Is there really buried TREASURE on Doi Suthep Mountain?

[OldChinaHam]

ORANG37, I like your patter:

"The gold of Doi Suthep may be guarded by other magical forces as well, as those of you who know the oral tradition story of how the Mon Queen Camadevi, of Haripunchai (circa 8th. CE), used menstrual-blood magic to render King Viranga (of the Lavo), unable to throw his spear from the top of the mountain into Haripunchai (what is now Lamphun); a task, at which, if he had succeeded, Queen C. would have "married" him."

But how long must one live in CM to not only learn all this, but believe it too?

The water buffalo, I would not sacrifice.

Culturally speaking, I prefer him standing in a rice field

With one of those white birds riding his back

Egrets

The beauty of the live water buffalo with the white bird is

The real treasure of Thailand

[Beetlejuice]

No treasure, but I bet if they searched hard enough, they would discover a few missing persons who have vanished over many years.

[puukao]

I notice the ad "Top 10 Metal Detectors". Classic. Anyhow, it might be true that there are demons 5,000 feet below wat doi suthep. If you want to bring them to the surface, ring bells 4,8, 9 and 3 on the next full moon. Of course, you must have passed the first test exactly 87 hours before.....eat 109 bowls of tom yum soup at the shop behind the sleeping buddah. Luckily for us, the demons speak English and Thai, and can be bribed via mango/banana shakes.

I believe I found some important coins/clues on the whereabouts of the treasure...

pictures to follow...

[Cuban]

I notice the ad "Top 10 Metal Detectors". Classic.

I only get adverts for Asian women from this web-site.

[orang37]

But how long must one live in CM to not only learn all this, but believe it too?

Sawasdee Khrup, Khun OldChinaHam,

Well, I think "mere learning," is just a matter of being interested, motivated, and reading, visiting Wats, and festivals, being curious, perhaps having the good fortune to seek out, or, by serendipity, make friends with educated Thais, and the few farangs, who have a sense of Lanna's ethnography, folklore, and cultural history, and, ask questions, and listen to what they have to say.

To "believe" ? That is a metaphysical question ! How long did it take Werner Heisenberg to reach the conclusion that "atoms are not things" ? Was that a statement of "belief," or "dis-belief" ?

Perhaps it is apropos to recall the words of Giordano Bruno:

“The beginning, middle, and end of the birth, growth, and perfection of whatever we behold is from contraries, by contraries, and to contraries; and whatever contrariety is, there is action and reaction, there is motion, diversity, multitude, and order, there are degrees, succession and vicissitude.”

Giordano Bruno, Dominican Friar, cosmologist, mathematician, philosopher, jailed for eight years at age forty-four by the Holy Inquisition; burned at the stake for heresy on February 17, 1600. When sentenced, he said to his Inquisitors: “Perhaps you pronounce this sentence against me with greater fear than I receive it.”

The macrocosmic universe of collective archetypal myth recursively embodied in the individual's microcosm of (from a western cultural point of view) an "unconscious," experienced through a glass darkly in dreams, in waking fantasies, in slips of the tongue, in catching ourselves in the act of selective mis-perceptions of what the eyes see, and the ears hear ...

What is "belief" except a poor orphan, dying of winter-cold, outside a magnificent mansion brilliantly lit with candle-light, inside which elegant guests, in their richest finery, dine on rich foods, to the sounds of exquisite music ?

Of course I speak of what I don't know, and can only dimly relate, from the indirect communication with the Orangutan soul and mind within me, and, as I dismally mis-understand it, that is, itself, a subjective description by Him of the teachings of the great spiritual teacher Ur Orang of the exoteric aspects of "The Path of Slack:" that exoteric content being, of course, a metaphor, for the esoteric direct inner experience of certain mental states, which cannot be described, in language, at all, except by paradoxical conundrums of the form: "no peel, no banana."

But, I agree with you: to sense, for a moment, the beauty of white-bird on water-buffalo: that is more than enough.

~o:37;

[OldChinaHam]

ORANG37: "make friends with educated Thais"

Yes, I do agree.

I would enjoy just listening to educated Thais talk about interesting Thai or general topics, anytime.

I will try to search out good opportunities that can afford this.

But one major hurdle for me is my lack of proficiency in Thai.

I am afraid my Thai will never be up to the challenge of discussing topics of interest to me at the level of interest to me, in Thai. English would not be a problem, but what real hope might there be for that.

Even in Chinese, it is always possible to reach a level where I finally somewhat hit a language barrier. Just try listening to a lecture in Anthropology in Chinese at university, for example.

But yes, I look forward to some mind stimulating, scintillating talk with Thais, the sooner the better

Preferably at the university

Preferably an interesting topic

To me, that would really be worth a treasure,

I am getting too old to believe I can take other treasures with me when I kick the bucket

[chuang]

No more there, I have already found it....

[heybruce]

I wonder if this has anything to do with the story?

http://ww.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/652372-400-year-old-ornaments-found-in-chiang-rai/?utm_source=newsletter-20130709-1518&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

I suspect that the long and sometimes turbulent history of what is now northern Thailand has resulted in a few small stashes of treasure buried here and there, and some of them may still be out there. However any maps or memories of them are long gone, and finding treasure by randomly digging in Doi Suthep is a longshot.

[hellodolly]

I wonder if this has anything to do with the story?

http://ww.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/652372-400-year-old-ornaments-found-in-chiang-rai/?utm_source=newsletter-20130709-1518&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

I suspect that the long and sometimes turbulent history of what is now northern Thailand has resulted in a few small stashes of treasure buried here and there, and some of them may still be out there. However any maps or memories of them are long gone, and finding treasure by randomly digging in Doi Suthep is a longshot.

The server like the treasure can not be found my computer tells me.

BUT

I suspect you are right about hidden treasures from those turbulent times. I believe some one in Chiang Rai just found 400 year old pieces of jewelery and coin.

[KRS1]

Many many many years ago in Ayuddhya, someone stumbled upon an old Chedi that had the gold from a past King inside.

The man who found it was found wondering down the road with a gold sword and had become insane.

[orang37]

I believe some one in Chiang Rai just found 400 year old pieces of jewelery and coin.

Sawasdee Khrup, Khun HelloDolly,

Indeed, 'twas in the Chiang Saen area: http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/newsen/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNART5607090010001

~o:37;

[Chicog]

It's actually inside Chiang Dao, in the bit they don't let you go into....

[Cnxforever]

.......if there is a treasure it is probably hidden near a temple. During enemy invasions valuable items where often buried to hide them from the invadors.

I can just see now thousands of people invading the area around Doi Suthep temple with shovels digging holes all over!

[puukao]

I will conduct an archeological dig to only the greatest treasure hunters!!! 400,000 baht, which is a steal!!

note: no guarantees we find anything, no refunds.

un/fortunately, we must conduct a sacrifice first. bring 10 attractive females, dressed only in a bikini. they will dance to Justin bieber music, which should attract the demons protecting the treasure. well, get them extremely mad at least. that music is horrible.

anyhow......remember to sell silver (the commodity that trades on the exchange) now, since when we find the 110 tons of silver coins, prices should fall. it will be the greatest find in the history of CM!!!!

we will get free visa extensions for one year!!!

[Rinrada]

No treasure in Doi S but there appears to be a lot of evidence that during the war (the one that Thailand was not invaded in )the Japanese raided the Chinese Banks ...Shanghai etc and moved all the booty down to Thailand but when the war started going against them they buried it in the jungle near Kanchenaburi....so jump on a bus.... head down there and...start looking..chok dee