PM Cameron to make British welfare off limits to migrants

[Jay Sata]

The difference between myself and 7by7 is I believe in the Australian immigration model which is controlled.

The £18600 threshold for a spouse to arrive in the UK is fair but he wants no threshold.

What we saw under Labour was a massive influx of economic migrants mostly from the Indian subcon who have turned some parts of

the UK in to state sponsored ghettos.

[Totster]

The notion that immigrants are entering the UK and then breeding like rabbits just to claim benefits is so ludicrous that it does not deserve further mention.

Your words, not mine.

totster

[7by7]

Do you not realise that foreign folk creep into the UK, have a child SO EVERYTHING is then on a UK plate. I have HEARD it from those who have done it.

This is exactly my point before, there are immigrants coming that know how to work the system, it's planned out.. their intention is to have kids, get them into the system who will then become the next generation of immigrant scroungers and dossers. They play the long game, and play it well.

totster

It is well known that many Pakistani families make sure their sons marry a girl from Pakistan, thus opening up the path for another family branch to eventually settle. This is a concerted effort and is done for the very purpose of allowing the maximum members of a family to settle in the UK - and when they have done their 5 years , BOOM, lets get benefits

I suggest that you contact Admin as a matter of urgency; it appears your account has been hacked!

Edited to fix messed up quote box.

[7by7]

The difference between myself and 7by7 is I believe in the Australian immigration model which is controlled.

The £18600 threshold for a spouse to arrive in the UK is fair but he wants no threshold.

What we saw under Labour was a massive influx of economic migrants mostly from the Indian subcon who have turned some parts of

the UK in to state sponsored ghettos.

Their are many differences between you and I; thank God.

But in this context the main one is that I know something of the UK immigration rules whereas you know nothing.

As a read of our respective posts in the Visa forum will show.

Edit, kindly show us where I have ever said that there should be no financial threshold for UK settlement. When you have failed to do so, withdraw that remark.

What I have said is that the threshold should be lower and take account of outgoings as well as income.

[samran]

The difference between myself and 7by7 is I believe in the Australian immigration model which is controlled.

The £18600 threshold for a spouse to arrive in the UK is fair but he wants no threshold.

What we saw under Labour was a massive influx of economic migrants mostly from the Indian subcon who have turned some parts of

the UK in to state sponsored ghettos.

and there you go, you've let the cat out of the bag.

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'You believe'...is all about perceptions isn't it? Australia just had an election where a so-called lax border policy was front and centre. Fact of the matter is, it is all spin to scare the more feeble minded amongst us (present company excepted of course...).

So by a 'controlled' immigration model you mean an annual intake of (roughly off the top of my head):

- 180,000 permanent migrants per year (both skilled migration and family reunion).

- 50,000 odd working holiday makers each year

- another 100,000 temporary working visa's granted (many of whom go onto PR)

- another 50,000-odd thousand New Zealanders who are entitled to come and go as they please in Australia.

- 20,000 refugee intake.

Those from the NZ, UK, Ireland and a bunch of EU countries also have automatic access to Australia's version of the NHS and those who get PR get it automatically.

So what you are advocating is an immigration system which lets in 400,000 people per year (give or take) who's habitable land mass is probably 5% of the total land mass and for an economy much smaller than the UK's.

So 400,000 new migrants each year for the UK as well, pro-rated up given your larger economy is what you've advocated?

[Scott]

Please stick to the topic and refrain from the unnecessarily snide remarks directed at one another.

[MAJIC]

I'm sorry but the Daily Express or the Daily Telegraph or The Times or the Socialist Worker are not independently recognised sources of valid statistics. Newspapers of all political persuasions make things up. They all have agendas and are not to be trusted.

I see that you're talking about a 'race of people'. What race would that be? Why do you need to mention 'race' when we're talking about immigration? Presumably Eastern Europeans who belong to the same 'race' as you and I (i.e they have white skins) are acceptable? Or not?

The internet is awash with many things. Most of them are b0llocks. I'm happier with genuine evidence and verifiable facts.

"I see that you're talking about a 'race of people'. What race would that be? Why do you need to mention 'race' when we're talking about immigration? Presumably Eastern Europeans who belong to the same 'race' as you and I (i.e they have white skins) are acceptable? Or not"

Can you point out where I quoted any of the the above statement according to you?

[MAJIC]

As Mr. Sata, Majic, and others who share their opinions are so opposed to immigrants living in the UK I can only assume that they include their wives or partners in this and will be immediately shipping them back to Thailand.

They wont be joining them, of course, as they would then be foreigners living in another country and they are wholeheartedly against such a thing.

Of course, they'll say that it's OK for their wife or partner to live in the UK, OK for them to access the NHS, OK for their step children, if any, to go to a state school because they work and pay taxes.

Just like the vast majority of all other immigrants, in fact.

This is a topic about Cameron's 'promise' to cut benefits for immigrants. An empty promise because an immigrant's access to benefits is already severely limited.

But Sata, Majic etc. prefer to believe misleading articles in the press rather than official publications stating the actual law.

Also, Majic is trying to turn it into something else, as his reference to race shows.

Perhaps Majic will tell us which races he finds acceptable?

Sata, of course, is playing his usual game. The only surprise is that we are 5 pages in and he hasn't yet mentioned how well off he is or posted about his extensive world travels!

7by7 This is long overdue to bring to your attention,but I must now point out to you,that you have a clandestine annoying habit of talking about a Poster,and disguising your reply without directly addressing the Poster in question,such as your post above!

In future,would you kindly answer posts in the usual gentlemanly manner i.e to the actual intended recipient,and not aimed into the Blue yonder,whereby no notification of a response to you,is recieved by the opposing debater,and thus casting some doubt on the nature of his lack of reply! I look forward to a personal reply from you in the future.

[draftvader]

Make it reciprocal too. No access for Brits to Spanish health care of the Costa Del Yob.

Healthcare is already reciprocal regardless. This is about people coming over and holding their hand out, and Britain has been obliging to all 'n sundry for donkey's years. Don't make this about Brits taking from others.

Sorry for that. Forgive me for pointing out the stinking hypocracy in this argument.

You might want to be aware that there is a reciprocal arrangement in place for most of Europe. This means that Brits CAN access that healthcare on the "Costa Del Yob" legally. The residents of the "Costa Del Yob" can do likewise in the UK.

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcareabroad/EHIC/Pages/about-the-ehic.aspx

[sustento]

I'm sorry but the Daily Express or the Daily Telegraph or The Times or the Socialist Worker are not independently recognised sources of valid statistics. Newspapers of all political persuasions make things up. They all have agendas and are not to be trusted.

I see that you're talking about a 'race of people'. What race would that be? Why do you need to mention 'race' when we're talking about immigration? Presumably Eastern Europeans who belong to the same 'race' as you and I (i.e they have white skins) are acceptable? Or not?

The internet is awash with many things. Most of them are b0llocks. I'm happier with genuine evidence and verifiable facts.

"I see that you're talking about a 'race of people'. What race would that be? Why do you need to mention 'race' when we're talking about immigration? Presumably Eastern Europeans who belong to the same 'race' as you and I (i.e they have white skins) are acceptable? Or not"

Can you point out where I quoted any of the the above statement according to you?

"It's hard to understand why some people will spend a lot of their time on a Forum arguing a point as to why a race of people should be giving their Country away"

There you go...

[Richard W]

What sort of state would the NHS be in if it wasn't for the thousands of immigrants working for it; from cleaners all the way to top consultants?

There are actually quite a few things wrong with that state of affairs.

Foreign graduate medical staff can largely be seen as poaching from poorer countries.

At the level of cleaners, there is now a problem that unskilled native Britons are competing with smarter foreigners from eastern Europe. Moreover, these foreigners need accommodation, which further squeezes unskilled native Britons. When such foreigners in private businesses lose their jobs, it seems that quite a few would rather stick around in the UK than go back and be unemployed with lesser prospects in their home countries. It seems that some are even sleeping rough rather than go back home.

This free movement of labour is something we signed up to when we joined the EEC, and I don't remember any claims that the EEC was meant to be exclude the poorer countries of Europe. What we didn't reckon on was the unemployed of Europe being more mobile that the unemployed of Britain were.

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As to the matter of patient Thai wives ending the marriage and going on benefit as soon as they've acquired ILR, the only solution I can see is making immigrant spouses slaves to the settled spouses with deportation on separation and ILR on bereavement. I do think that the insistence on the couple's adequate financial status subsisting is wrong, and I don't think the processes to handle finances collapsing have yet been put in place.

[7by7]

Majic, if you feel that any of my posts are in anyway offensive; you know where the report button is.

I do have a direct question for Jay Sata.

Mr. Sata, you have stated in another topic that you are an Irish citizen. You have stated in tis one that your wife is Thai/American.

Therefore you are both immigrants in the UK during the periods you live here.

So my question is: why is it ok for you and your wife to live as immigrants in the UK, but according to you it is wrong for others to do so?

As you have now revealed yourself to be an immigrant from another EEA state, the stench of hypocrisy permeates all your posts.

[Jay Sata]

I'm not anti immigration and admire anyone who moves to another country and makes a go of it.

I object to those who sponge of the state via extended families and form ghettos instead of integrating.

Slough,Luton and Leicester are cities where the original population is now less than 50%.

Wisbech and Boston are overwhelmed with migrants from the former Eastern Bloc countries.

I object to family allowance being sent to support children who have never set foot in the UK.

I believe that anyone coming to the UK should demonstrate a desire to work hard,obey the law and not try and force their culture or beliefs on the resident population. If a man insists his wife should be compelled to walk around in a niqab with just a slot to see through he's migrated to the wrong place.

We see a lot of double standards every day in the UK press with regular reports of Asian gangs raping young troubled girls while claiming our society is going to the dogs.

The likes of Hamza and Abu Qatada enjoyed their cosy life living of the state while preaching hell and damnation to their hosts.

London is currently overun by Romanian begger's whose idea of employment is pick pocketing, begging and cash point scamming.

Brown and Blair nearly destroyed the UK. Cameron is having to fix it and he is doing a grand job just like Boris who is cleaning up London after the mess left by Livingstone.

[7by7]

Most of the above is nothing to do with the topic, but I'll address your points anyway.

As said before, immigrants cannot "sponge off the state." If British citizens of immigrant backgrounds or immigrants with ILR or the equivalent are having to live off benefits, so are far more white British. Yes, their are spongers, but from all races and creeds.

In some parts of the UK, immigrants and the descendants of immigrants do now outnumber white British. But many white British are themselves descended from immigrants. How far back do you want to go? Expel everyone who cannot prove by DNA that they are pure Celt?

The issue of EEA nationals claiming child benefit (not family allowance) for children who do not live with them is a thorny one; I'll grant you that. But Brits living and working in other EEA states can do the same with that state's equivalent.

All immigrants coming to the UK, whether from the EEA, using the family route or the PBS, have to either have a job to come to or show that they can be supported without recourse to state aid.

No one is trying to force their culture or beliefs on anyone; except people like you. The UK has freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Hasn't always, and it seems you want a return to the days of burning people at the stake because they have a different religion to yours!

Regular reports of Asian gangs raping white girls? Well, their was that grooming gang a short while ago. But the majority of rapes, of both children and adults, are carried out by white British men.

There are hate preachers on all sides. But we have a system of justice in this country of which I am proud; even if it does mean it takes time to deal with them.

The majority of beggars on any town or city's streets, whether genuine or professional, are British.

Whilst Blair and Brown did a lot of damage to the UK's economy, the rules and regulations which you don't believe exist pre date them by many years. Indeed, it was they who started to make immigration, particularly family immigration, harder and more expensive.

There are lot's of issues for Cameron to tackle; he should be getting on with them rather than playing to the right and UKIP by promising to fix a problem which doesn't exist.

As an Irishman who lives in the UK, maybe you should address the problems your country faces on these issues?

[samran]

I'm not anti immigration and admire anyone who moves to another country and makes a go of it.

I object to those who sponge of the state via extended families and form ghettos instead of integrating.

Slough,Luton and Leicester are cities where the original population is now less than 50%.

Wisbech and Boston are overwhelmed with migrants from the former Eastern Bloc countries.

I object to family allowance being sent to support children who have never set foot in the UK.

I believe that anyone coming to the UK should demonstrate a desire to work hard,obey the law and not try and force their culture or beliefs on the resident population. If a man insists his wife should be compelled to walk around in a niqab with just a slot to see through he's migrated to the wrong place.

We see a lot of double standards every day in the UK press with regular reports of Asian gangs raping young troubled girls while claiming our society is going to the dogs.

The likes of Hamza and Abu Qatada enjoyed their cosy life living of the state while preaching hell and damnation to their hosts.

London is currently overun by Romanian begger's whose idea of employment is pick pocketing, begging and cash point scamming.

Brown and Blair nearly destroyed the UK. Cameron is having to fix it and he is doing a grand job just like Boris who is cleaning up London after the mess left by Livingstone.

Is this the same Boris Johnson who's just proposed that the British government should go open slather on immigration to the UK by Australians? (You know Australian's of whom 250,000 live in London alone making London the 8th or 9th largest Australian city in the world..)

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/26/boris-johnson-australia-migration-exchange

I take it you speak, read and write Thai fluently and subject yourself to Thai cultural norms of showing deference to elders or those who are from higher social class than you, nor do you speak English to anyone out in public, even to other English speakers, who presumably, understand the need to speak Thai in public so people can be sure that you aren't formenting some type of dissent? I mean, people who come to Thailand should be prepared to integrate, right?

[MAJIC]

I'm sorry but the Daily Express or the Daily Telegraph or The Times or the Socialist Worker are not independently recognised sources of valid statistics. Newspapers of all political persuasions make things up. They all have agendas and are not to be trusted.

I see that you're talking about a 'race of people'. What race would that be? Why do you need to mention 'race' when we're talking about immigration? Presumably Eastern Europeans who belong to the same 'race' as you and I (i.e they have white skins) are acceptable? Or not?

The internet is awash with many things. Most of them are b0llocks. I'm happier with genuine evidence and verifiable facts.

"I see that you're talking about a 'race of people'. What race would that be? Why do you need to mention 'race' when we're talking about immigration? Presumably Eastern Europeans who belong to the same 'race' as you and I (i.e they have white skins) are acceptable? Or not"

Can you point out where I quoted any of the the above statement according to you?

"It's hard to understand why some people will spend a lot of their time on a Forum arguing a point as to why a race of people should be giving their Country away"

There you go...

In the context I used it was in no way Racial,would you rather I said British or English?

[transam]

I'm not anti immigration and admire anyone who moves to another country and makes a go of it.

I object to those who sponge of the state via extended families and form ghettos instead of integrating.

Slough,Luton and Leicester are cities where the original population is now less than 50%.

Wisbech and Boston are overwhelmed with migrants from the former Eastern Bloc countries.

I object to family allowance being sent to support children who have never set foot in the UK.

I believe that anyone coming to the UK should demonstrate a desire to work hard,obey the law and not try and force their culture or beliefs on the resident population. If a man insists his wife should be compelled to walk around in a niqab with just a slot to see through he's migrated to the wrong place.

We see a lot of double standards every day in the UK press with regular reports of Asian gangs raping young troubled girls while claiming our society is going to the dogs.

The likes of Hamza and Abu Qatada enjoyed their cosy life living of the state while preaching hell and damnation to their hosts.

London is currently overun by Romanian begger's whose idea of employment is pick pocketing, begging and cash point scamming.

Brown and Blair nearly destroyed the UK. Cameron is having to fix it and he is doing a grand job just like Boris who is cleaning up London after the mess left by Livingstone.

Is this the same Boris Johnson who's just proposed that the British government should go open slather on immigration to the UK by Australians? (You know Australian's of whom 250,000 live in London alone making London the 8th or 9th largest Australian city in the world..)

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/26/boris-johnson-australia-migration-exchange

I take it you speak, read and write Thai fluently and subject yourself to Thai cultural norms of showing deference to elders or those who are from higher social class than you, nor do you speak English to anyone out in public, even to other English speakers, who presumably, understand the need to speak Thai in public so people can be sure that you aren't formenting some type of dissent? I mean, people who come to Thailand should be prepared to integrate, right?

I am English and consider Australian folk my brothers. Brothers in arms and brothers in our beliefs and traditions.

[7by7]

Never heard of the Indian Army?

The army recruited by the British from what was then the Indian empire, it was made up of soldiers from what is now both India and Pakistan.

Soldiers from the Indian Army who died for Britain, it's beliefs and it's traditions in both world wars.

I suggest that you read up on the history of the Indian Army; this article is a good place to start.

They were our brothers in arms, too. We owe them a massive debt.

[samran]

Never heard of the Indian Army?

The army recruited by the British from what was then the Indian empire, it was made up of soldiers from what is now both India and Pakistan.

Soldiers from the Indian Army who died for Britain, it's beliefs and it's traditions in both world wars.

I suggest that you read up on the history of the Indian Army; this article is a good place to start.

They were our brothers in arms, too. We owe them a massive debt.

Yep, but they are brown, eat smelly food and someof them wear turbans. It is clearly not important that plenty of them also died at Gallipoli. Keep up will you!

[samran]

I'm not anti immigration and admire anyone who moves to another country and makes a go of it.

I object to those who sponge of the state via extended families and form ghettos instead of integrating.

Slough,Luton and Leicester are cities where the original population is now less than 50%.

Wisbech and Boston are overwhelmed with migrants from the former Eastern Bloc countries.

I object to family allowance being sent to support children who have never set foot in the UK.

I believe that anyone coming to the UK should demonstrate a desire to work hard,obey the law and not try and force their culture or beliefs on the resident population. If a man insists his wife should be compelled to walk around in a niqab with just a slot to see through he's migrated to the wrong place.

We see a lot of double standards every day in the UK press with regular reports of Asian gangs raping young troubled girls while claiming our society is going to the dogs.

The likes of Hamza and Abu Qatada enjoyed their cosy life living of the state while preaching hell and damnation to their hosts.

London is currently overun by Romanian begger's whose idea of employment is pick pocketing, begging and cash point scamming.

Brown and Blair nearly destroyed the UK. Cameron is having to fix it and he is doing a grand job just like Boris who is cleaning up London after the mess left by Livingstone.

Is this the same Boris Johnson who's just proposed that the British government should go open slather on immigration to the UK by Australians? (You know Australian's of whom 250,000 live in London alone making London the 8th or 9th largest Australian city in the world..)

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/26/boris-johnson-australia-migration-exchange

I take it you speak, read and write Thai fluently and subject yourself to Thai cultural norms of showing deference to elders or those who are from higher social class than you, nor do you speak English to anyone out in public, even to other English speakers, who presumably, understand the need to speak Thai in public so people can be sure that you aren't formenting some type of dissent? I mean, people who come to Thailand should be prepared to integrate, right?

I am English and consider Australian folk my brothers. Brothers in arms and brothers in our beliefs and traditions.

Okay, so being overrun by Australians somehow ceases to be a problem? Dole bludgers in Australia too you know.

[MAJIC]

I'm not anti immigration and admire anyone who moves to another country and makes a go of it.

I object to those who sponge of the state via extended families and form ghettos instead of integrating.

Slough,Luton and Leicester are cities where the original population is now less than 50%.

Wisbech and Boston are overwhelmed with migrants from the former Eastern Bloc countries.

I object to family allowance being sent to support children who have never set foot in the UK.

I believe that anyone coming to the UK should demonstrate a desire to work hard,obey the law and not try and force their culture or beliefs on the resident population. If a man insists his wife should be compelled to walk around in a niqab with just a slot to see through he's migrated to the wrong place.

We see a lot of double standards every day in the UK press with regular reports of Asian gangs raping young troubled girls while claiming our society is going to the dogs.

The likes of Hamza and Abu Qatada enjoyed their cosy life living of the state while preaching hell and damnation to their hosts.

London is currently overun by Romanian begger's whose idea of employment is pick pocketing, begging and cash point scamming.

Brown and Blair nearly destroyed the UK. Cameron is having to fix it and he is doing a grand job just like Boris who is cleaning up London after the mess left by Livingstone.

Is this the same Boris Johnson who's just proposed that the British government should go open slather on immigration to the UK by Australians? (You know Australian's of whom 250,000 live in London alone making London the 8th or 9th largest Australian city in the world..)

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/26/boris-johnson-australia-migration-exchange

I take it you speak, read and write Thai fluently and subject yourself to Thai cultural norms of showing deference to elders or those who are from higher social class than you, nor do you speak English to anyone out in public, even to other English speakers, who presumably, understand the need to speak Thai in public so people can be sure that you aren't formenting some type of dissent? I mean, people who come to Thailand should be prepared to integrate, right?

I am English and consider Australian folk my brothers. Brothers in arms and brothers in our beliefs and traditions.

Okay, so being overrun by Australians somehow ceases to be a problem? Dole bludgers in Australia too you know.

So when was the last time you were in the UK ? "being overrun by Australians"

[sustento]

I'm not anti immigration and admire anyone who moves to another country and makes a go of it.

I object to those who sponge of the state via extended families and form ghettos instead of integrating.

I lived in a Midlands town (not Leicester) in the 60s which had a high level of West Indian and Asian immigration. I lived at the poorer end of town - the end of town where people arriving from overseas without a lot of money would gravitate to as housing was both cheaper to rent and to buy.

When they first arrived they rented accommodation but as they clocked up 12 hour shifts at the local foundry and all the other local industries they began to have enough money to put the deposit down and buy a house.

Over the next few years that area became predominantly populated by immigrants but it wasn't because they deliberately chose to settle there and shut themselves off from the rest of the population. It was because the whites sold up and left. The ghettoisation of the area was caused by white flight.

[sustento]

I'm sorry but the Daily Express or the Daily Telegraph or The Times or the Socialist Worker are not independently recognised sources of valid statistics. Newspapers of all political persuasions make things up. They all have agendas and are not to be trusted.

I see that you're talking about a 'race of people'. What race would that be? Why do you need to mention 'race' when we're talking about immigration? Presumably Eastern Europeans who belong to the same 'race' as you and I (i.e they have white skins) are acceptable? Or not?

The internet is awash with many things. Most of them are b0llocks. I'm happier with genuine evidence and verifiable facts.

"I see that you're talking about a 'race of people'. What race would that be? Why do you need to mention 'race' when we're talking about immigration? Presumably Eastern Europeans who belong to the same 'race' as you and I (i.e they have white skins) are acceptable? Or not"

Can you point out where I quoted any of the the above statement according to you?

"It's hard to understand why some people will spend a lot of their time on a Forum arguing a point as to why a race of people should be giving their Country away"

There you go...

In the context I used it was in no way Racial,would you rather I said British or English?

The words 'British' and 'English' don't describe a race - they describe a nationality. My mate Yod is British - at least that's what his passport says.

[Jay Sata]

I'm glad I kept my Australian residency over the years.

The lucky country and now that Labor have been turfed out more so.

[MAJIC]

@Sustento Post No: 144 (too many quotes to reply)

Ok! I will rephrase my point for the pedantic amongs't us " "It's hard to understand why some people will spend a lot of their time on a Forum arguing a point as to why a Nationality of people should be giving their Country away"

[sustento]

@Sustento Post No: 144 (too many quotes to reply)

Ok! I will rephrase my point for the pedantic amongs't us " "It's hard to understand why some people will spend a lot of their time on a Forum arguing a point as to why a Nationality of people should be giving their Country away"

But I don't think I'm 'giving my country away'.

I don't feel that because some of the people who share the country I live in aren't whiteys like me who have ancestors going back hundreds of years are any less valuable than I am.

I've spent a lot of my working life in jobs that take me into GP surgeries, Sub Post offices and corner shops - all places that have lots of 'immigrants' working in or owning them. I've never been treated any differently than when I visit an equivalent business run by whites. I usually get treated much better.

My Mum used to work for our local council doing 'slum clearance'. Her job was to go round and explain to people why the council were knocking their house down. She would always rather visit the 'immigrant' areas because she knew she'd be treated with hospitality rather than the 'indigenous' population who often reduced her to tears.

[samran]

I'm glad I kept my Australian residency over the years.

The lucky country and now that Labor have been turfed out more so.

meh. A bit rich banging on about others not fitting in when you've not bothered to take out Australian citizenship yourself? Pot, kettle and all that good stuff.

[simple1]

I'm glad I kept my Australian residency over the years.

The lucky country and now that Labor have been turfed out more so.

Labor changed the PR requirements

Reduced visa validity period for certain returning residents

As part of the 2011-12 Mid-year Economic and Fiscal Outlook the Australian Government announced that the validity period for Resident Return Visas will be reduced from five years to one year where the applicant has not lived in Australia for more than two of the last five years. This change took effect on 15 February 2012.

[Scott]

An inflammatory post has been removed.

[transam]

I'm glad I kept my Australian residency over the years.

The lucky country and now that Labor have been turfed out more so.

meh. A bit rich banging on about others not fitting in when you've not bothered to take out Australian citizenship yourself? Pot, kettle and all that good stuff.

Romanians with nothing and camping on the British War Museum lawns have just been evicted and put on the streets. Free transport has been offered, payed by the UK tax payer, to take them back to their homeland.