webfact Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Court accepts case against ex-monk for violating girl under 13The NationBANGKOK: -- A woman believed to have mothered Wirapol Sukpol's child when she was under-age yesterday filed a complaint against the former monk, accusing him of statutory rape and restraining her freedom, and demanded Bt100 million in civil compensation from him.Of the Bt100 million, Bt70 million is being demanded by the unnamed woman, who is now 26, and Bt30 million by her grandmother who took care of her and her son. The child allegedly fathered by Wirapol, aka Luang Pu Nenkham, is now 11 years old. Wirapol is now on the run in the US after being wanted for several offences, mostly involving fraud and embezzlement.The statutory rape case filed by the woman cites sexual violation of a girl under 13, which carries heavier penalties than the case pursued by the Department of Special Investigation, in which Wirapol is accused of sexually violating a girl under 15.The Ubon Ratchathani court has accepted the complaint and set a preliminary hearing on September 2. Somchart Wongtharathorn, the woman's lawyer, said he was awaiting a DNA-based maternity test to support the complaint, while the test on Wirapol had not yet been possible, as he has absconded and his parents were no cooperating.Meanwhile, the provincial monastic office in Ubon Ratchathani has ruled that all monks residing in Wirapol's Wat Pa Khanti Dhamma monastery must leave before the Buddhist Lent begins on Tuesday.Separately, the Anti Money-laundering Office said it had seized additionally Wirapol's assets worth more than Bt60 million, mostly vehicles and land plots believed to have been bought with money donated on charitable purposes.The controversy surrounding the former monk has been covered extensively by Thai media, and foreign media like the Japan-based NHK and US-based CNN have also picked it up. The coverage by both the foreign networks is being translated into Thai and is being widely ridiculed on social media.A local and special police task force in Ubon Ratchathani yesterday handed over a 668-page investigation report to the DSI, which has taken over the case. The DSI is planning to look into other possible wrongdoings of the former monk, such as soliciting money from donors in exchange for royal decorations, said Pol Colonel Prasobchocke Phrommool, a senior investigator in charge of the case.-- The Nation 2013-07-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 While this may seem to be good news, remember that he can't be charged unless in Thailand to hear the charges read, and then can't be extradited to face those charges. Of course, that could be changed with legislation, but given PTP's leader's current circumstances, I doubt that will happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post reiltin Posted July 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2013 Granny wants 30M for taking care of her.She presented the child to be abused regularly by a thieving Kiddy fiddler.What kind of religious instruction for a 12 year old continues till 4am.(when the monk would return her to granny after he was done with her) Suffer little children to be born to such as these. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 While this may seem to be good news, remember that he can't be charged unless in Thailand to hear the charges read, and then can't be extradited to face those charges. Of course, that could be changed with legislation, but given PTP's leader's current circumstances, I doubt that will happen. Thanks for that as I'm not too well up in Thai law. In other jurisdictions he could be brought back to face charges and the fact of being wanted is enough providing there's evidence to support the charges that will be laid when the suspect appears in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted July 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2013 Granny wants 30M for taking care of her.She presented the child to be abused regularly by a thieving Kiddy fiddler.What kind of religious instruction for a 12 year old continues till 4am.(when the monk would return her to granny after he was done with her) Suffer little children to be born to such as these. As i understand it Buddhism teaches non-materialism, especially for monks, but the average Thai is nothing but. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 If I were the mother, I'd have filed a suit against the monk for 70 million and another against the grandmother for 30 million, because it was the latter who willingly and deliberately farmed her granddaughter out to the monk. According to media reports the grandmother even complained that the monk never compensated her for pimping her granddaughter. Those comments alone not only show intent to commit a fellacy in exchange for financial gain, but also suggest that she was fully aware of the situation and proceeded nevertheless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OzMick Posted July 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) If I were the mother, I'd have filed a suit against the monk for 70 million and another against the grandmother for 30 million, because it was the latter who willingly and deliberately farmed her granddaughter out to the monk. According to media reports the grandmother even complained that the monk never compensated her for pimping her granddaughter. Those comments alone not only show intent to commit a fellacy in exchange for financial gain, but also suggest that she was fully aware of the situation and proceeded nevertheless. Not sure what a "fellacy" is, but it sounds like something you don't want to do with under-age girls. Edited July 20, 2013 by OzMick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Lock the granny and the monk in the same cell and distribute his assets amongst all the piss poor but usually more genuine temples in rural Thailand that are trying to raise and educate kids that have been dumped on them…..is there no case being brought against the old hag…why not? Edited July 20, 2013 by lemonjelly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DocN Posted July 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2013 Well...if understand correctly, the woman is 26 and filing charges now. Okay, so...why now? What happened until now? Don't get me wrong- she should file, but I get the feeling, this is not about "child support", but pure greed! And granny should get money, too? For whoring her out to the "holy man" at the age of 12? The only thing granny would get from me, is a nice little time in jail! ...just sayin'! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETatBKK Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 this news is getting sick, very sick . . . this guy is not only greedy, these were sexual offences ! it was 15, and now 13, please don't bring another number ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlandy Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Granny wants 30M for taking care of her.She presented the child to be abused regularly by a thieving Kiddy fiddler.What kind of religious instruction for a 12 year old continues till 4am.(when the monk would return her to granny after he was done with her) Suffer little children to be born to such as these. But just remember (and never forget) TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 GREAT but fat lot of good it will do since he is not in Thailand So easy to lay on so many more charges To bad the powers that e will not request he be brought back to face justice Guess to many rich big names wold come out if he came back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 That dude is gone - he took his ill-gotten gains and is sunning himself on a beach in a non-extradition country. Will never be brought back here. Just smoke to distract from the rice scheme abortion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Member Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 GREAT but fat lot of good it will do since he is not in Thailand So easy to lay on so many more charges To bad the powers that e will not request he be brought back to face justice Guess to many rich big names wold come out if he came back Despite allthe stupidity and incompetence we are so used to it's hard to think anything other that the DSI and a whole host of government departments haven't put the brakes on. If they stopped talking about seizing assets that are long done and playing pass the parcel over the passport issue this could be well on its way to being resolved. I believe the US has been asked to cancel his visa but even if that happens the Americans can't direct where he goes next just simply tell him to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonobo Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I'm not sure about the legal ramifications in the US, but if I was in charge, I would try every legal method to get him out of the US and hopefully back to Thailand, even if he cannot be formally charged until he is back on Thai soil. I know this guy can be tried in the US for pedophilia as for this crime, the act does not have to be done on US soil, but it would be better for all hands if the guy was tried in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi41 Posted July 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2013 You just have to love when greedy Thai bloodsuckers come out of the woodworks! The alleged victim is getting younger and younger, the amount is getting higher and higher?? And the old pimp want to be rewarded her her good deeds! The DNA test should be ready a long time ago, but not a word about the result. Maybe not the result DSI wanted? Time to take DNA swops from the teacher, villagechief or the local BIB?? (more common than we want to know) Thai court "accepts" the case. Isn't that their job? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salapoo Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Thailand and Thais, never a boring moment or day you're not left wondering about these people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 choo-choo! Time to jump on the gravy train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 granny, the pimp mamasam in the story wants money? she should get 30 years in prison in stead of 30 million she might be confused a little bit and thai fathers and paying alimony? are you kidding ? that might set a precedent in court ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jaideeguy Posted July 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2013 And I thought that there were only foreign pedophiles here in LOS.............. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cup-O-coffee Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I believe this would be a paternity suit where the mother and the accused would be submitted to an H.L.A. test; the most accurate type of testing currenlty, which cannot prove he is the father, but only proves he is not the father, if that makes sense. This comes from presonal experience over 30 years ago when I was hit with a paternity suit. As far as the rape charges, I think she is over reaching it a bit as she has had a long time to think it over, and will find it difficult to explain to a judge why she waited so long, as the post-tramatic disorders of a rape victim usually make life intolerable in much less time than this. In my opinion, however, I would be leaning a bit towards the suthenticity of what she is saying about the child being his, since Thais hold the Buddhist monks in such awe, and for your average Thai to accuse a monk falsely, the consequences of shame and ostracism, as well as her personal nearness to the precepts of buddhism do not make it seem practical for her to choose to pursue this unless there is some ounce of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post culicine Posted July 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2013 No problem, neither the grandmother nor the child will see one baht of this monks i'll gotten gains. It's not his to give. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 That dude is gone - he took his ill-gotten gains and is sunning himself on a beach in a non-extradition country. Will never be brought back here. Just smoke to distract from the rice scheme abortion. True, who is to say he is still in the States. Most likely gone baby gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tominbkk Posted July 20, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2013 And I thought that there were only foreign pedophiles here in LOS.............. Foreign pedophiles probably make up .001% of the pedophiles here in Thailand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I'm not sure about the legal ramifications in the US, but if I was in charge, I would try every legal method to get him out of the US and hopefully back to Thailand, even if he cannot be formally charged until he is back on Thai soil. I know this guy can be tried in the US for pedophilia as for this crime, the act does not have to be done on US soil, but it would be better for all hands if the guy was tried in Thailand. AFAIK the oz legislation regarding paedophilia in foreign countries only applies to oz citizens, and I would be surprised if the US law is not the same. On second thoughts, I remember an oz citizen who was arrested in an LA transit lounge on his way to Mexico where he had advanced purchased paedophile acts through an FBI sting. Do you know for sure that US has laws covering acts of non-US citizens in foreign countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Wife tells me Thai TV news claims ex monk's passport has now been revoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggles Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 if his PP has been revoked how can he stay in US or go anywhere else by plane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstarbkk Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 While this may seem to be good news, remember that he can't be charged unless in Thailand to hear the charges read, and then can't be extradited to face those charges. Of course, that could be changed with legislation, but given PTP's leader's current circumstances, I doubt that will happen. Under most extradition treaties what's necessary is, that a warrant issued by a competent court and sufficient proof is presented by the requesting authorities, showing that a crime has been committed according to the laws of the extraditing country. Whether the guy has heard the charges in a Thai court is not necessarily relevant. The fact that an already convicted felon is wandering the face of the planet unencumbered, is testimony to the unwillingness of the current regime to apply the law equally to all its citizens (a.k.a. double standard), nothing more - nothing less. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 sicko bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi41 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Wife tells me Thai TV news claims ex monk's passport has now been revoked. Then it must be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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