Byebye Blackberry phones

[wolf5370]

So you got a brick of the phone that can't use apps but you have an attractive roaming charges. Good for you if that what you want. Has it occurred to you that "sheep" may have different requirements from their phones and roaming is of no concern to them?

What do you mean "can't use apps" - you obviously have no idea of a Blackberry at all. BB World has thousands of apps - OS automatically updates (as required) as to apps.

Roaming has got to be more important than playing Angry Birds, surely - its a phone not a Gameboy!

Right I don't follow BB phones - not interested. At the time when attractive smartphones started coming out and I became interested, BB didn't have anything good to offer and were still pushing phones with hardware keyboard, which some folks still prefer to use even now??

BB came too late into this market their app store was the last one to acquire the useful number of useful apps... They are still not an open source platform from what I know. Apple still keeps on going, or keep on rolling on its name, but they keep loosing the market over to Android. Why do I and many others use Android? Because we can do what we want with it! We don't need the big companies telling us what we can or can not do with our devices, we don't need nobody telling us how to do things on our devices.

I am not saying they don't have any good phones at the moment, in fact you demonstrated they actually do but it's a little too late for them, they've missed a good chunk of users who switched from their Nokias and Motorollas over to iOS and Android.

Regarding sheep, it's actually corporations and businesses who fall into this sheep category, many were getting RIM devices just because they were being pushed as the business phones... Guess what, I know more than one global corporation who first jumped on the BB bandwagon to only let their employees chose the devices they want some years later.

They have a bad business model and they made some poor choices.

I didn't want to get into argument with anyone but another forum user here decided to call other platform users a sheep, just because they made different choices than him.

Sure, I haven't sunk to calling people "sheep" - it makes little sense in a consumer market - it is not "sheep", but good promotion (and Apple's is second to none). I agree BB were late coming to market - I believe this was due mainly to their concentration on the business market - which they had pretty much wrapped up for many years due to their locked network and security system (including device level pin on a global network that is required for BB network connection - i.e. phones can be locked out completely when stolen - and their BES and customers security profile set up - i.e. customers can make their own security policy for their phones).This is still the best system out there (not least because it is implemented from device level up), but now is not the only one. This caused unexpected (from BB POV) repercussions, with companies switching to IPhones (although BB still has the greatest market share in this market (business network phones) and Android is barely noticeable at less than 5%).

They pretty much abandoned the tablet (playbook) after 2 years of promises to upgrade to BB OS 10 - and have taken a sound rubbing because of this. They over reached on devices - it made more sense to partner with a device maker (licensing their patents), but they overlooked that possibility and pushed ahead with an even bigger range - and many peed off customers who found themselves feeling unsupported (something that is normal with IPhones and Android where the only real option is buying a new phone to get the new OS etc - BB customers were used to just upgrading their OS and rolling out new policies/service books (which allow functionality and connection) and only upgrading the phone/tablet once in a while for new hardware functionality). In short some of the benefits were lost, important ones, some because of competitors starting to catch up and others because of bad decisions by BB/RIM. I hope with the buy out, the new owners license out the devices and concentrate on what they do best - software and drivers.

Playbook still has the best screen and OS as far as I am concerned (I also have and IPad and an Android Tablet - I develop software for them) - just misses some functionality that should have been standard that was promised in BB 10, but never came - a real shame (its also cheaper than IPad by a long shot).

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[sustento]

So you got a brick of the phone that can't use apps but you have an attractive roaming charges. Good for you if that what you want. Has it occurred to you that "sheep" may have different requirements from their phones and roaming is of no concern to them?

What do you mean "can't use apps" - you obviously have no idea of a Blackberry at all. BB World has thousands of apps - OS automatically updates (as required) as to apps.

Roaming has got to be more important than playing Angry Birds, surely - its a phone not a Gameboy!

Right I don't follow BB phones - not interested. At the time when attractive smartphones started coming out and I became interested, BB didn't have anything good to offer and were still pushing phones with hardware keyboard, which some folks still prefer to use even now??

BB came too late into this market their app store was the last one to acquire the useful number of useful apps... They are still not an open source platform from what I know. Apple still keeps on going, or keep on rolling on its name, but they keep loosing the market over to Android. Why do I and many others use Android? Because we can do what we want with it! We don't need the big companies telling us what we can or can not do with our devices, we don't need nobody telling us how to do things on our devices.

I am not saying they don't have any good phones at the moment, in fact you demonstrated they actually do but it's a little too late for them, they've missed a good chunk of users who switched from their Nokias and Motorollas over to iOS and Android.

Regarding sheep, it's actually corporations and businesses who fall into this sheep category, many were getting RIM devices just because they were being pushed as the business phones... Guess what, I know more than one global corporation who first jumped on the BB bandwagon to only let their employees chose the devices they want some years later.

They have a bad business model and they made some poor choices.

I didn't want to get into argument with anyone but another forum user here decided to call other platform users a sheep, just because they made different choices than him.

Sure, I haven't sunk to calling people "sheep" - it makes little sense in a consumer market - it is not "sheep", but good promotion (and Apple's is second to none). I agree BB were late coming to market - I believe this was due mainly to their concentration on the business market - which they had pretty much wrapped up for many years due to their locked network and security system (including device level pin on a global network that is required for BB network connection - i.e. phones can be locked out completely when stolen - and their BES and customers security profile set up - i.e. customers can make their own security policy for their phones).This is still the best system out there (not least because it is implemented from device level up), but now is not the only one. This caused unexpected (from BB POV) repercussions, with companies switching to IPhones (although BB still has the greatest market share in this market (business network phones) and Android is barely noticeable at less than 5%).

They pretty much abandoned the tablet (playbook) after 2 years of promises to upgrade to BB OS 10 - and have taken a sound rubbing because of this.

Ain't that the truth. I've got a Playbook and it's beautifully built with a gorgeous screen. They're giving them away at the moment if you can find a shop that has any left.