SinglePot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23328074 Latest update from the British Broadcasting Corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 funny thing though what he said in his email. 'Many ordinary Americans are getting increasingly concerned about Obama's invasion into their lives'. Wasn't expecting to hear that. Maybe some of this dissatisfaction is about a troubled USA which goes beyond the Snowden thing? (PS. My brother is as straight as a dye. that's why he does what he does. Class act.) Your brother sounds like a bright and observant man. Maybe you should make some room in your reasoning for what he's telling you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 funny thing though what he said in his email. 'Many ordinary Americans are getting increasingly concerned about Obama's invasion into their lives'. Wasn't expecting to hear that. Maybe some of this dissatisfaction is about a troubled USA which goes beyond the Snowden thing? (PS. My brother is as straight as a dye. that's why he does what he does. Class act.) Dont worry, one terrorist incident will swing those people around. Wishful thinking? If you're not just making a joke in poor taste, then I'd say you've lost your perspective: http://thinkbynumbers.org/anti-terrorism-spending-disproportionate-to-threat/ Being struck by a terrorist doesn't figure into the top 100 things I worry about in any given day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 funny thing though what he said in his email. 'Many ordinary Americans are getting increasingly concerned about Obama's invasion into their lives'. Wasn't expecting to hear that. Maybe some of this dissatisfaction is about a troubled USA which goes beyond the Snowden thing? (PS. My brother is as straight as a dye. that's why he does what he does. Class act.) Dont worry, one terrorist incident will swing those people around. Wishful thinking? If you're not just making a joke in poor taste, then I'd say you've lost your perspective: http://thinkbynumbers.org/anti-terrorism-spending-disproportionate-to-threat/ Being struck by a terrorist doesn't figure into the top 100 things I worry about in any given day. Point taken. However the figures would be very different if you didn't have to go through security checks at every airport in every country in the world. I wouldn't fancy getting on any plane where there's no security, would you? Pan Am Flight 103 cost the world a lot of money,.... apart from the disgraceful loss of life to innocent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 funny thing though what he said in his email. 'Many ordinary Americans are getting increasingly concerned about Obama's invasion into their lives'. Wasn't expecting to hear that. Maybe some of this dissatisfaction is about a troubled USA which goes beyond the Snowden thing? (PS. My brother is as straight as a dye. that's why he does what he does. Class act.) Dont worry, one terrorist incident will swing those people around. On an asylum matter, I just read this article Kremlin says decision on asylum for Snowden not up to Putin Link to article If you believe that, Let me sell you a bridge, CHEAP I am seeing more of an airport lobby in Snowden's future. Must suck to be him about now. Single Pot. Yes, I am afraid it goes much deeper than Snowden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I thought it might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 UPDATE:Russia may naturalize Snowden - Migration Service Council headMOSCOW: -- Former CIA employee Edward Snowden may become a Russian citizen if he wishes to do so, Federal Migration Service (FMS) Public Council head Vladimir Volokh said."He may apply for Russian citizenship after he obtains temporary asylum and refugee status. Snowden will qualify for a shorter naturalization period in a refugee capacity; if I am not mistaken this period is three years," said Volokh, former deputy head of the Federal Migration Service.He also said that Snowden could not be extradited to the United States because he had officially applied for temporary asylum."International conventions signed by Russia and other legal documents prohibit the transfer of a foreign citizen to a country in which he may be in danger," the Public Council head remarked."In addition, Snowden qualifies for international protection. The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) should assist in this procedure," he said.Full story: http://english.ruvr.ru/news/2013_07_17/Russia-may-naturalize-Snowden-Migration-Service-Council-head-3763/-- THE VOICE OF RUSSIA 2013-07-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scapegoat Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 UPDATE: Russia may naturalize Snowden - Migration Service Council head MOSCOW: -- Former CIA employee Edward Snowden may become a Russian citizen if he wishes to do so, Federal Migration Service (FMS) Public Council head Vladimir Volokh said That will be a huge relief to Snowden. Russian governments are notoriously lenient on citizens who reveal state secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Snowden needs to stop letting these Wikileaks folk manipulate him, it's obvious he is loathed by many in the US. If he really wants to get back in their good books, he needs to go and shoot a black kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 not interested really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblether Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Oh Chicog, you bad boy The Russians are just trying to annoy the US now, basically they're trolling the White House. If the White House would like some advice on how to handle trolls I'll do it for a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I hope he wont find Russian winters that long .... its very hard to live in Moscow if you dont have enough money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachiket Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I hope he wont find Russian winters that long .... its very hard to live in Moscow if you dont have enough money. He already survived in Russia on asylum, surely he will survive in winters indeed on govt. aids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I wonder where the constitutional rights he says he is fighting for will get him in Russia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealth Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Snowden may leave Moscow airport within few days - lawyer MOSCOW. July 17 (Interfax) - Former CIA employee Edward Snowden may leave the transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport within the next few days, lawyer Anatoly Kucherena, who has been providing legal advice to Snowden, told Interfax on Wednesday. "The granting of temporary asylum to him will take no longer than one week. I think he will be able to leave Sheremetyevo's transit zone within the next few days," Kucherena said. va cm (Our editorial staff can be reached at [email protected]) http://interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=430983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Wife stuck in Moscow right now and friend's husband she is staying with in Moscow works for government. Apparently, he was jokingly saying Putin has clamps on Snowden's communication and ability to go anywhere. Putin was supposedly to meet with John Kerry recently and he made Kerry wait over 3 hours in a small room for the meeting purely to show his disrespect for Kerry and the US. Ultimate shun and Putin at the moment has absolute contempt for US. Nice. Nah, Putin would not use Snowden to extract and gain access to whatever information he has and tell US whatever he wants us to hear. He jacked Kerry around to his face . . . Long story short, Snowden apparently ain't going no where until Putin says so and this may be why other countries are acting so wishy washy about asylum process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) interesting to hear this. China has absolute contempt for the US too. Maybe nothing's changed since the Cold War apart from the Russians and Chinese finding some money. the Chinese Dream is at the expense of the American Dream. Don't know too much about the USSR apart from the fact they used to be communist and now they are nouveau riche. Obama's got a handful. Edited July 17, 2013 by SinglePot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 interesting to hear this. China has absolute contempt for the US too. Maybe nothing's changed since the Cold War apart from the Russians and Chinese finding some money. the Chinese Dream is at the expense of the American Dream. Don't know too much about the USSR apart from the fact they used to be communist and now they are nouveau riche. Obama's got a handful. I was a bit surprised, especially by the slap in the face to Kerry who is effectively an extension of Bama. Reflect real weakness on US and anyone with balls (such as Putin had tables been turned) would have left after 15 minutes. Same with asylum game and Snowden sitting in Russia with US spy intel, Putin will be defiant and play games with US and Snowden's asylum efforts just because can. Putin knows he is dealing with a spineless regime and he is a former KGB spy with a brawler mentality. The KGB mentality will exploit poor Snowden and he will continue to play games with US administration about Asylum, information possessed by Snowden and where Snowden is. Doubt he has been at airport this entire time (no one saw him there) and everything Snowden does or says at this point will be filtered, controlled by and approved by Putin. Putin apparently dictating Snowden's movement, asylum requests and information to shun Bama who takes it like a b**ch, says nothing, does nothing and will do nothing . . . except focus resources on on stuff like Zimmerman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I don't know about Russia but I'll tell you what I know about China. They see the US as weak. All this democracy nonsense. They are a dictatorship. Bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Wife stuck in Moscow right now and friend's husband she is staying with in Moscow works for government. Apparently, he was jokingly saying Putin has clamps on Snowden's communication and ability to go anywhere. Putin was supposedly to meet with John Kerry recently and he made Kerry wait over 3 hours in a small room for the meeting purely to show his disrespect for Kerry and the US. Ultimate shun and Putin at the moment has absolute contempt for US. Nice. Nah, Putin would not use Snowden to extract and gain access to whatever information he has and tell US whatever he wants us to hear. He jacked Kerry around to his face . . . Long story short, Snowden apparently ain't going no where until Putin says so and this may be why other countries are acting so wishy washy about asylum process. LOL. Does the US government often discuss the Snowden affair with your wife ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 As I said when this whole Snowden thing started: All the time the US is getting its knickers in a twist, the enemy are laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I don't know about Russia but I'll tell you what I know about China. They see the US as weak. All this democracy nonsense. They are a dictatorship. Bullies. Don't know much about China except economically, but I am learning much about Russia being married to one and with many friends from there. Different mentality and very hardened approach to everything. US is all about finesse. Russian is in your face with no excuses for its actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Wife stuck in Moscow right now and friend's husband she is staying with in Moscow works for government. Apparently, he was jokingly saying Putin has clamps on Snowden's communication and ability to go anywhere. Putin was supposedly to meet with John Kerry recently and he made Kerry wait over 3 hours in a small room for the meeting purely to show his disrespect for Kerry and the US. Ultimate shun and Putin at the moment has absolute contempt for US. Nice. Nah, Putin would not use Snowden to extract and gain access to whatever information he has and tell US whatever he wants us to hear. He jacked Kerry around to his face . . . Long story short, Snowden apparently ain't going no where until Putin says so and this may be why other countries are acting so wishy washy about asylum process. LOL. Does the US government often discuss the Snowden affair with your wife ? People on the ground can sometimes see much more clearly than the politicians jbrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I don't know about Russia but I'll tell you what I know about China. They see the US as weak. All this democracy nonsense. They are a dictatorship. Bullies. Don't know much about China except economically, but I am learning much about Russia being married to one and with many friends from there. Different mentality and very hardened approach to everything. US is all about finesse. Russian is in your face with no excuses for its actions. Sounds just like my experience in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) I don't know about Russia but I'll tell you what I know about China. They see the US as weak. All this democracy nonsense. They are a dictatorship. Bullies. Well more of an oligarchy really. Perhaps if the US want to tickle Putin's tits they should start leaking information about his personal wealth and where it has come from.... Edited July 17, 2013 by Chicog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Wife stuck in Moscow right now and friend's husband she is staying with in Moscow works for government. Apparently, he was jokingly saying Putin has clamps on Snowden's communication and ability to go anywhere. Putin was supposedly to meet with John Kerry recently and he made Kerry wait over 3 hours in a small room for the meeting purely to show his disrespect for Kerry and the US. Ultimate shun and Putin at the moment has absolute contempt for US. Nice. Nah, Putin would not use Snowden to extract and gain access to whatever information he has and tell US whatever he wants us to hear. He jacked Kerry around to his face . . . Long story short, Snowden apparently ain't going no where until Putin says so and this may be why other countries are acting so wishy washy about asylum process. LOL. Does the US government often discuss the Snowden affair with your wife ? Nonsensical question. Wife is in Russia. She is Russian. Her friend is married to government employee and is from her town in Sibera so they are Russian. Read what I wrote. He was joking about Russia screwing with Snowden and Kerry. Had nothing to do with US government. Just Googled and found this about Kerry being made to wait 3 hours by Putin so what he was saying appears to be corroborated to some extent. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-putin-unhelpful-syria-because-cold-war_722583.html Now if you think I am making this up for my own amusement, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I don't know about Russia but I'll tell you what I know about China. They see the US as weak. All this democracy nonsense. They are a dictatorship. Bullies. Well more of an oligarchy really. Perhaps if the US want to tickle Putin's tits they should start leaking information about his personal wealth and where it has come from.... Russians already know that . . . Some care and some don't care. Much like partisan politics here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamhar Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Point, and counter point. Predictable. The question is where will it lead from here? Should U.S. Boycott Russian Olympics Over Snowden?http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/07/should-u-s-boycott-russian-olympics-over-snowden/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Point, and counter point. Predictable. The question is where will it lead from here? Should U.S. Boycott Russian Olympics Over Snowden? http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/07/should-u-s-boycott-russian-olympics-over-snowden/ No. Makes us look weak and childish. Kind of like a resentment, hurts us more than them. Also hurts our athletes devoting their lives to training and living their dreams more than Russia. Russia will just get more medals and know that they got to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Let's try to keep this thread about Snowden's search for a home and things directly related to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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