Pattaya Tourist Police arrest German fake policeman and suspected child molester

[Amras]

there is more to this little tale than meets the eye, which is why we didnt run it in our new today.

his room was turned over and no porn pics found. but he was also photographed semi naked during the raid which may indicate he was "caught" or may not

at this point he may or may not have porn stuff on his phone, no one knows

he Was,at least until recently a WS walkin St vol. tour. cop

if he is a pedo, shoot his whatits off, with all our blessings, in fact i will pull the trigger..but at least be sure, as they are very hard to sew back on again when full of lead.

So really...they have nothing? Being naked in your own house...what's the world coming to......

to be fair, its all 90% conjecture but he probably did something to bring the police down on him. our point was, after quite a debat ehere, that the rports were worded in such a way that they could be read 2 ways. and the photos of his home raid showed nothing untowrd found at all. which brings you down to porn on his phone, which is illegal, even on a pc in thailand

Hmm..illegal on a PC in a foreigners private residence. But 'legal with bribes' to be sold on the street in plain view of everyone, all around the country and owned at home by many many Thai's and on their phones, laptops, computers etc.

This seems like they have nothing (when they do, we all know the police are happy to show their evidence), but have to stick him with something, otherwise it will now be a public embarrassment.

[brewsterbudgen]

Question is, would you be ok with your daughter, in her early 20's dating a man your same age? (assuming you have one) . I'm really curious.(this is an honest question)..how do you relate to her?. I'd only be 7 years older than her...and unless she's quite educated, opinionated and open minded, even I'd have trouble relating to her. Unless of course, you enjoy watching Lakorn and Thai TV and reading Thai magazines....then maybe...

Not entirely off topic....there is only a legal barrier between someone engaging in a sexual relationship with someone 15-17 and someone 18. The moral barrier, is quite a different one. .

I don't have children but I like to think I'd be happy for my daughter to do whatever made her happy.

My relationship might not be considered normal from a western perspective, but it suits us. My GF has met my family and spent Christmas with my sister and my 22 year old niece and 18 year old nephew in Hua Hin. We all got on fine.

People should just be a little less judgmental about other people's relationships.

Edited August 10, 2013 by brewsterbudgen

[catweazle]

its odd that they allow another German fake policeman to operate, I have reported him a number of times to the Tourist police in Walking Street and they laugh at me. they know who he is because he used to be one of them. Im just grateful that my landlord didnt let him into my room to steal my things when he waved his fake ID in his face, and also grateful that he was fired for breaking into my room the first time, but I still dont see why they think its funny that he is still operating with fake ID

Think it might be a good idea to go to the police now again so they can file yet another case (yours) against him. Great would also be if your story gets out in the open as it might make the (back then) laughing, ignorant idiot cops more alert if any future reports and complaints (whomever or whatever the subjects of those complaints might be) come in.

I'm happy for you that they have im in custody now and hope that it gives you some kind of closure. As for the culprit - may he receive a sentence that fits the crime. I'm quite certain that he will have a hard time (literally) at Bangkok Hilton. People like him are bottom of the food chain in any prison. Thus his future will not be bright, but very painful

[CarthagoDelendaEst]

I do consider my country being civilized though I have to think about whether I would call the USA civilized because sometimes I have mydoubts e.g. in several states you still have death penalty which in my opinion is not civilized, to me it is barbaric....I feel that is something Europe did overcome ages ago....it is a question of humanity...and looking at all the morons in the US going on about Jesus, Christianty and so on...get real...just only a few thoughts into the round...you know....

I not expect people that think death penalty is the right punishment understand the principle of humantiy and being civilized...actually to understand a bit about Buddhismn that will teach you (I mean the real one)....

Another cheap cop-out. Europe just swaps out the death penalty for life imprisonment, which is the SAME thing, it's still killing their life. One just has the mercy to put them out of their misery faster. By the way, people who are imprisoned for life have very high rates of suicide, so giving them that verdict often results in them killing themselves. Basically you're just too cowardly to pull the trigger yourself, so you just want to hide them away from society for the rest of their lives despite that costing millions of euros to do, whereas a bullet is not even a euro.

Life without possibility of parole is the same thing as the death penalty. You have taken away their life, you just put them in a box, feed them, and wait for them to die. Many studies have shown a quick and efficient death penalty is the greatest deterrent to crime. Executions often save lives by deterring crime.

And really, if you don't believe in God, then you should believe in evolution, which teaches that the best way to remove unwanted traits from a species is to eliminate those who have them.

You were just criticizing Hitler, the atheist who basically used Darwinism as his excuse to sterilize the mentally infirm, and euthanize the elderly, etc. The value system you speak of when you say "humanity and being civilized" comes from the Judeo-Christian society you live in.

Atheism has so far only given birth to Communism, Social Darwinism (which led to Nazism), and other horrors which are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions.

[Bagwan]

It seems to me that the <deleted> young are out in force in this thread spouting their immature and ill considered opinions about how those senior, and usually far wiser and generally more considerate than they, should live their lives. Why is it more offensive for a say, 60 year old, who can still get it up, to enter into a commercial arrangement with a willing young filly than a fella in his twenties who no doubt considers himself living in a body beautiful? Isn't the younger guy also exploiting? What is more shameful than a young man having to pay for his jollies? Isn't that an admission that they are not attractive in any possible way or definition and cannot trap a young lady by their personal qualities? Pots and kettles comes to mind.

In their undeveloped minds using their limited life experience are they suggesting that age has nothing to do with sex drive? Do they think that their parents shut up shop just because they were no longer in the first bloom of youth? Do they lack the imagination to think positive so that when they encounter a couple with a significant number of years spent between them ever think Wow! I've got another 30 or so years to satisfy my sexual urges (if I can afford it)? Do they find the competition from more experienced swains too much to handle? Have they ever considered that a pay for play lady might rather settle for an older guy who does not want, or is able, to violate them several times a night? Do their own insecurities drive them to attempt to score points over those in their twilight years? Look everybody - see how clever I am. disrespecting people who have avoided or dealt with life's challenges. and survived.

To return to the theme of this thread, the age of a guy having a sexual relationship with an under age girl is not a mitigating factor. It is still wrong. When a girl reaches the age of discretion, as provided by law, it is her choice with whom she consorts - and none of your damn business.

[CarthagoDelendaEst]

It seems to me that the <deleted> young are out in force in this thread spouting their immature and ill considered opinions about how those senior, and usually far wiser and generally more considerate than they, should live their lives. Why is it more offensive for a say, 60 year old, who can still get it up, to enter into a commercial arrangement with a willing young filly than a fella in his twenties who no doubt considers himself living in a body beautiful? Isn't the younger guy also exploiting?

Really? are you for real? Seems the old perverts are out in force too.

Funny how the only ones getting defensive on this threat are precisely these old perverts. You don't see any young twenty something rise to the defense of people old enough to be their grandparents dating people younger than them. Why? Because it's wrong.

That you cannot see how a 60 year old who would "enter into a commercial arrangement" (prostitution) with girls young enough to be his granddaughter is wrong is mind boggling.

You really can't see the difference??? Between a man near the end of his life scarring a young girl for the rest of hers with his old saggy body (which she does because she needs the money) and between a normal relationship between people of similar age based on love and mutual attraction?

Why are you defensive? Have you really not accepted you live an immoral lifestyle? I thought the guys frequenting prostitution joints had already conceded they are not moral people....

[Amras]

It seems to me that the <deleted> young are out in force in this thread spouting their immature and ill considered opinions about how those senior, and usually far wiser and generally more considerate than they, should live their lives. Why is it more offensive for a say, 60 year old, who can still get it up, to enter into a commercial arrangement with a willing young filly than a fella in his twenties who no doubt considers himself living in a body beautiful? Isn't the younger guy also exploiting? What is more shameful than a young man having to pay for his jollies? Isn't that an admission that they are not attractive in any possible way or definition and cannot trap a young lady by their personal qualities? Pots and kettles comes to mind.

In their undeveloped minds using their limited life experience are they suggesting that age has nothing to do with sex drive? Do they think that their parents shut up shop just because they were no longer in the first bloom of youth? Do they lack the imagination to think positive so that when they encounter a couple with a significant number of years spent between them ever think Wow! I've got another 30 or so years to satisfy my sexual urges (if I can afford it)? Do they find the competition from more experienced swains too much to handle? Have they ever considered that a pay for play lady might rather settle for an older guy who does not want, or is able, to violate them several times a night? Do their own insecurities drive them to attempt to score points over those in their twilight years? Look everybody - see how clever I am. disrespecting people who have avoided or dealt with life's challenges. and survived.

To return to the theme of this thread, the age of a guy having a sexual relationship with an under age girl is not a mitigating factor. It is still wrong. When a girl reaches the age of discretion, as provided by law, it is her choice with whom she consorts - and none of your dam_n business.

Sigh....who said us 'fellas in our 20's' need to pay for it? No one said that. I could go out and find someone easily without needing to exchange money and it's easy to quickly see which ones are after money. That (generally) can't be said for those in their 50' or 60's. There is a big difference.

Biologically (something I know a bit about) age does have everything to do with sex drive. Men peak during their teenage years to mid 20's. Women on the other hand peak around their 30's. As men age, their testosterone decreases, so does their muscle mass, fat increase and on and on. Now you can offset this, by exercise, but your testosterone (which is responsible for your sex drive) is still lower than it was when you were much younger, it's biology. Hence a thing called Viagra and hormone replacement therapy for older men. Of course there are exceptions, and people still have a drive anyway when they are older. But many people it dwindles, significantly (this is not theory,its medical fact).

"Do they find the competition from more experienced swains too much to handle? Have they ever considered that a pay for play lady might rather settle for an older guy who does not want, or is able, to violate them several times a night? ",

The only time I'd ever find it competition is if it was about money. And in that case, I'd be happy to find someone else. The later...if you are violating your 'ladies' then sure...maybe they are sick of being violated. But then..if they consider it being violated, then clearly it's all about the money and nothing else. Many people will settle for someone to take care of them (here) and their family. I honestly would question my relationship if that was the case.....(but that's just me, some people are ignorantly happy and that's for them to decide).

"Look everybody - see how clever I am. disrespecting people who have avoided or dealt with life's challenges. and survived."

It's not disrespect it's a clear difference in opinion on morals (something that is very different to what's legal). That's perfectly acceptable. Most people would also find it immoral for someone to sleep with another that was young enough to be their daughter.

When a girl reaches the age of discretion, as provided by law, it is her choice with whom she consorts - and none of your dam_n business.

That's a cop out. Could you do the same back home in the west....surely not. Unless you were a multi-millionaire. There always has to be a clear legal age of consent (for drinking, sex, driving etc). That does not mean it is morally right. Only that law allows it. We are discussing the morality of it.

As to the OP, looks as though they have NO evidence of anything. Except possession of pornography. Yet, if the people on here were the judges' he would already be executed.

[balo]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth? 

 

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age .

So you are in your 20's yourself ?

Just wait until you turn 50 and then you will change your mind about this.

Even in the western world you will find healthy relationships between a 50 year old and someone 20 years younger.

You just need to grow up first.

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[Amras]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age .

So you are in your 20's yourself ?

Just wait until you turn 50 and then you will change your mind about this.

Even in the western world you will find healthy relationships between a 50 year old and someone 20 years younger.

You just need to grow up first.

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50 and 30 is still a big difference between 50 and 18-20. 18-20 year olds have NO life experience, especially Thai's (rare exception of highly educated, travelled people with wealthy families). Even though, these are not the girls these foreigners are with. Most people quickly mature in their 20's into very functional adults. It's the decade of greatest growth and development for people. A 20 year old and a 30 year old are very very different.

[tonyboy33]

WOW Pattaya Police arrested 2 Fake Pedo Cops - one Thai and one Anglo-German - PattayaOne News is running both stories - the fake Thai Cop was carrying a BB Gun and a walkie talkie and sexually abused young girls

A 28 year old Pattaya Police Volunteer was arrested in the early hours of Saturday after the father of a 14 year old girl reported the volunteer was in a sexual relationship with her.

The volunteer, named as Khun Don, was arrested in front of the Poipet Market in Soi Neun Plub Wan in East Pattaya. He was in uniform and was carrying a two-way radio and a BB Gun.

The Father of the girl was unhappy after hearing about the relationship and told Police that it was affecting his daughters schooling as she opted to see Khun Don rather than attend school on numerous occasions. It is thought the pair were in a relationship for at-least 4 months had engaged in sexual intercourse at-least twice.

The Police Volunteer was arrested and charged with sexual offences with a minor under the age of 15. The case will be heard in Court in due course.

- See more at: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/98542/pattaya-police-volunteer-sexual-relationship-14-year-girl/#sthash.DJ2HweUy.dpuf

He's probably out on bail by now, as 'Due course' can mean 'when we have a slow day in the court system'. As well, he does have needs!!

[dao16]

@morpho: I think you forgot a lot to tell about your country, a lot....As an American you have no reason, but no reason at all to point your finger at anybody in this world....I am German and I am surely not proud of what happened in my country in tne past and buy the way 'he' was not elected by the people....please be careful what you publicly state as this is quite a bit more complex issue...however it is not the issue here so why are you getting polemic(?).... I do consider my country being civilized though I have to think about whether I would call the USA civilized because sometimes I have mydoubts e.g. in several states you still have death penalty which in my opinion is not civilized, to me it is barbaric....I feel that is something Europe did overcome ages ago....it is a question of humanity...and looking at all the morons in the US going on about Jesus, Christianty and so on...get real...just only a few thoughts into the round...you know....

I not expect people that think death penalty is the right punishment understand the principle of humantiy and being civilized...actually to understand a bit about Buddhismn that will teach you (I mean the real one)....

Read the post. He criticized a number of countries, including the US. Germany wasn't a particular target.

So, cut out the nationalism and read the posts.

[CarthagoDelendaEst]

It seems to me that the <deleted> young are out in force in this thread spouting their immature and ill considered opinions about how those senior, and usually far wiser and generally more considerate than they, should live their lives. Why is it more offensive for a say, 60 year old, who can still get it up, to enter into a commercial arrangement with a willing young filly than a fella in his twenties who no doubt considers himself living in a body beautiful? Isn't the younger guy also exploiting?

Really? are you for real? Seems the old perverts are out in force too.

Funny how the only ones getting defensive on this threat are precisely these old perverts. You don't see any young twenty something rise to the defense of people old enough to be their grandparents dating people younger than them. Why? Because it's wrong.

That you cannot see how a 60 year old who would "enter into a commercial arrangement" (prostitution) with girls young enough to be his granddaughter is wrong is mind boggling.

You really can't see the difference??? Between a man near the end of his life scarring a young girl for the rest of hers with his old saggy body (which she does because she needs the money) and between a normal relationship between people of similar age based on love and mutual attraction?

Why are you defensive? Have you really not accepted you live an immoral lifestyle? I thought the guys frequenting prostitution joints had already conceded they are not moral people....

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.you still live at home mr insecure,you really are boring,sorry i meant repetitive...as the man said thank god for..... aetheism...shouldnt you be out at your age or you grounded ..nite..what story your mum reading you tonight..please bite...

Are you insane? I obviously live in Thailand alone. I brought up an issue only someone who has traveled to Thailand would know about (the shocking number of old perverts exploiting young girls) I've been living across Asia for many years, more than a decade. And you're obviously the insecure one, you think pretending to be bored and laughing makes you somehow right?

And it's spelled "atheism", at least learn to spell your own beliefs. And it's quite obvious you're the insecure one, you just didn't want to explicitly defend your behavior. I have nothing to be insecure about. You make it sound like being a young man is a bad thing (despite you yourself using these insults to try to defend preying on younger females), whereas I can see why an old geezer who has to pay a woman to be with him would be insecure...

Even if you're an atheist it's still evolutionary wrong. Humans are naturally programmed for monogamy (male to female ratio is roughly 1:1, only 1 genitalia, etc.) or at the very least polygamy (certain primates are polygamous).

What about the older females? What if EVERY guy just embraced the carnal and threw out their females when they age past 40? It would result in massive hardship for females. It's often a ticking time bomb for women approaching 30 because of such a mindset in Asia where older men don't date women their age. At least if there was polygamy perhaps the old guy would still take care of the old wife while mating with a younger one, but in this society for some reason polygamy is banned but every other form of sexual depravity is allowed....

In addition, it's evolutionary backwards to have infertile older men taking young women, since there is a fertile guy somewhere who is alone in such an equation (since the male/female ratio is roughly 1:1). So basically in that equation there is 1 couple where there should be 2 (only an old male/young female, when there should be an old couple and a young couple). It also causes all sorts of societal problems.

And if the old guy DOES manage to get the younger girl pregnant, the chances are much higher the child will be mentally challenged or physically deformed as the DNA passed on gets worse the older you are.

[CarthagoDelendaEst]

On the other hand, if he is guilty of molestation, then cut them off, stuff them in his mouth and sew his lips shut before sending him to the BKK Hilton, where he will receive a warm welcome.

So for a twenty-something in a consensual relationship with a 14 year old, a relationship that would of been perfectly legal had he waited a year longer to date her, cut off his balls and stuff them in his mouth?

Meanwhile many of the people on this thread (perhaps yourself?) are old geezers (50+) who exploit 18 year olds a fraction of their age .

So you are in your 20's yourself ?

Just wait until you turn 50 and then you will change your mind about this.

Even in the western world you will find healthy relationships between a 50 year old and someone 20 years younger.

You just need to grow up first.

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Some people don't throw out their wives when they turn 40.

And you tell me to grow up? I thought being responsible for a family is what "growing up" means. Not dividing that family when the wife no longer meets your standards because she aged. Or if you don't get married, then being an eternal bachelor who lives only for pleasure isn't exactly "grown up" either as it implies a lack of responsibility.

In your equation, you basically divorce your wife, abandon your first set of children, then run off with some younger foreign girl, who god forbid, if you get her pregnant, you'll often die before your new set of children reach their teens, and she's left an unwanted single mother in Thailand who is ostracized from society. Meanwhile your ex-wife from America is left embittered and your old children think abandoning their children is just normal for fathers to do since you did it to them and so the cycle repeats.

Job well done there Mr. Grown Up!

Personally I prefer to think of people like my parents, happilly married for 40 years and never divorced, are the real "grown ups".

[inmemorylsx]

I will never understand these people with urges for children. Very sad. They should seek help as the kids are defenseless and hopefully they could be helped before hurting more people or going to extreme lengths to pretend to be a cop?

Good job done by the Thai Police! Glad to see this.

Thailand is beautiful, great people and food. I love traveling there for those reasons.

Upsetting when people take advantage of youth in this way.

[Docno]

I do consider my country being civilized though I have to think about whether I would call the USA civilized because sometimes I have mydoubts e.g. in several states you still have death penalty which in my opinion is not civilized, to me it is barbaric....I feel that is something Europe did overcome ages ago....it is a question of humanity...and looking at all the morons in the US going on about Jesus, Christianty and so on...get real...just only a few thoughts into the round...you know....

I not expect people that think death penalty is the right punishment understand the principle of humantiy and being civilized...actually to understand a bit about Buddhismn that will teach you (I mean the real one)....

Another cheap cop-out. Europe just swaps out the death penalty for life imprisonment, which is the SAME thing, it's still killing their life. One just has the mercy to put them out of their misery faster. By the way, people who are imprisoned for life have very high rates of suicide, so giving them that verdict often results in them killing themselves. Basically you're just too cowardly to pull the trigger yourself, so you just want to hide them away from society for the rest of their lives despite that costing millions of euros to do, whereas a bullet is not even a euro.

Life without possibility of parole is the same thing as the death penalty. You have taken away their life, you just put them in a box, feed them, and wait for them to die. Many studies have shown a quick and efficient death penalty is the greatest deterrent to crime. Executions often save lives by deterring crime.

And really, if you don't believe in God, then you should believe in evolution, which teaches that the best way to remove unwanted traits from a species is to eliminate those who have them.

You were just criticizing Hitler, the atheist who basically used Darwinism as his excuse to sterilize the mentally infirm, and euthanize the elderly, etc. The value system you speak of when you say "humanity and being civilized" comes from the Judeo-Christian society you live in.

Atheism has so far only given birth to Communism, Social Darwinism (which led to Nazism), and other horrors which are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions.

"Europe just swaps out the death penalty for life imprisonment, which is the SAME thing, it's still killing their life."

Utterly wrong. Life sentences are reversible, death is not. A fair number of people (having committed various crimes) have had their sentences overturned when new evidence emerged at a later date ... advances in DNA tech, someone else confesses, etc. But there's no turning back if the individual has already been executed.

[Docno]

As for the posters here who are criticizing men in their 40s, 50s, or 60s for dating women in their 20s (and using offensive terms like "geezers"), I make the following points:

1. There is a world of difference between a 20yrs-50yrs (woman-man) relationship and 14yrs-44yrs 'relationship', legally and morally. The legal distinction is based on the notion that both partners must be consenting adults, and society dictates that a 14yr-old generally is not developed enough to freely and fully consent to such a situation. Most 20 year-olds can, however, think for themselves and so a relationship with a 60 year old man is no more 'exploitative' than one with a 25-year-old man. How could it be?
2. One 30-year-old poster here has asked what a 50-year-old would have in common with a 20-year-old. Maybe he needs to wait another 20 years to realise that just because you're 50 or 60 doesn't mean you can't relate to people in their 20s. My gf and I met when she was 28 and I was 48 (four years back) ... we have a great time, I can do more laps at the track than her, I know all the music she knows, I can stay on the dance floor longer than her etc etc. And even if I were physically inferior to her, there would no difference in how we connect. As I move into my 50s, I've learned that we're still that 20-30 year-old inside, albeit with a little more knowledge of life.
3. I've talked to a number of women (as friends, not potential partners) from a number of Asian countries about this issue. Most have told me they prefer an older man because they believe them to be less prone to violence, less likely to 'butterfly', and generally more respectful and gentle. I don't know how valid these beliefs are, but this is what they believe.
4. Finally, it is incredibly shallow to suggest that there is something wrong with two fully mature and consenting adults (e.g., 25/45) to have a relationship when they differ in age by 20+ years. You are basically saying that love is impossible when one person has more wrinkles or grey hair than the other. That's the pinnacle of shallowness...

Anyway, that's just how I see it.

[Whidbeyboy]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

Need treatment for a disease, right . It's that kind of thinking that pedophiles thrive on and let's them out on the street to reoffend. I am tired of type of liberal BS. Lock them up and throw away the key. If it is a disease then it's untreatable and they can be quarantined for life

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[Whidbeyboy]

As for the posters here who are criticizing men in their 40s, 50s, or 60s for dating women in their 20s (and using offensive terms like "geezers"), I make the following points:

• There is a world of difference between a 20yrs-50yrs (woman-man) relationship and 14yrs-44yrs 'relationship', legally and morally. The legal distinction is based on the notion that both partners must be consenting adults, and society dictates that a 14yr-old generally is not developed enough to freely and fully consent to such a situation. Most 20 year-olds can, however, think for themselves and so a relationship with a 60 year old man is no more 'exploitative' than one with a 25-year-old man. How could it be?
• One 30-year-old poster here has asked what a 50-year-old would have in common with a 20-year-old. Maybe he needs to wait another 20 years to realise that just because you're 50 or 60 doesn't mean you can't relate to people in their 20s. My gf and I met when she was 28 and I was 48 (four years back) ... we have a great time, I can do more laps at the track than her, I know all the music she knows, I can stay on the dance floor longer than her etc etc. And even if I were physically inferior to her, there would no difference in how we connect. As I move into my 50s, I've learned that we're still that 20-30 year-old inside, albeit with a little more knowledge of life.
• I've talked to a number of women (as friends, not potential partners) from a number of Asian countries about this issue. Most have told me they prefer an older man because they believe them to be less prone to violence, less likely to 'butterfly', and generally more respectful and gentle. I don't know how valid these beliefs are, but this is what they believe.
• Finally, it is incredibly shallow to suggest that there is something wrong with two fully mature and consenting adults (e.g., 25/45) to have a relationship when they differ in age by 20+ years. You are basically saying that love is impossible when one person has more wrinkles or grey hair than the other. That's the pinnacle of shallowness...

Anyway, that's just how I see it.

I promise that when these idiots are "geezers" they will not hesitate to spend time with a younger woman. They are just hypocrites. In the US as anywhere older men date younger women all the time. Usually they have money and can afford it. Then the idiots say. God, what a lucky guy.

In Thailand even poorer geezers can have young ladies. But that bothers some aholes for unknown reasons. Maybe jealousy.

[Whidbeyboy]

I do consider my country being civilized though I have to think about whether I would call the USA civilized because sometimes I have mydoubts e.g. in several states you still have death penalty which in my opinion is not civilized, to me it is barbaric....I feel that is something Europe did overcome ages ago....it is a question of humanity...and looking at all the morons in the US going on about Jesus, Christianty and so on...get real...just only a few thoughts into the round...you know....

I not expect people that think death penalty is the right punishment understand the principle of humantiy and being civilized...actually to understand a bit about Buddhismn that will teach you (I mean the real one)....

Another cheap cop-out. Europe just swaps out the death penalty for life imprisonment, which is the SAME thing, it's still killing their life. One just has the mercy to put them out of their misery faster. By the way, people who are imprisoned for life have very high rates of suicide, so giving them that verdict often results in them killing themselves. Basically you're just too cowardly to pull the trigger yourself, so you just want to hide them away from society for the rest of their lives despite that costing millions of euros to do, whereas a bullet is not even a euro.

Life without possibility of parole is the same thing as the death penalty. You have taken away their life, you just put them in a box, feed them, and wait for them to die. Many studies have shown a quick and efficient death penalty is the greatest deterrent to crime. Executions often save lives by deterring crime.

And really, if you don't believe in God, then you should believe in evolution, which teaches that the best way to remove unwanted traits from a species is to eliminate those who have them.

You were just criticizing Hitler, the atheist who basically used Darwinism as his excuse to sterilize the mentally infirm, and euthanize the elderly, etc. The value system you speak of when you say "humanity and being civilized" comes from the Judeo-Christian society you live in.

Atheism has so far only given birth to Communism, Social Darwinism (which led to Nazism), and other horrors which are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions.

"Europe just swaps out the death penalty for life imprisonment, which is the SAME thing, it's still killing their life."

Utterly wrong. Life sentences are reversible, death is not. A fair number of people (having committed various crimes) have had their sentences overturned when new evidence emerged at a later date ... advances in DNA tech, someone else confesses, etc. But there's no turning back if the individual has already been executed.

[Dr Strange]

...but unless they specifically show him, or can clearly identify him, the most he could be charged with is possession of kiddie porn. Bad enough in itself, but not as serious as actually being a molester himself.

WRONG.

Even by downloading/collecting child porn, you are as guilty a part of the chain of abuse as the person doing the abusing in the images/videos. If there were not people wanting to collect such images/video, then there would not be people in Ukraine/Thailand/South America etc making such images and videos. Stamp out the demand end of the chain and you stamp out the supply end.

[Dr Strange]

I will never understand these people with urges for children. Very sad. They should seek help as the kids are defenseless and hopefully they could be helped before hurting more people or going to extreme lengths to pretend to be a cop?

Good job done by the Thai Police! Glad to see this.

Thailand is beautiful, great people and food. I love traveling there for those reasons.

Upsetting when people take advantage of youth in this way.

Yet we act all aggrieved and righteous when stories like this appear, and celebrate (rightly) that another abuser has been caught. Yet (much like the sex trade in Thailand) the 'Western paedophiles' are the tip of the sex abuse iceberg there. Would prefer to see more stories on Thailand taking real action against the HUGE amount of inter familial abuse in Thai families, especially in rural areas.

Edited August 10, 2013 by Dr Strange

[Dr Strange]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

Need treatment for a disease, right . It's that kind of thinking that pedophiles thrive on and let's them out on the street to reoffend. I am tired of type of liberal BS. Lock them up and throw away the key. If it is a disease then it's untreatable and they can be quarantined for life

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Even in this (sensitive) subject, such sweeping and ill informed generations are unnecessary and do not work. Some sex offenders CAN be treated. But some will never changed. It's why there are risk assessment tools, intensive programmes and close monitoring (for some) out there. But yes; some should be given life without parole.

[Bkungbank]

In some countries not just imporsonating were illegal but in here you can find similar clothing selling in Chatuchak market or a old security guard wearing quite similar uniform, standing near the road stopping cars to out of apartment.

[dighambara]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

Civilized..?? Not many on this planet..!!

However, a German National who can actually pass as a Thai Policeman and speaks Thai fluently, sounds like 'Luke Krueng' to me, which means he has dual nationality.

As for pretending to be Police - that is a Thai National pastime. Has Thai Police paraphenalia that can be bought anywhere..?? And has Porno which is common on the internet.

Hmmm - his big crime is that he said he was a cop and the cops caught him - he should just pay them off and join the force then he would no longer be committing a crime.

[Doc46]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

Rock Spiders,need treatment alright.Send them to jail than let the inmates know that he's a Rock Spider They WILL give them the right treatment

[Ling Kae]

It seems to me that the <deleted> young are out in force in this thread spouting their immature and ill considered opinions about how those senior, and usually far wiser and generally more considerate than they, should live their lives. Why is it more offensive for a say, 60 year old, who can still get it up, to enter into a commercial arrangement with a willing young filly than a fella in his twenties who no doubt considers himself living in a body beautiful? Isn't the younger guy also exploiting?

Really? are you for real? Seems the old perverts are out in force too.

Funny how the only ones getting defensive on this threat are precisely these old perverts. You don't see any young twenty something rise to the defense of people old enough to be their grandparents dating people younger than them. Why? Because it's wrong.

That you cannot see how a 60 year old who would "enter into a commercial arrangement" (prostitution) with girls young enough to be his granddaughter is wrong is mind boggling.

You really can't see the difference??? Between a man near the end of his life scarring a young girl for the rest of hers with his old saggy body (which she does because she needs the money) and between a normal relationship between people of similar age based on love and mutual attraction?

Why are you defensive? Have you really not accepted you live an immoral lifestyle? I thought the guys frequenting prostitution joints had already conceded they are not moral people....

I can't see anything wrong at all when a 60 or 70 yo enters a relationship with a 20 or 30 yo. In most cases around Pattaya the younger girls will do anything they can to secure a relationship with an older man. It ends up a win win situation, he ends up seeing his life out with a beautiful woman he loves and she ends up with some serious bahts to make her life and families life better. I've seen many a happy older guy and young Thai lady relationship.

If I was 60 and faced with a choice of living in a room in an expensive, freezing cold, lonely farangland sh!thole or the Thai choice above I would be buying my plane ticket and be on the first flight out to Thailand.

Maybe the people whining here about older guys and younger girls are just jealous, well guess what? none of these guys give a toss what you think. It is their life after all.

[Rimmer]

Some off topic posts removed, when I re checked the topic content because they were so far off topic I can indeed confirm it is about:

A 32 year old German National who is accused of impersonating a Police Officer and of molesting children under the age of 15

Please stay on topic, thank you.

[Ling Kae]

I am happy to come from a civillized country and I am happy that in my country people are put jail once the are convicted a crime. This article does not really implement a 'crime' apart from maybe having been a false police man and he having some porn on his computer or similar and even that unclear. So why again someone here probably claiming that he may come from a civillized country want to put someone in jail first, why want the guy in question to be treated in uncivillized way? Maybe some people here lived to long in some strange environment....Do not get me wrong...I am not supporting people that do molest children...but again be appropriate...peadophile people I consider sick and they need treatment...unfortunately it not take a lot of effort form them in some parts of Thailand to be successful.

This guy has committed 3 crimes.

1. He has an invalid visa

2. He impersonated a Police Officer

3. He had child porn on his phone

Is that not enough to lock him up?

4. The more serious case of child molestation has not been proved yet. If it is then he should be locked up in a Thai jail for a very long time.

Edited August 11, 2013 by Ling Kae

[Rimmer]

More off topic removed

[petercool]

As indicated by Tommy Dee and myself in earlier posts, there is some history and background to the guy over and above what he may have been charged with thus far. All that may never come out in media but such background is well established and my own view is that he was marked for that and finally caught on the three charges they can talk about.