Docno Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Good to see that they have actually asked for outside assistance when needed. Expensive tho for a guy (Thaksin)) who is not even a politician but just a criminal on the run. Divert people attention to gain some credit. Else, political game is going on. Great move. Let's see if this strategy works out for him to return back as this will create some sympathy in public heart. Ah, more of the conspiracy theories! This is why TV is one of the most entertaining sites on the Net. So let me get this straight... Darth Thaksin paid some Pakistanis to do a threat video so he could win the stubborn hearts of the Thai people and find his way back home. Is that a tear in my eye? Would make for a great novel. Please tell me when the movie comes out... p.s. you may want to 'up' the medication 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 '"What we can do is ask Malaysia to help identify if a person with the name 'Mansoor Ahmed Volvo' exists," he said.' Volvo? "I heard that he heard that he is doing....?" Sounds more like a Thai Visa regular filling us in on the "facts" (about virtually anything) he ferreted out from voices only he could hear. The managing director of Volvo Trucks Malaysia is a gentleman named Mansoor Ahmed..... Ha, ha,, i thought you were joking but I googled it anyway and there he is. It took me the whole of 15 seconds to find him, good old Thai intelligence. Perhaps we should inform them so they don't waste time and resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthesculptor Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Most likely a setup by the CIA to get a little Al Qaeda action in prep for Obamas next visit to Thailand. They are allways good for a headline or two. Maybe Obama is looking for more space here to "render" those on his hit list. Ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Could be he pissed off some people in Dubai, there would be no real political agenda triggering this, or maybe its a very transparent puny attempt for sympathy to his gullible followers so he can come home to the protection of Thailand where he will be safe!..... Could it's just another Sound Byte. He has to do it several times a year just to keep his name on the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Thaksin a suicide bomber...- Thaksin did once say he wasn't afraid of death. But I don't think he meant his own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Who would think this might be a "red herring" to divert attention both from the mess the Government is in over the Rice Pledging Scheme and the fact they are about to stick their hands into a vipers next over the various amnesty debates that are due to hit Parliament very soon? H-m-m-m-m-m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 This is so funny. I would guess that the Black Panthers, the Communist Party, the FBI, the PLF, the IRA and the UVF also cannot be ruled out. Or should we agree to let the USA bash Islam again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Or should we agree to let the USA bash Islam again? When was the last time? By the way, al Qaeda = Islam? Since when? ( I know millions of Muslims would take great offense at that inane idea - including some that I know.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 ah since CIA runs Al Quaeda they WOULD be able to tell Thai officials if it is them, but then they would have to acknowledge they fund AQ in Syria and Africa...oh wait, they have.... oh well good luck Since many on here get their 'news' from the Daily Mail/Express/Fox here's one of many links re CIA funded 'al quaeda' http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 ah since CIA runs Al Quaeda they WOULD be able to tell Thai officials if it is them, but then they would have to acknowledge they fund AQ in Syria and Africa...oh wait, they have.... oh well good luck Since many on here get their 'news' from the Daily Mail/Express/Fox here's one of many links re CIA funded 'al quaeda' http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=0228 What a source! A simple study of the history of the man and his organization (without any need to read shoddy newspapers or rely on shoddy websites) will tell you a couple things. Among them: 1) the Mujahideen and al Qaeda are completely separate entities. It is likely that some of the loads and loads of money poured into Afghanistan went to people working with bin Laden when he was fighting that war most of it went to others (some of whom were very odious indeed). al Qaeda didn't even exist at that time. 2) There have been many investigations by non governmental agencies and individuals and not a single bit of credible evidence has ever emerged that ObL received any training from the CIA nor is there anything to reasonably suggest that he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Maybe, but can we rule out the role the CIA played in this video? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGIE Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Common sense. If al-qaeda has a plan against the ex PM, what is the reason they had to put in youtube? Idiots!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Maybe, but can we rule out the role the CIA played in this video? I rule out very little. Would they do something like that (or far, far worse)? Certainly. Did they? Don't ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine51 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Mansoor Ahmed Volvo... Just gotta love this guys name! Sounds CIA to me... Edited July 31, 2013 by sunshine51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Mansoor Ahmed Volvo... Just gotta love this guys name! Sounds CIA to me... For sure, look at his history http://www.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?file=%2f2012%2f9%2f22%2fbusiness%2f12063521&sec=business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafish Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 The man they're looking for is named "Barrack Hussain Obama, and his side kicks Bill and Hillary. Of course the always reliable news sources here in los has us all a twitter in anticipation of outing the accuser. More phoney shows and more phoney reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Nice to see that Thai criminal fugitives in hiding overseas get such wonderful protection and are shown so much concern over their personal safety. What other country would do that, none, because they just don't have that "Thainess" the PM is so keen to show the world. Bravo PT, truly a govt that cares. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Certainly of no concern for Thaksin. He says he has many Muslim friends as he lives in Dubai. What arrogance!!!!! Certainly of no concern for Thaksin. He says he has many Muslim friends employes as he lives in Dubai. What arrogance!!!!! + ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Let's make it easier. Is there anyone they can rule out? I think we can rule out Al-Qaeda. They generally take credit for what they do. How ever I would not put it past them. They are basically a world wide organization. Just because you don't hear from them in an area dosen't mean they aren't there and haven't been there for a long time. Just ask the states if they were aware of their plans and actions on 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Pol Maj-General Pisit Paoin, commander of the Technology Crime Suppression Division, said his office does not have specialists to verify if the clip was the work of an international terrorist organisation like al-Qaeda, and needed help from foreign nations. This is a quantum leap forward for a Thai to publicly admit that something is beyond them. Perhaps if this 'step change' is a signal of a change in the Thai mindset and they go on to seek the assistance of outside help they might even be able to do something about the rampant corruption, road toll, etc., 'not to mention the illegal gambling' and perhaps even get a few of the ho's off the streets' I better pinch myself to make sure that I am not dreaming You are trying to turn apples into oranges. Al-Qaeda is a threat that they know can kill them at will. The rest of your talk is simply irrelevant. You are daydreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Please note this info comes from a Thai source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Let's make it easier. Is there anyone they can rule out? I think we can rule out Al-Qaeda. They generally take credit for what they do. How ever I would not put it past them. They are basically a world wide organization. Just because you don't hear from them in an area dosen't mean they aren't there and haven't been there for a long time. Just ask the states if they were aware of their plans and actions on 9/11. * In fact, al Qaeda has on many occasions NOT taken credit for actions attributable to them. * They aren't a singular and cohesive organization in the sense that many people imagine. Often times they are essentially a corporate brand that merely endorses an action - sometimes after the fact - or at most facilitates it to one degree or another. And there are so many offshoots and affiliates that use of the descriptor "al Qaeda" may be a practical necessity but it's not very precise. * The US was largely aware of plans (obviously not specifics) prior to 9/11 - and that's the great shame and tragedy of it. (I am NOT suggesting deliberate complicity, just lamentable failures and arguably unavoidable oversights). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 We read that Thaksin is not scared at all by this video. But by coincidence has moved his residence to Beijing(a city with v low muslim population) and away from Dubai which has quite alot of them. Did he make that move after the video, or before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 We read that Thaksin is not scared at all by this video. But by coincidence has moved his residence to Beijing(a city with v low muslim population) and away from Dubai which has quite alot of them. Did he make that move after the video, or before? Can't find a link to the news article I read, but see this from Khaosod " Many MPs of the ruling Pheu Thai Party are set to travel to Hong Kong, where the deposed former leader is residing..." Its been a long time since we heard of any of the govt flying off to the middle east to meet with him, and he had the legal troubles with his lawyer having allegedly stolen "his" money from the sale of Man city. Lots of recent news articles about him working from HK, his promoting the Bkk chief of police from there for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 but... but... Thailand said .... never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Al-Queda would never produce a video against Thaksin in Urdu. Urdu is the official government language of Pakistan and also spoken in several Indian States. In Pakistan only about 14 million speak the Urdu language and most that work within the Pakistani government. If the video is produced in Pakistan it would be either in Baloch, Pashto and if it was produced in Malaysia or Southern Thailand, it would be in either Bahas Maleyu / Bahasa Maleyu Kelantan and certainly in Thai. Certainly that video is a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynNY Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 My hunch that it could be a plot that Thugsin himself is behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlandy Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Al-Queda would never produce a video against Thaksin in Urdu. Urdu is the official government language of Pakistan and also spoken in several Indian States. In Pakistan only about 14 million speak the Urdu language and most that work within the Pakistani government. If the video is produced in Pakistan it would be either in Baloch, Pashto and if it was produced in Malaysia or Southern Thailand, it would be in either Bahas Maleyu / Bahasa Maleyu Kelantan and certainly in Thai. Certainly that video is a fake. Al-Qaeda would produce a video in any language they deem would get their message across. They might be a bunch of terrorists but that doesn't mean they are incapable of planning such events. "that's been proven already" And ignore it at your peril. THEY, are not amateurs! Edited July 31, 2013 by johnlandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachiket Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Good to see that they have actually asked for outside assistance when needed. Expensive tho for a guy (Thaksin)) who is not even a politician but just a criminal on the run. Divert people attention to gain some credit. Else, political game is going on. Great move. Let's see if this strategy works out for him to return back as this will create some sympathy in public heart. Ah, more of the conspiracy theories! This is why TV is one of the most entertaining sites on the Net. So let me get this straight... Darth Thaksin paid some Pakistanis to do a threat video so he could win the stubborn hearts of the Thai people and find his way back home. Is that a tear in my eye? Would make for a great novel. Please tell me when the movie comes out... p.s. you may want to 'up' the medication If we think logically, it is clear that, AL-Q or Muslims or Jihad have problem with 4 countries and 3 religions; viz 1] USA 2] UK 3] Israel and 4] India 1] Christians 2] Jews and 3] Hindus Now, where does Thaksin fit in this picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Good to see that they have actually asked for outside assistance when needed. Expensive tho for a guy (Thaksin)) who is not even a politician but just a criminal on the run. Divert people attention to gain some credit. Else, political game is going on. Great move. Let's see if this strategy works out for him to return back as this will create some sympathy in public heart. Ah, more of the conspiracy theories! This is why TV is one of the most entertaining sites on the Net. So let me get this straight... Darth Thaksin paid some Pakistanis to do a threat video so he could win the stubborn hearts of the Thai people and find his way back home. Is that a tear in my eye? Would make for a great novel. Please tell me when the movie comes out... p.s. you may want to 'up' the medication If we think logically, it is clear that, AL-Q or Muslims or Jihad have problem with 4 countries and 3 religions; viz 1] USA 2] UK 3] Israel and 4] India 1] Christians 2] Jews and 3] Hindus Now, where does Thaksin fit in this picture? Your question is a good one except it's based on a fallacy. If you think al Q or any other Islamists have problems with only those countries, you are very uninformed on the topic. And you are mistaken in thinking they have a specific animus towards those religions, per se; they view Buddhists as they would any other infidels. (In fact, Christianity and Judaism - as Abrahamic religions - are closer to Islam than Buddhism and with some Islamists would be regarded with arguably slightly more favor.) I have no position on the veracity of the claim in the OP, but it's a ridiculous oversimplification to claim al Qaeda et al only have issues with people if they are from 3 countries and/ 3 religions or even to posit that they have an issue with people BECAUSE they come from those countries or are believers in those faiths. Apostasy and infidels and opposition to the Caliphate. That's ultimately what it's about. Those who they perceive to be in opposition to Jihad come in many guises... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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