george Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Israeli tourist arrested in Thailand over wife's murder Wife found floating in suitcase on Chao Phraya River BANGKOK - An Israeli tourist has been detained over the murder of his wife whose headless, dismembered torso was found in a suitcase floating on Bangkok’s main river, police said on Tuesday. Carol Cohen, a 36-year-old Israeli visiting Thailand with her husband, had been killed and dismembered about 48 hours earlier and her torso was wedged into a suitcase and dumped into a canal before surfacing in the Chao Phraya River, metropolitan police Colonel Phanurat Meepien said. "We have not yet pressed formal charges against the husband as we are awaiting results from more forensic tests," he told AFP. Husband Eli Cohen became the prime suspect in the case when police found a bloodied hotel towel in the suitcase and then learned the couple had checked into that hotel last Friday. After searching the room and seizing their passports, police rushed to the Israeli embassy where they discovered Cohen filing a missing person’s report for his wife, Phanurat said, adding that they found blood stains on his clothing after detaining him. Phanurat said the victim’s head and limbs had yet to be recovered, and her torso was stripped of skin before it was dumped in the water. --AFP 2004-02-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowleopard Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 her torso was stripped of skin before it was dumped in the water What a grisly homicide! Why would the torso get stripped of skin before being dumped? Why hide separately? Excuse the pun! Snowleopard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 A couple of inappropriate postings removed. /Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Don't know what is more surprising the murder or the Thai Coppers actually solving a case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genjoet Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 the big question is how could they identify her in the first place in order to make the arrest? only thing I can think of is the dimwit left his nametag on the suitcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveYo Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 The person must have left something in that suitcase for them to trace the identity. Possibly name or airline numbers or something. This person may have forgotten somehow in his haste to cover his tracks. In any rate this is really sick indeed. I have heard of cannibalism, and this kind of incident is indeed rare in times of today in civilized areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD0NVJ Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I have no words for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castelleone Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 no matter what country the guy came from. murder is murder and will be punished. I wonder if this man considered where he executed his atrocity? Bangkok Hilton will enlighten him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tess79 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 this man is horrible !!! ... surely he's not a christian!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetyim Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Why would the torso get stripped of skin before being dumped? To hide birthmarks and/or tattoos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveYo Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 I pray and hope that she was not tortured to death. This kind of murder calls for execution, but he should feel the pain as they take piece by piece off of his body before he dies. Eye for eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somboon Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Whilst it is a bit soon to be saying the Thai police have solved the case one might share "britmaveric's" surprise that they might just have done that. There must be more unsolved serious crimes in the realm than most other countries. Perhaps more to the point though might be the question "unsolved or rather allowed to die because they involve influential people" and I would suggest that there are many that fall in to that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee12linda Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Horrible, disgusting, sick - its begs many questions, how could someone murder, skin and dismember a body in a hotel room without someone being suspicious. I know in many of the seedier places in Bangkok, it is not unusual to find splatters of blood and other body fluids on walls, carpets etc., but surely there must have been quite a bit in the room/bathroom after the murder to have alerted the room maids? Rooms have thin walls in hotels on the norm, surely someone must have heard something? Even without its head and limbs, I would have thought a torso would be extremely heavy to carry. Why wait until you book into a tourist hotel before killing your spouse in such a bloody way? If he wanted rid of his wife so he could play the field here in the Land of Smiles, why not just have an argument, tell her you've had enough, and walk out, like so many other farang couples have done since they have arrived in Thailand??? It all begs belief!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pi Sua Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 If it happened in Pattaya, they would have found the evidence of a suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 The wife was probably giving the guy all kinds of grief for checking out the local lasses and he flipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted February 25, 2004 Author Share Posted February 25, 2004 Israeli detained in suspected murder BANGKOK: Thai police have detained an Israeli man on suspicion that he murdered and dismembered his wife, after a headless torso of a woman was found floating in a Bangkok river, officials said Wednesday. Police detained Eli Cohen, 36, on Tuesday at the Israeli Embassy as he was filing a missing person's report for his wife, Carol, police Col. Niphon Chareonphol said. Cohen has denied murdering his wife but police have enough evidence to file formal charges, Niphon said. A woman's torso was found Tuesday stuffed in a travel bag that was floating in the Chao Phraya river, and the legs and arms were found Wednesday in a canal connecting to the river, Niphon said. The head remains missing. Police detained Cohen after staff at a Bangkok hotel where the couple was staying reported finding a bloodstained towel in their room, The Nation newspaper said. The couple checked into the hotel on Friday and a video surveillance camera showed them with a travel bag similar to the one found in the river with the torso, Niphon said. A taxi driver identified Cohen as the customer he drove to the canal where the arms and legs were found in a garbage bag, Niphon said. The driver told police that Cohen would not allow him to help remove a travel bag from the trunk, he said. No other details about Cohen were available. --AP 2004-02-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowleopard Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 The person must have left something in that suitcase for them to trace the identity. Possibly name or airline numbers or something. This person may have forgotten somehow in his haste to cover his tracks. I listened to the Thai news on the radio and they said it happened like this... He had packed his wife's bodyparts in two suitcases and hailed a cab to take him to Khrung Kasem.The cabbie took him down to Chao Phraya River instead and he got mad. When they arrived at Khrung Kasem Canal,the taxi driver helped him to take the bags out of the trunk and he then noticed that blood had seeped out and called the police.They confirmed it was blood. Nobody saw him throw the bags in the canal but they found them floating later. The driver recognized the Israeli and police could apprehend him at his embassy where he was filing a "missing person's report". The cops informed him that she wasn't missing anymore! Snowleopard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedKelly Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 I suppose he will tell police thwat she slipped and fell in the bath tub and just happenned to slide past his samurai sword (15 times) as he was practicing in the bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted February 25, 2004 Author Share Posted February 25, 2004 Several inappropriate posts (religion, racism etc.) was removed. Please do not comment off-topic items. Please see our Forum Guidelines: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?act=boardrules Thanks! /Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somboon Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Further to my utterings regarding the ability (sic) of the Thai police in solving this crime (or any other for that matter) now they are shown to be absolutely oustanding as the article in the Bangkok Post this morning stated "that the towell was missing from Room No 2701" and that must have taken some arriving at. Alternatively the Prince Palace Hotel has the room numbers embroidered on the linen. (which i would doubt) If the case wasn't so macabre the whole thing would be just another case of TIT or Amazing Thailand and very laughable at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. BOOZER Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 this man is horrible !!! ... surely he's not a christian!! Am I missing something here, Carol Cohen a tourist from Israel, some how I don't think that this poor woman would have been going to church on Sunday with her husband Eli. If this chap has genuinely committed this gruesome crime, hope that his time will come, and very soon! Anybody know, do the Israeli authorities still have the death penalty (as opposed to legalised assassination)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 I'd agree far too many crimes go unsolved and "suicide" seems always the chief determination of the crime. Reminds me of the article of the chap in the condo in Pattaya- he had a bag wrapped around his head, tied with a mobile phone charger cable. Thai coppers declared it a suicide? Anyways obviously the Israeli was a muppet if the recent news is correct. Anyways I suppose this one was way too obvious to sweep under the carpet for the Thai Police. (don't seem to have any problems solving ferang on ferang crime anyways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gentleman Scamp Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Why skin a body to remove tattoos when a body can be DNA identified from a drop of blood? And what did he do with the skin, wrap the head in it? He is indeed a muppet. If he'd kept the skin on and seared the four stumps with a travel iron then no blood would have 'seeped through the bag'. Anyway, muppet or not - he deserves far worse then any extasy smuggler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowleopard Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 this man is horrible !!! ... surely he's not a christian!! You asked this rhetorical question because you were pretty sure what the answer was going to be and wanted to promote your own religion as morally superior! It's fair to assume that the alleged murderer isn't a Christian because of both his surname and nationality but his religion isn't germane to this case and not to most others either. Neither theists nor atheists commit the crime of murder. Only murderers do! Snowleopard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 this man is horrible !!! ... surely he's not a christian!! Like the Rev. Jim Jones, or David Koresh? Religion has nothing to do with something like this. You're either a troller or as snowleopard put it, trying to show you're own religion's moral superiority. Evil is evil. No matter what the proffesed religion of the perpatrator. cv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowleopard Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 They show on Thai TV today how they're recovering more bodyparts from Khrung Kasem Canal.Among other parts a left hand and intestines! The alleged murderer doesn't confess but police have found a cut on his hand to use as evidence. Snowleopard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. BOOZER Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Me thinks poor lady died of chicken flu, and Eli was trying save the government any embaressment by disposing of the evidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted February 25, 2004 Author Share Posted February 25, 2004 More body parts of slain Israeli found floating in khlong BANGKOK: Police yesterday retrieved more body parts from the same canal where the torso of a Israeli woman was found on Tuesday. Colonel Nipon Charoenphol, superintendent of Plapplachai Police Station, said a right ankle, a left arm and skin from the back were found at 7.30am floating in Klong Padung Krung Kasem near where a suitcase with the woman’s torso was discovered. Police were still searching for the head and the rest of the limbs, Nipon said. Eli Cohen, 36, was detained on Tuesday while filing a missing person’s report to the Israeli Embassy for his wife, Carol, 26. Colonel Phanurat Meepian, deputy commander of Metropolitan Police Division 6, said Eli Cohen was charged yesterday with committing premeditated murder and destroying and concealing the corpse. Cohen refused to talk to police apart from denying the charges and requested to speak to his lawyer and embassy officials, Phanurat said. Maj General Jakthip Kulchorn, deputy Metropolitan Police commissioner, said police were seeking help from the Israeli Embassy to obtain DNA samples from Carol’s parents to verify if the body parts were hers. “Although we haven’t located the head yet, we believe we have compelling evidence against the suspect,” Jakthip said. Police yesterday played back segments of surveillance tapes from the Prince Palace Hotel to Cohen, Phanurat said. The video footage showed Cohen and his wife carrying two large suitcases to the front desk to check in and the couple quarrelling in front of the elevator on the ground floor late Saturday night. Cohen was also caught on tape with two large suitcases leaving the hotel at four minutes after midnight on Monday night. “He appeared to soften up after seeing all the tapes but he refused to admit anything,” Phanurat said. A hotel maid told investigators that on Friday night she saw rose petals in the couple’s bedroom forming the words “I love U”, Nipon said. “This might indicate that he loved his wife a lot and his love could have turned into intense jealousy,” he said. A bloody hotel towel was found inside the suitcase containing the torso. A taxi driver has told police that he recognised Cohen as the fare who took two suitcases late Monday night to the area of Klong Phadung Krung Kasem. The cabby went to police after he heard about the discovery of the body on Tuesday morning, Nipon said. --The Nation 2004-02-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francois Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 sickening no more words ... francois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkstoney Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 A hotel maid told investigators that on Friday night she saw rose petals in the couple’s bedroom forming the words “I love U”, Nipon said. That was probably just his lame-assed way to take the suspicion off of him. Who knows what goes through the heads of psychos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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