kiwiinasia Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I notice over the last few years that living or visiting Pattaya seems to be quite fatal for foreigners. I wonder if the total fatalities of Pattaya alone exceeds that of the rest of Thailand put together? If we say Pattaya = Chon Buri then I think the answer is YES by a mile. But why do so many expats (non-thais) die there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
899cc Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 May be something in the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klubex99 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Probably because it has the highest concentration of foreigners, but I doubt it goes anywhere near competing with the rest of Thailand put together. Samui, Phuket, CM and BKK added together probably outstrips Pattaya by some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) 'I think' and 'by a mile' simply dont belong in the same post, much less the same sentence, but lets assume you are correct. 1. One of the biggest nightlife precincts in the world and a beacon for men from all over the world, even if the demographic is reportedly changing. 2. Also a beacon for criminality 3. Some people simply cant separate reality from Disneyland. Personally, I believe the majority are suicides, but that's right up there with 'I think' and 'by a mile' ... let's just call it 'death by misadventure'. (FWI, I love Patts, and nothing I read here will change my view of the town, but some people just cant handle it) Edited September 9, 2013 by MrWorldwide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) If you want to be statistically accurate in your assessment then you need a lot of data to correlate properly. Your statement is a bit like saying that most New Zealanders die in Auckland. The reason is obvious, that's where most of them are (not counting Sydney) EDIT: As an afterthought, apparently a disproportionate number of men (world wide) die while playing golf. Reason - generally older men play golf a disproportionate amount of time. Not just in frequency, but they may be at the course for 5 hours, 3 times a week. So the chances of them popping their clogs is more statistically likely. Edited September 9, 2013 by Gsxrnz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Probably because it has the highest concentration of foreigners, but I doubt it goes anywhere near competing with the rest of Thailand put together. Samui, Phuket, CM and BKK added together probably outstrips Pattaya by some way. This. ^^^^^ Plus if you count Esarn as a region then how many die up there of old age that never make the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 If Stickman is to be believed, Patts is all about Russian and Chinese families - bit of a shame he's in bed by 11pm, or he would see the real Pattaya come to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klubex99 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I think you may find that the actual hot spot is Phuket. http://farangdeath.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake24 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I think OP needs to add in death by misadventure, suicide vs death by the natives killing them off cos well the title sort of has the implications that somehow foreigners are getting offed by the locals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I think OP needs to add in death by misadventure, suicide vs death by the natives killing them off cos well the title sort of has the implications that somehow foreigners are getting offed by the locals. An emphatic NO to that. We arent here for a statistics class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake24 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I think OP needs to add in death by misadventure, suicide vs death by the natives killing them off cos well the title sort of has the implications that somehow foreigners are getting offed by the locals. An emphatic NO to that. We arent here for a statistics class. says the dude that was correcting OP that was putting "i think" and "by a mile" in the same post thereby implying that the OP needed to get some stats in order if not his post wouldn't make sense. Nice 180 degree turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Lots of guys here are quite old and they either marry young women or take large amounts of stimulants to keep up with their girl friends in the go go bars ,but at least they die happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyprof Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Lots of guys here are quite old and they either marry young women or take large amounts of stimulants to keep up with their girl friends in the go go bars ,but at least they die happy. Ya like the Fin who jumped off the building, no wait he was a young guy oh ...... maybe the Russian guy at that 7/11 no..... wait no he was a young guy too. Out of the last 27 Farang deaths from other than natural causes in Pattaya 26 were under 50. Can't be. I better go back and check my numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 If Stickman is to be believed, Patts is all about Russian and Chinese families - bit of a shame he's in bed by 11pm, or he would see the real Pattaya come to life. I am happily in bed by 9, know what I mean,wink wink, thats when I come to life and I am not even in Patters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) The info should be available via FoI request(s). HTH Edited September 9, 2013 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggles Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 stick is happliy married so he cant carry on trawling the bars into the am . the wife wont let him go hunting for Ho's at midnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaociao Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 stick is happliy married so he cant carry on trawling the bars into the am . the wife wont let him go hunting for Ho's at midnight Is stick still married?? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somchai Mao Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 In the past 13 years or so I know personally of around a dozen premature farang deaths in Pattaya. These were all people I knew personally. The causes are a mixture of motorbike accidents, Thai police defined suicide, unexplained, jumpers, murdered, car accidents. I don't know that many people in England who've died unnatural deaths in the past 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 - how many towns do you have in England that are almost entirely dedicated to entertainment, complete with ~100,000 prostitutes ? - how many towns do you have in England where the cops cant be bothered doing their job unless it involves someone important ? - how many towns do you have in England where almost anyone can ride a motorbike, seemingly with little or no prior experience ? - how many towns do you have in England where criminals from all over the world can find refuge from law enforcement ? The key to Pattaya, IMO, is understanding that none of it is real. Totally different story for expats living happily on the dark side, but for the weekend warriors who allow themselves to be consumed by the place, let's just say I would take death over 20+ years in a Thai jail for some of the stupid things Farang do in Patts. If I find myself sitting in a Pattaya hotel with absolutely nothing to go back to in Australia, am I going to get a taxi to Swampy or climb into the bathtub with a bottle of Mekhong and some pills ? That's where Patts becomes very real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I seem to remember reading a statistic from the UK consulate that gave Pattaya as having far and away the largest number of British residents in Thailand. I expect the same holds for other nationalities. Given that most of these residents are retired it seems entirely normal that they should be more likely to die than younger tourists elsewhere in the country. That's what older people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Lots of old expats living here, we all have to leave sooner or later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 In the past 13 years or so I know personally of around a dozen premature farang deaths in Pattaya. These were all people I knew personally. The causes are a mixture of motorbike accidents, Thai police defined suicide, unexplained, jumpers, murdered, car accidents. I don't know that many people in England who've died unnatural deaths in the past 30 years. You're a jinx !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yermanee Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 How on earth can a place that has more deaths than any other place be called a WINNER ? Yermanee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccarty Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Must be peer pressure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaaSaparot Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 http://farangdeath.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Timely edition of Foreign Correspondent here in Oz tonite: Broadcasting 8.01 pm on ABC1 (Channel 2) Foreign Correspondent It’s got sun, beaches, spectacular scenery and hoards of holiday makers. It's also the number one European destination for murder. Foreign Correspondent examines the brutal, dark heart of a tourist playground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Conners Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Yeah the foreign press likes to make "interesting" reality stories about Pattaya, often with very little connection to reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 http://farangdeath.tumblr.com/ This site is by no means definitive and should not be treated as such; our research suggests less than 20% of expat deaths are reported in the media - eg age and illness-related deaths. Gruesome site nonetheless, but it's interesting that the Thai media seem to have no problem reporting suicides. In Oz, they will rport all manner of unnatural death - murders, car accidents etc - but suicides are very rarely reported. Even when a celebrity like Whitney Houston has clearly taken their own life, they seem reticent to use the 's' word. Youth suicide gets periodic coverage, but the suicides in question are rarely reported as they happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Yeah the foreign press likes to make "interesting" reality stories about Pattaya, often with very little connection to reality. Foreign Correspondent isn't a tabloid news program - they often report from warzones like Syria and are generally respected here, but I take your point - its easy to beat up on Patts. FC is notorious for airing a story which saw one of their reporters and his producers banned from the Kingdom for Lese Majeste - would have been interesting trying to get another crew into the country to film a story on Pattaya or Phuket. Fortunately, they didnt have to - turns out Corsica is the villain of the piece tonight, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Stuffed if I know why *anyone* would want to holiday in Corsica - what a nightmare holiday that would be if tonights episode and this BBC story are anything to go by. I'll take Pattaya any day of the week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21473100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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