Pattaya Tourist Police arrest German fake policeman and suspected child molester

[balo]

 

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

 

"...happy to come from a civilized country..."???

 

I sometimes really wonder what a civilized country is.  Germany that produced probably the greatest mass murderer of all time...oh sorry, Austria produced him...Germany only elected him.  England and it's "Empire where the sun never sets" and ruled over and subjugated millions for decades and more.  France which invented a humane way to kill its own people (i.e., the guillotine).  Russia which produced the only rival to Germany's claim to having the greatest mass murderer in history.  Spain which endured one of the bloodiest civil wars of he last century.  The list goes on.  Yeah, we all come from "a civilized country".  That includes myself...coming from the USA where we basically slaughtered and subjugated Native Americans to make room for the nation's expansion, among other "civilized" things, both past and present.  Anyway, I'm not passing judgement on anyone....just food for thought.

 

Back on topic, child molesters have to be the lowest of lowest in any "civilized" society and if that what's this guy was up to, hopefully he'll get a long prison sentence in a THAI jail.

 

 

 

In my book an ugly old 50 year old who pays for 18 year olds to have sex is worse than an attractive twenty something having a consensual relationship with a teen who was barely under age.

What if that 50 year old is attractive and fit ?

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[brewsterbudgen]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

"...happy to come from a civilized country..."???

I sometimes really wonder what a civilized country is. Germany that produced probably the greatest mass murderer of all time...oh sorry, Austria produced him...Germany only elected him. England and it's "Empire where the sun never sets" and ruled over and subjugated millions for decades and more. France which invented a humane way to kill its own people (i.e., the guillotine). Russia which produced the only rival to Germany's claim to having the greatest mass murderer in history. Spain which endured one of the bloodiest civil wars of he last century. The list goes on. Yeah, we all come from "a civilized country". That includes myself...coming from the USA where we basically slaughtered and subjugated Native Americans to make room for the nation's expansion, among other "civilized" things, both past and present. Anyway, I'm not passing judgement on anyone....just food for thought.

Back on topic, child molesters have to be the lowest of lowest in any "civilized" society and if that what's this guy was up to, hopefully he'll get a long prison sentence in a THAI jail.

Seems there is a bit of a rush to judgement here, quite ironic since I just came from a thread where one of the guy, as is typical of many here, is an over 50 who is dating 18-20 year olds.

Besides, was he a volunteer police whose license expired? That could be called a "fake license". Or maybe he just bought a souvenir because he thought it's cool. Maybe he just uses it and handcuffs for roleplay. The story didn't mention him using it to extort money or do illegal things with it. Why did the father only report him once he got concerned it was interfering with his daughter's studies?

The guy is in his twenties, and it's worth noting the age of consent is 15, if he was some sort of methodical hunter of young girls he'd stick to 15 year olds so I find the charges levelled here to be inaccurate. Or if he waited a few months his relationship would been legal. The girl was apparently voluntarily with him and the guy was not with other girls (since it didn't list other victims). How about some condemnation for all the fifty or sixty year old geezers in Thailand paying 18 year olds (a fourth their age!) for sex they don't want.

I think a lot of humans like to puff up their own morality on news like this yet fail to see their own failings. Probably someone on this very thread is 30-60 yrs old and watches pornography with the youngest possible models (18-19), or which uses phrases like "young", "teen", "school girls", etc. Were the law for pornography 16, probably most of you on this thread would be indulging in that. 15 much the same. Perhaps even 14.

I can't see why old geezers who indulge in the exploitation of 18 year old teenage girls, think they have some right to criticize a guy half their age who was from what the article seems to say, having a consensual monogamous relationship and apparently had met the father previously. He was basically thrown in jail for interfering with the girl's studies...

In my book an ugly old 50 year old who pays for 18 year olds to have sex is worse than an attractive twenty something having a consensual relationship with a teen who was barely under age.

I hope you don't live in Thailand or you're going to find it very unpleasant here.

[Amras]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

Imprisonment should be punishment, not a place to "reform" sick criminals like this piece of <deleted>. Punish them first and then the PC brigade in the west can reform him and then let him loose into the community.

And I hope somebody with a 9 year old daughter who is a strong advocate for reforming child molesters lets him live in his house as part of his rehabilitation - yeah, right.

WOW Pattaya Police arrested 2 Fake Pedo Cops - one Thai and one Anglo-German - PattayaOne News is running both stories - the fake Thai Cop was carrying a BB Gun and a walkie talkie and sexually abused young girls

A 28 year old Pattaya Police Volunteer was arrested in the early hours of Saturday after the father of a 14 year old girl reported the volunteer was in a sexual relationship with her.

The volunteer, named as Khun Don, was arrested in front of the Poipet Market in Soi Neun Plub Wan in East Pattaya. He was in uniform and was carrying a two-way radio and a BB Gun.

The Father of the girl was unhappy after hearing about the relationship and told Police that it was affecting his daughters schooling as she opted to see Khun Don rather than attend school on numerous occasions. It is thought the pair were in a relationship for at-least 4 months had engaged in sexual intercourse at-least twice.

The Police Volunteer was arrested and charged with sexual offences with a minor under the age of 15. The case will be heard in Court in due course.

- See more at: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/98542/pattaya-police-volunteer-sexual-relationship-14-year-girl/#sthash.DJ2HweUy.dpuf

Funny how so many people jump to condemning him as guilty. The article says so little. They could claim the girls on his phone were 16 or 17 and still charge him with child pornography, yet it would be difficult to prove. What about all the Thai's on the street selling real kiddie porn in front of everyone? It's easy to charge them and nothing is done, even though it's in plain site.

I'm actually suprised about the second article.

[Amras]

Seems there is a bit of a rush to judgement here, quite ironic since I just came from a thread where one of the guy, as is typical of many here, is an over 50 who is dating 18-20 year olds.

Besides, was he a volunteer police whose license expired? That could be called a "fake license". Or maybe he just bought a souvenir because he thought it's cool. Maybe he just uses it and handcuffs for roleplay. The story didn't mention him using it to extort money or do illegal things with it. Why did the father only report him once he got concerned it was interfering with his daughter's studies?

The guy is in his twenties, and it's worth noting the age of consent is 15, if he was some sort of methodical hunter of young girls he'd stick to 15 year olds so I find the charges levelled here to be inaccurate. Or if he waited a few months his relationship would been legal. The girl was apparently voluntarily with him and the guy was not with other girls (since it didn't list other victims). How about some condemnation for all the fifty or sixty year old geezers in Thailand paying 18 year olds (a fourth their age!) for sex they don't want.

I think a lot of humans like to puff up their own morality on news like this yet fail to see their own failings. Probably someone on this very thread is 30-60 yrs old and watches pornography with the youngest possible models (18-19), or which uses phrases like "young", "teen", "school girls", etc. Were the law for pornography 16, probably most of you on this thread would be indulging in that. 15 much the same. Perhaps even 14.

I can't see why old geezers who indulge in the exploitation of 18 year old teenage girls, think they have some right to criticize a guy half their age who was from what the article seems to say, having a consensual monogamous relationship and apparently had met the father previously. He was basically thrown in jail for interfering with the girl's studies...

In my book an ugly old 50 year old who pays for 18 year olds to have sex is worse than an attractive twenty something having a consensual relationship with a teen who was barely under age.

I hope you don't live in Thailand or you're going to find it very unpleasant here.

I live here, I also find this disgusting. It's what essentially comes down to 'pedophiles' going as young as they can, so they 'legally' can't get in trouble. I guess you can say they are 'smarter'.

No one can justify or give any reason for an 18-20 year old to be with a 40-50+ year old. It's exploitation. If you're 40, look 30...it's a bit more blurred. But many of the older westerns that are seen with these young girls, really do look old enough to be their grandfather.

It's disgusting, it's all exploitation through money. It does happen in the west too, but it's quite rare and we are talking millionaires who are involved like this (not making it right, but it's rare because of the less division in wealth).

Imagine having an 18-20 year old daughter who was sleeping with a man that was either the same age as you (her father) or older. No one can tell me the would be ok with that.

[scotinsiam]

To be honest - I do not really think this should be in the News at this point. I am making no comment on whether or not this guy is guilty or innocent because I have no information apart from the Police accusation reported. I believe a proper investigation should be carried out and if there are grounds he goes to court and if found guilty - punish him properly and report it in the News.

[Just1Voice]

Ok, no way am I defending this guy, but before the "Hang 'em High Brigade" is in full stampede, let's look at a few things in regards to the child molestation. First, the headlines say "suspected", which means at this time they don't have any real proof that he actually has molested anyone. The OP talks about SIMS and other things found in his room, but unless they specifically show him, or can clearly identify him, the most he could be charged with is possession of kiddie porn. Bad enough in itself, but not as serious as actually being a molester himself. And despite what the OP says, he has not actually been charged with molestation. That may yet happen, but for the moment, as much as most of us would rant and rave, he is innocent until proven guilty. I'm sure that most of us from the so-called "civilized countries" remember that in regards to the law. On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

[Larry001]

Good luck in a Thai jail you magot

[CarthagoDelendaEst]

I hope you don't live in Thailand or you're going to find it very unpleasant here.

I do live here and find it disgusting as does Amras. What's worse, when I bump into foreigners I sometimes meet a 50 year old who is with a 20 year old girl but then ALSO some 50-60 year olds who have an adopted Thai daughter who is 15-20 and it's often hard to tell the difference! Either way that's bad, if you assume it's their daughter and say that they'll be embarassed, or if you say girlfriend and it's an adopted daughter that's bad too.

In my book an ugly old 50 year old who pays for 18 year olds to have sex is worse than an attractive twenty something having a consensual relationship with a teen who was barely under age.

What if that 50 year old is attractive and fit ?

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Not much better. Generally speaking dating anyone under half your age is creepy and also makes for social awkwardness (i.e. makes me ask "is that your adopted daughter or girlfriend?"). But since I'm in my twenties myself I guess it's super disgusting to see people older than my father dating girls younger than my girlfriend.

You're old enough to be their father or grandfather. I'm not saying I super condemn it, I was just pointing out the RIDICULOUSNESS of this forum condemning a twenty-something for being with a girl who he is not old enough to be the father of, when there are a bunch of 50 year olds ON THIS WEBSITE dating girls they are old enough to be the GRANDPARENTS of.

Edited August 10, 2013 by CarthagoDelendaEst

[Nowhereman60]

They should have gotten the kids in the films and his Thai girlfriend to also come in for a photo op pointing at him.

[petercool]

The reality seems to be that that he once was a Foreign Tourist Police Assistant who was dismissed. He then began to be an unofficial informer for Child Protection but used that as a pretext to blackmail some girls caught in underage sex by saying he would have them prosecuted unless they had sex with him. He was known within the German community to openly brag about that but my contact never had a name to supply so it was not possible to track him down. He likely never retained any valid ID but just used the ID holder which can bought as a souvenir easily enough. So, those who wish to try and defend him in any way need to rethink.

Edited August 10, 2013 by petercool

[MB1]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

"...happy to come from a civilized country..."???

I sometimes really wonder what a civilized country is. Germany that produced probably the greatest mass murderer of all time...oh sorry, Austria produced him...Germany only elected him. England and it's "Empire where the sun never sets" and ruled over and subjugated millions for decades and more. France which invented a humane way to kill its own people (i.e., the guillotine). Russia which produced the only rival to Germany's claim to having the greatest mass murderer in history. Spain which endured one of the bloodiest civil wars of he last century. The list goes on. Yeah, we all come from "a civilized country". That includes myself...coming from the USA where we basically slaughtered and subjugated Native Americans to make room for the nation's expansion, among other "civilized" things, both past and present. Anyway, I'm not passing judgement on anyone....just food for thought.

Back on topic, child molesters have to be the lowest of lowest in any "civilized" society and if that what's this guy was up to, hopefully he'll get a long prison sentence in a THAI jail.

Seems there is a bit of a rush to judgement here, quite ironic since I just came from a thread where one of the guy, as is typical of many here, is an over 50 who is dating 18-20 year olds.

Besides, was he a volunteer police whose license expired? That could be called a "fake license". Or maybe he just bought a souvenir because he thought it's cool. Maybe he just uses it and handcuffs for roleplay. The story didn't mention him using it to extort money or do illegal things with it. Why did the father only report him once he got concerned it was interfering with his daughter's studies?

The guy is in his twenties, and it's worth noting the age of consent is 15, if he was some sort of methodical hunter of young girls he'd stick to 15 year olds so I find the charges levelled here to be inaccurate. Or if he waited a few months his relationship would been legal. The girl was apparently voluntarily with him and the guy was not with other girls (since it didn't list other victims). How about some condemnation for all the fifty or sixty year old geezers in Thailand paying 18 year olds (a fourth their age!) for sex they don't want.

I think a lot of humans like to puff up their own morality on news like this yet fail to see their own failings. Probably someone on this very thread is 30-60 yrs old and watches pornography with the youngest possible models (18-19), or which uses phrases like "young", "teen", "school girls", etc. Were the law for pornography 16, probably most of you on this thread would be indulging in that. 15 much the same. Perhaps even 14.

I can't see why old geezers who indulge in the exploitation of 18 year old teenage girls, think they have some right to criticize a guy half their age who was from what the article seems to say, having a consensual monogamous relationship and apparently had met the father previously. He was basically thrown in jail for interfering with the girl's studies...

In my book an ugly old 50 year old who pays for 18 year olds to have sex is worse than an attractive twenty something having a consensual relationship with a teen who was barely under age.

The article states the guy is 32, not in his twenties, re-read the article/OP.

The law is the law whether you like it or not, so if a guy in his 40's or 50's wants to go with a girl who is willing and of the legal age then whether you like it or not, no law is being broken, if a guy has a girl and she is under the lawful age then take the consequences.

Seems to me some of the replys on this thread are from someone wanting to play devil's advocate or are just trolling.

If the guy is found guilty he deserves all he gets, but as others have pointed out, it's a bit too early to join the hang em high brigade.

Edited August 10, 2013 by MB1

[CarthagoDelendaEst]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age and yet THEY want to condemn this guy less than half their age for dating a girl barely younger than the ones they are dating, and he didn't have to pay her or exploit her, and he's not as ugly or revolting as some of the guys here are, who force their fat, old, saggy bodies on tiny girls young enough to be their grandchildren, who have to hold in the vomit from disgust, and only do it for the money.

I'll say it again. In my book, many of the people here are much worse than this guy.

[Colabamumbai]

Congratulations to the Thai Police.

Edited August 10, 2013 by Colabamumbai

[MB1]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age and yet THEY want to condemn this guy less than half their age for dating a girl barely younger than the ones they are dating, and he didn't have to pay her or exploit her, and he's not as ugly or revolting as some of the guys here are, who force their fat, old, saggy bodies on tiny girls young enough to be their grandchildren, who have to hold in the vomit from disgust, and only do it for the money.

I'll say it again. In my book, many of the people here are much worse than this guy.

TROLL, with a capital T.

[Colabamumbai]

Well done !

Despise Kiddy Fiddlers & sounds like it is all Primary Evidence

That's the Press Coverage I like to see.

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I have always thought ill of the British for calling these people 'fiddlers'. It makes a horrible crime sound less serious. It is not Fiddling it is Molesting.

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And we Canadians call them diddlers.

[pacharaphet]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

"...happy to come from a civilized country..."???

I sometimes really wonder what a civilized country is. Germany that produced probably the greatest mass murderer of all time...oh sorry, Austria produced him...Germany only elected him. England and it's "Empire where the sun never sets" and ruled over and subjugated millions for decades and more. France which invented a humane way to kill its own people (i.e., the guillotine). Russia which produced the only rival to Germany's claim to having the greatest mass murderer in history. Spain which endured one of the bloodiest civil wars of he last century. The list goes on. Yeah, we all come from "a civilized country". That includes myself...coming from the USA where we basically slaughtered and subjugated Native Americans to make room for the nation's expansion, among other "civilized" things, both past and present. Anyway, I'm not passing judgement on anyone....just food for thought.

Back on topic, child molesters have to be the lowest of lowest in any "civilized" society and if that what's this guy was up to, hopefully he'll get a long prison sentence in a THAI jail.

Seems there is a bit of a rush to judgement here, quite ironic since I just came from a thread where one of the guy, as is typical of many here, is an over 50 who is dating 18-20 year olds.

Besides, was he a volunteer police whose license expired? That could be called a "fake license". Or maybe he just bought a souvenir because he thought it's cool. Maybe he just uses it and handcuffs for roleplay. The story didn't mention him using it to extort money or do illegal things with it. Why did the father only report him once he got concerned it was interfering with his daughter's studies?

The guy is in his twenties, and it's worth noting the age of consent is 15, if he was some sort of methodical hunter of young girls he'd stick to 15 year olds so I find the charges levelled here to be inaccurate. Or if he waited a few months his relationship would been legal. The girl was apparently voluntarily with him and the guy was not with other girls (since it didn't list other victims). How about some condemnation for all the fifty or sixty year old geezers in Thailand paying 18 year olds (a fourth their age!) for sex they don't want.

I think a lot of humans like to puff up their own morality on news like this yet fail to see their own failings. Probably someone on this very thread is 30-60 yrs old and watches pornography with the youngest possible models (18-19), or which uses phrases like "young", "teen", "school girls", etc. Were the law for pornography 16, probably most of you on this thread would be indulging in that. 15 much the same. Perhaps even 14.

I can't see why old geezers who indulge in the exploitation of 18 year old teenage girls, think they have some right to criticize a guy half their age who was from what the article seems to say, having a consensual monogamous relationship and apparently had met the father previously. He was basically thrown in jail for interfering with the girl's studies...

In my book an ugly old 50 year old who pays for 18 year olds to have sex is worse than an attractive twenty something having a consensual relationship with a teen who was barely under age.

Found your comment very much in line with what I think until the last line. What in the world do "ugly" and "attractive" have to do with anything? It makes me think that you are maybe a little bit biased against the old geezers you speak of. And you act like no girl in Thailand has ever slept with an "old geezer" because they wanted to....define "want." Plenty of women want the money bad enough to go through with it, they are not forced. At the same time, plenty of girls say no to these kind of approaches. The girls aren't all innocent, the old geeezers aren't all guilty, and this guy mentioned in the OP, well, I wouldn't pass judgement on him based on a couple of reactionary news articles. Hence, like I said, I agree with most of you say, but I feel like a lot of your reasoning is being filtered through your "I hate the old white fat farang who is sullying the western image in Thailand." Hey, I am biased, too, I'm 25 and work as a Thai translator and interpreter and get really sick of the questions: you must have a Thai girlfriend, why do farangs like sex so much, why do farangs have sex with little kids, blah blah blah...but that doesn't mean someone attractive and closer to my own age is somehow automatically problematic than the ugly old farts.

[Just1Voice]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age and yet THEY want to condemn this guy less than half their age for dating a girl barely younger than the ones they are dating, and he didn't have to pay her or exploit her, and he's not as ugly or revolting as some of the guys here are, who force their fat, old, saggy bodies on tiny girls young enough to be their grandchildren, who have to hold in the vomit from disgust, and only do it for the money.

I'll say it again. In my book, many of the people here are much worse than this guy.

First off, your comments concerning a 20 something involved with a 14 yr old are IN THE WRONG THREAD. Stick to the OP and the topic HERE, not the other one. Or perhaps at your tender age you didn't realize what you were doing.

Second, put down your paint brush about "old geezers" who exploit 18 yrs olds, etc. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but this "old geezer" who at 64 is in excellent physical condition and could, more than likely, embarrass the hell out of you in a fight and teach you a little more manners that your parents seemed to have been somewhat reluctant in. MY Thai wife is 54, My two closest farang friends also have wives 10 years or less younger than them. So you are making assumptions for which you have zero factual statistics for, other than what you may have seen, and what you think.

A word of advice to you from an "old geezer". Engage brain before operating mouth

[Amras]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age and yet THEY want to condemn this guy less than half their age for dating a girl barely younger than the ones they are dating, and he didn't have to pay her or exploit her, and he's not as ugly or revolting as some of the guys here are, who force their fat, old, saggy bodies on tiny girls young enough to be their grandchildren, who have to hold in the vomit from disgust, and only do it for the money.

I'll say it again. In my book, many of the people here are much worse than this guy.

TROLL, with a capital T.

I don't think he is trolling. He is stating a pretty clear and fair observation and opinion that he is passionate about.

Again, I ask (people seem to have ignored my comment because it speaks the truth).

How would you (in general) like your 18-20 year old daughter (assuming you have one) dating or even just sleeping with, a man that is your age or older? I'm damn sure that they people who are doing it in Thailand would be furious if they found out there daughter was doing the exact same thing and if not...well....I can only guess what is wrong with them.

This German hasn't even been convicted he is charged with " (snip) ...and of molesting children under the age of 15 after video clips and explicit pictures were found on his mobile phone and on memory cards found at his home." and "and possession of child pornography and suspected sexual assault of minors under the age of 15 - See more at: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/98587/pattaya-tourist-police-arrest-german-fake-police-suspected-child-molester/#sthash.GcsiONJ5.dpuf

Nothing about proof of the act....just suspected..with who? Where are these mysterious persons?

I'm not saying he isn't guilty, but damn people on here are quick to jump to guilty verdicts. I'd hate for any of your to ever be on a jury with your predetermined judgement's about guilt based on a 100 word article.

[BwindiBoy]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

"...happy to come from a civilized country..."???

I sometimes really wonder what a civilized country is. Germany that produced probably the greatest mass murderer of all time...oh sorry, Austria produced him...Germany only elected him. England and it's "Empire where the sun never sets" and ruled over and subjugated millions for decades and more. France which invented a humane way to kill its own people (i.e., the guillotine). Russia which produced the only rival to Germany's claim to having the greatest mass murderer in history. Spain which endured one of the bloodiest civil wars of he last century. The list goes on. Yeah, we all come from "a civilized country". That includes myself...coming from the USA where we basically slaughtered and subjugated Native Americans to make room for the nation's expansion, among other "civilized" things, both past and present. Anyway, I'm not passing judgement on anyone....just food for thought.

Back on topic, child molesters have to be the lowest of lowest in any "civilized" society and if that what's this guy was up to, hopefully he'll get a long prison sentence in a THAI jail.

Seems there is a bit of a rush to judgement here, quite ironic since I just came from a thread where one of the guy, as is typical of many here, is an over 50 who is dating 18-20 year olds.

Besides, was he a volunteer police whose license expired? That could be called a "fake license". Or maybe he just bought a souvenir because he thought it's cool. Maybe he just uses it and handcuffs for roleplay. The story didn't mention him using it to extort money or do illegal things with it. Why did the father only report him once he got concerned it was interfering with his daughter's studies?

The guy is in his twenties, and it's worth noting the age of consent is 15, if he was some sort of methodical hunter of young girls he'd stick to 15 year olds so I find the charges levelled here to be inaccurate. Or if he waited a few months his relationship would been legal. The girl was apparently voluntarily with him and the guy was not with other girls (since it didn't list other victims). How about some condemnation for all the fifty or sixty year old geezers in Thailand paying 18 year olds (a fourth their age!) for sex they don't want.

I think a lot of humans like to puff up their own morality on news like this yet fail to see their own failings. Probably someone on this very thread is 30-60 yrs old and watches pornography with the youngest possible models (18-19), or which uses phrases like "young", "teen", "school girls", etc. Were the law for pornography 16, probably most of you on this thread would be indulging in that. 15 much the same. Perhaps even 14.

I can't see why old geezers who indulge in the exploitation of 18 year old teenage girls, think they have some right to criticize a guy half their age who was from what the article seems to say, having a consensual monogamous relationship and apparently had met the father previously. He was basically thrown in jail for interfering with the girl's studies...

In my book an ugly old 50 year old who pays for 18 year olds to have sex is worse than an attractive twenty something having a consensual relationship with a teen who was barely under age.

He's kiddy fiddling = illegal!! Says a lot for your "habits" (suppressed or not)!

[TommyDee]

there is more to this little tale than meets the eye, which is why we didnt run it in our new today.

his room was turned over and no porn pics found. but he was also photographed semi naked during the raid which may indicate he was "caught" or may not

at this point he may or may not have porn stuff on his phone, no one knows except the police

he Was,at least until recently a WS walkin St vol. tour. cop

if he is a pedo, shoot his whatits off, with all our blessings, in fact i will pull the trigger..but at least be sure, as they are very hard to sew back on again when full of lead.

Edited August 10, 2013 by TommyDee

[Amras]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age and yet THEY want to condemn this guy less than half their age for dating a girl barely younger than the ones they are dating, and he didn't have to pay her or exploit her, and he's not as ugly or revolting as some of the guys here are, who force their fat, old, saggy bodies on tiny girls young enough to be their grandchildren, who have to hold in the vomit from disgust, and only do it for the money.

I'll say it again. In my book, many of the people here are much worse than this guy.

First off, your comments concerning a 20 something involved with a 14 yr old are IN THE WRONG THREAD. Stick to the OP and the topic HERE, not the other one. Or perhaps at your tender age you didn't realize what you were doing.

Second, put down your paint brush about "old geezers" who exploit 18 yrs olds, etc. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but this "old geezer" who at 64 is in excellent physical condition and could, more than likely, embarrass the hell out of you in a fight and teach you a little more manners that your parents seemed to have been somewhat reluctant in. MY Thai wife is 54, My two closest farang friends also have wives 10 years or less younger than them. So you are making assumptions for which you have zero factual statistics for, other than what you may have seen, and what you think.

A word of advice to you from an "old geezer". Engage brain before operating mouth

Wait...where did he (or I I guess) say 10 years was a huge age difference? 10 year's is quite normal. here and back home (in the west). The age gap (and the issue) changes greatly as you age (60 and 40 is 20 years difference, but really, people are quite similar in mindset, both have experienced quite a bit of life and matured, obviously).

But when you talk about a 40-50+ year old with a teenager...a girl who hasn't even finished school, sorry, but you are wrong. This has nothing to do with you and your wife, or your friends wives. Clearly they aren't in this demographic and your relationship is one of similar understanding, experience and thinking and not one that is about exploiting someone's circumstance and money.

No one ever, can say a 40-50+ year old and a 20 year old have ANYTHING in common. I'm 29 and I can barely relate to a 18-20 year old, find them mostly immature (especially Thai's) (and people consider me to be younger than my age, so I'm not really 'older minded').

Way to go trying to threaten people....sigh...apparently if you are fit, it means you are defying the laws of aging. And also, you need manners, to not be disgusted with older men being with younger teenage girls....go figure. Again, why are you defending yourself...this is not you.

A 50-60 year old is still 50-60 regardless of how fit they are. You again are probably an exception, not the norm in your age bracket (and well done for being that, I truly mean that), but it doesn't make them being with a 20 year old right.

Thai girls do love money, ask a Thai girl and the honest ones will tell you all about the females of their race. Thai's marry Thai's, Japanese, Malaysians for money...look at the recent actress who (in her 20's) got married to a senior governmetn official (believe he is in his 50's). The difference is...she's not being exploited by her circumstances.....

A word of advice from someone younger (who's brain is still of prime age). Before you criticize others and start defending yourself, realise that what you have is completely normal, and you weren't in the demographic or 50 year olds with 20 year olds (that was being discussed) and hence have nothing to defend.

[brewsterbudgen]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age and yet THEY want to condemn this guy less than half their age for dating a girl barely younger than the ones they are dating, and he didn't have to pay her or exploit her, and he's not as ugly or revolting as some of the guys here are, who force their fat, old, saggy bodies on tiny girls young enough to be their grandchildren, who have to hold in the vomit from disgust, and only do it for the money.

I'll say it again. In my book, many of the people here are much worse than this guy.

TROLL, with a capital T.

I agree that he's probably a troll and as a 53 year old myself with a girlfriend of 23, who I've been with for just under 4 years, I guess I'm equally guilty of rising to his ridiculous, over-the-top troll comments, which in any case are completely off topic.

[biplanebluey]

They should do the 'child photo slide' test for all westerners applying for visa to SEA. same headlines everyday Is getting boring.

Especially in pattaya.

Excuse my ignorance but what is the "child photo slide" test.

[CarthagoDelendaEst]

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age and yet THEY want to condemn this guy less than half their age for dating a girl barely younger than the ones they are dating, and he didn't have to pay her or exploit her, and he's not as ugly or revolting as some of the guys here are, who force their fat, old, saggy bodies on tiny girls young enough to be their grandchildren, who have to hold in the vomit from disgust, and only do it for the money.

I'll say it again. In my book, many of the people here are much worse than this guy.

TROLL, with a capital T.

It's on topic and genuine. Not trolling. Do you really think it's not reasonable to point out the hypocrisy of the many 50+ year old creeps here exploiting thai girls who are 18-20, railing against a guy half their age dating a girl roughly the same age as the ones they do?

The article states the guy is 32, not in his twenties, re-read the article/OP.

The law is the law whether you like it or not, so if a guy in his 40's or 50's wants to go with a girl who is willing and of the legal age then whether you like it or not, no law is being broken, if a guy has a girl and she is under the lawful age then take the consequences.

Seems to me some of the replys on this thread are from someone wanting to play devil's advocate or are just trolling.

If the guy is found guilty he deserves all he gets, but as others have pointed out, it's a bit too early to join the hang em high brigade.

Okay, so that makes him old enough to be her father and officially creepy, but he's still half the age of many of the posters here (50+) who are dating girls young enough to be their grandchildren, yet think they have a right to condemn this guy to death (usually advocating cruel and unusual punishments).

And "law is the law whether you like it or not", is rather stupid in a democracy to say, since if the public would like a law it's usually quickly written and made.

It also shows a mentality that bends it's own morality to whatever the "law is". If the law said it was okay for 16 year olds to be prostitutes and be in pornography, many of the people here, perhaps yourself, would then have that same mentality and say "the law is the law so it's okay!".

And yet, because it's AGAINST the law now for 17 yr old porn, you would yell OFF WITH THEIR HEADS for those who break that law, but in that alternate reality where 17 is legal you yourself may likely be consuming such filth.

It's contemptible to have such weak morals that they are defined by whatever the law states.

Law is SUPPOSED to be a reflection of morality. I don't care if no law is being broken. It's still WRONG. I would be in favor of a law that you can't date someone half your age (maybe half your age plus 4-5 years so a 14 year old for example can't be with below 11, 20 can't be with below 15, etc.). In many countries the penalties are different based on how close your age is.

For some reason the laws of many countries tend to make above 18 "fair game" to all geezers. And the reality may have something to do with the fact that politicians are all a bunch of old power-hungry geezers who often use that power to sleep with 18-20 year old interns....

[Amras]

there is more to this little tale than meets the eye, which is why we didnt run it in our new today.

his room was turned over and no porn pics found. but he was also photographed semi naked during the raid which may indicate he was "caught" or may not

at this point he may or may not have porn stuff on his phone, no one knows

he Was,at least until recently a WS walkin St vol. tour. cop

if he is a pedo, shoot his whatits off, with all our blessings, in fact i will pull the trigger..but at least be sure, as they are very hard to sew back on again when full of lead.

So really...they have nothing? Being naked in your own house...what's the world coming to......

[OKF]

@morpho: I think you forgot a lot to tell about your country, a lot....As an American you have no reason, but no reason at all to point your finger at anybody in this world....I am German and I am surely not proud of what happened in my country in tne past and buy the way 'he' was not elected by the people....please be careful what you publicly state as this is quite a bit more complex issue...however it is not the issue here so why are you getting polemic(?).... I do consider my country being civilized though I have to think about whether I would call the USA civilized because sometimes I have mydoubts e.g. in several states you still have death penalty which in my opinion is not civilized, to me it is barbaric....I feel that is something Europe did overcome ages ago....it is a question of humanity...and looking at all the morons in the US going on about Jesus, Christianty and so on...get real...just only a few thoughts into the round...you know....

I not expect people that think death penalty is the right punishment understand the principle of humantiy and being civilized...actually to understand a bit about Buddhismn that will teach you (I mean the real one)....

[bangon04]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

"...happy to come from a civilized country..."???

I sometimes really wonder what a civilized country is. Germany that produced probably the greatest mass murderer of all time...oh sorry, Austria produced him...Germany only elected him. England and it's "Empire where the sun never sets" and ruled over and subjugated millions for decades and more. France which invented a humane way to kill its own people (i.e., the guillotine). Russia which produced the only rival to Germany's claim to having the greatest mass murderer in history. Spain which endured one of the bloodiest civil wars of he last century. The list goes on. Yeah, we all come from "a civilized country". That includes myself...coming from the USA where we basically slaughtered and subjugated Native Americans to make room for the nation's expansion, among other "civilized" things, both past and present. Anyway, I'm not passing judgement on anyone....just food for thought.

Back on topic, child molesters have to be the lowest of lowest in any "civilized" society and if that what's this guy was up to, hopefully he'll get a long prison sentence in a THAI jail.

Maybe a definition of a "civilised" country is one which learns from its mistakes in the past.... the Christians should have learned to stop slaughtering the muslims etc etc.

Not sure how many truly civilised countries there are, but quite a few have developed hugely complicated and seriously intended child protection laws - do they always work? No. But is the intention a good one?

[Amras]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age and yet THEY want to condemn this guy less than half their age for dating a girl barely younger than the ones they are dating, and he didn't have to pay her or exploit her, and he's not as ugly or revolting as some of the guys here are, who force their fat, old, saggy bodies on tiny girls young enough to be their grandchildren, who have to hold in the vomit from disgust, and only do it for the money.

I'll say it again. In my book, many of the people here are much worse than this guy.

TROLL, with a capital T.

I agree that he's probably a troll and as a 53 year old myself with a girlfriend of 23, who I've been with for just under 4 years, I guess I'm equally guilty of rising to his ridiculous, over-the-top troll comments, which in any case are completely off topic.

Question is, would you be ok with your daughter, in her early 20's dating a man your same age? (assuming you have one) . I'm really curious.(this is an honest question)..how do you relate to her?. I'd only be 7 years older than her...and unless she's quite educated, opinionated and open minded, even I'd have trouble relating to her. Unless of course, you enjoy watching Lakorn and Thai TV and reading Thai magazines....then maybe...

Not entirely off topic....there is only a legal barrier between someone engaging in a sexual relationship with someone 15-17 and someone 18. The moral barrier, is quite a different one. .

[TommyDee]

there is more to this little tale than meets the eye, which is why we didnt run it in our new today.

his room was turned over and no porn pics found. but he was also photographed semi naked during the raid which may indicate he was "caught" or may not

at this point he may or may not have porn stuff on his phone, no one knows

he Was,at least until recently a WS walkin St vol. tour. cop

if he is a pedo, shoot his whatits off, with all our blessings, in fact i will pull the trigger..but at least be sure, as they are very hard to sew back on again when full of lead.

So really...they have nothing? Being naked in your own house...what's the world coming to......

to be fair, its all 90% conjecture but he probably did something to bring the police down on him. our point was, after quite a debat ehere, that the rports were worded in such a way that they could be read 2 ways. and the photos of his home raid showed nothing untowrd found at all. which brings you down to porn on his phone, which is illegal, even on a pc in thailand

Edited August 11, 2013 by Rimmer
Quote fixed

[OKF]

....and User Carthago.... is right...I have experienced 50+ Farangs approaching 23 to 30 year old Thai friends of mine in a night club asking them 'how much' and it not happened only once....also a 60 and 40 year old are of different generation for sure but of course habe some sort if experience but often you find here 40 to 60 year old guys with 20-30 year old dors not matter boy or girl...all similar....