, why?

Hopefully the manufacturers of the coilovers will be able to supply replacement adjustment collars.

I meant there is no problem with the tire on the right, I have not seen the coilover so I do not know if they have used the angle grinder on that side, we will see later this morning.

[dogpoo]

For the safety of others go back to the standard suspension today.

Then start worrying what went wrong, one side OK the other not, why?

Hopefully the manufacturers of the coilovers will be able to supply replacement adjustment collars.

I meant there is no problem with the tire on the right, I have not seen the coilover so I do not know if they have used the angle grinder on that side, we will see later this morning.

Yes I will ask for be collars to be ordered and fitted, the car will not be used other than to go back to the shop then home!

[IMHO]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

[dogpoo]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

I would hope Manit Center Max would know if they were the correct wheels, no problem with the back or the front offside!!

[dogpoo]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

I would hope Manit Center Max would know if they were the correct wheels, no problem with the back or the front offside!!

At the shop now so I will post the outcome!!

[culicine]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

[dogpoo]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

The tires are 205x40x17 there is no problem with the tires rubbing the arches as the suspension is stiff, I should have mentioned that the rears have slight negative camber and are fine and look good, I wanted the fronts done, they said okay no problem, the front offside tire is fine, I did notice when I got home that there was more camber on the front near side, this is obviously the problem and the tire was up against the coilover causing loss of rubber, this can all be sorted out by using spacers, I asked them 3 times should spacers be used but they only said "you want" I should have said yes!!

[WarpSpeed]

They have angle grinded the part which sits next to the tire, rhe adjusting collars I think,I don't think the working of the coilover has been affected!! I am not an engineer so I am only guessing.

I haven't checked the right side, the right side is fine, I haven't looked to see if they have used the angle grinder on that!

As there is quite a deep trench of missing rubber from the side wall of the left tire that will I am sure need to be replaced.

Bloody cars!!

Bloody incompetent techs more like..

IMHO is spot on, sounds as if the offset is incorrect, probably RWD on FWD I don't know what type of car it is, I missed that somewhere. Or conversely the lower coil over adjuster is not properly positioned and dug into the tire side wall. At any rate incompetence at it's worst..

[WarpSpeed]

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

The tires are 205x40x17 there is no problem with the tires rubbing the arches as the suspension is stiff, I should have mentioned that the rears have slight negative camber and are fine and look good, I wanted the fronts done, they said okay no problem, the front offside tire is fine, I did notice when I got home that there was more camber on the front near side, this is obviously the problem and the tire was up against the coilover causing loss of rubber, this can all be sorted out by using spacers, I asked them 3 times should spacers be used but they only said "you want" I should have said yes!!

If spacers are required offset is not correct..Yes, you should have said chai krap.. Spacers can solve it now but shouldn't have been necessary if offset was compatible.. Spacers may now cause other issues like lugs being too short not giving enough safe thread bite, center caps not fitting properly, fender rubbing, etc..

[misterphil]

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

[misterphil]

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

The tires are 205x40x17 there is no problem with the tires rubbing the arches as the suspension is stiff, I should have mentioned that the rears have slight negative camber and are fine and look good, I wanted the fronts done, they said okay no problem, the front offside tire is fine, I did notice when I got home that there was more camber on the front near side, this is obviously the problem and the tire was up against the coilover causing loss of rubber, this can all be sorted out by using spacers, I asked them 3 times should spacers be used but they only said "you want" I should have said yes!!

NO, don't use spacers. You need your wheel alignment setting correctly, see my earlier post. Walk away and go somewhere else where they know what they are doing before they have you driving a death trap around.