Translation Help: One Word Please

[BKKGuitar]

hi-- i learned to read a couple months ago and am starting to pick up some speed... i'm working my way through a short Thai "romance novel" type pocketbook, B12 at Big C. Using the small Becker dictionary.

One word that appears a lot is "reuh seuk" (sorry, not sure about the transliteration and i don't have Thai fonts). "reuh", high tone, as in "know, familiar with", and "seuk/syk/?", low tone, by itself is listed in Becker as "disrobe". The two bits always appear together.

Thanks in advance for any help, peops!

[Rikker]

What you're seeing is probably รู้สึก, which means "feel". They two parts to it always appear together because it's a single word. It likely has some historical connection to the verb รู้, but the สึก part doesn't have anything to do with disrobing that I know of.

[BKKGuitar]

What you're seeing is probably รู้สึก, which means "feel". They two parts to it always appear together because it's a single word. It likely has some historical connection to the verb รู้, but the สึก part doesn't have anything to do with disrobing that I know of.

Fits perfectly, thanks much for the help!

(Now i'm inspired to get those Thai fonts installed.... here goes.......!)

[Neeranam]

And of course "kwam ruuseuk" means feeling.

[Richard W]

What you're seeing is probably รู้สึก, which means "feel". They two parts to it always appear together because it's a single word. It likely has some historical connection to the verb รู้, but the สึก part doesn't have anything to do with disrobing that I know of.

Perhaps a general connection to 'erode', in the sense of letting barriers crumble?

[Rikker]

It's a good question. The online RID '82 gives this definition of สึก:

คำ : สึก ๓

เสียง : สึก

คำตั้ง : สึก ๓

ชนิด : น.

ที่ใช้ :

ที่มา :

นิยาม : การรู้ตัว, การระลึกได้, การจำได้, มักใช้ควบกับคำ รู้ เป็น รู้สึก และแผลงว่า สำนึก ก็มี.

But I have a suspicion that this meaning is derived from รู้สึก, rather than the other way around. But the connection to สำนึก is one I had never noticed, and is perhaps evidence that สึก was once used more widely than just รู้สึก. It appears to have suffered the same fate as รู้จัก, which has a similar (nowadays) unanalyzable second syllable. Manomaivibool, Prapin (2000) suggests the origin of จัก in รู้ิจัก from Middle Chinese *sjek "know, recognize," which seems entirely possible. Do any other dictionaries give origins for สึก? I'll have to look into it further.

Edited April 7, 2006 by Rikker