webfact Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Woman Killed Outside Capitol Hill After Trying To Ram Gate Of White HouseTerror gripped the nation's capital this afternoon after a woman with her one-year-old in the back seat rammed her car through a security fence at the White House and then raced toward Capitol Hill before she was gunned down by Secret Service agents and Capitol Police officers.USA. – October 3,2013; The bizarre incident put the White House and Capitol Hill on lock-down as officers swarmed the scene with assault rifles and hundreds of staffers and tourists fled in terror or took shelter in buildings at the political heart of Washington D.C.Multiple news outlets are reporting the woman was Miriam Carey, a 34-year-old dental hygienist from Stamford, Connecticut. She was not armed, but repeatedly rammed law enforcement officers and squad cars with her black Infiniti luxury sedan while racing at speeds up to 80mph, according to authorities.Despite, the sensitive location, Capitol Police Chief Kim Dine said: ‘This appears to be an isolated incident. There is no nexus to terrorism.’Officers and federal agents fired at least 15 shots, before killing her within sight of the Capitol Building, just behind the U.S. Supreme Court.The child was unhurt. She was rescued from the car by Capitol Police and taken to a local hospital, where she was check out and is currently in the custody of child protection officials.Carey is believed to have a ‘history of mental health issues’, ABC reported. Full story: http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/10/04/women-killed-outside-capitol-hill-after-trying-to-ram-gate-of-white-house/ -- Pattaya Daily News 2013-10-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patje Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Especially the one year old looked dangerous !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phuketrichard Posted October 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2013 there only alternative was killing her?? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 there only alternative was killing her?? Easy to wonder that in hindsight but i guess if you do what she did, you will get treated like anyone else would, and that is as a serious terrorist threat. Feel awful for the kid but i don't think the mother can have too many complaints... were of course she alive to voice them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hillywilly Posted October 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2013 there only alternative was killing her?? Well as much as it galls me to say it, probably yes. I'm sure they didn't know that it was an unarmed dental hygienist and baby in the vehicle. The security forces have a very specific job to do and it really could have been anything or anyone in the car. And before anyone jumps on me, I'm not defending us govt, shoot to kill policys, or getting involved in debates about homeland security, just saying that as the car would not stop then the only alternative left to the people on the ground was to shoot her. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 there only alternative was killing her?? Given her behaviour, and without knowledge of what ordinance she could have had in the car, undoubtedly yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) how about shooting out the tires? see those poles in the front of the photo? That would have stopped her car PLus it seems from the photo they had a car behind her as well. Edited October 4, 2013 by phuketrichard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rixalex Posted October 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2013 how about shooting out the tires? see those poles in the front of the photo? That would have stopped her car PLus it seems from the photo they had a car behind her as well. She was not armed, but repeatedly rammed law enforcement officers and squad cars with her black Infiniti luxury sedan while racing at speeds up to 80mph, according to authorities. She rammed law enforcement officers. To me, that is attempted murder. If you attempt to murder a police officer, especially in the sort of place she did it, my feeling is, getting shot dead is a risk you take. Don't want to get shot dead, don't go around trying to kill people with your car, especially not in high security areas. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeijoshinCool Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 there only alternative was killing her?? Of course there were many alternatives, but notice the number of times "terror" was used in this brief article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjmmi Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 shoot first talk later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Yep, shoot her ASAP, they have no idea of consequences if they don't. Maybe she knew how it would end and wanted it? http://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-commit-suicide-2010-10?op=1 Edited October 4, 2013 by uptheos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 how about shooting out the tires? see those poles in the front of the photo? That would have stopped her car PLus it seems from the photo they had a car behind her as well. If this had been in suburbia, they might have chosen a different course of action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post folium Posted October 4, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2013 Sad story... At least the child survived and hopefully will have no memory of this traumatic incident. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) It is very sad. Carey's mother, Idella Carey, told ABC News her daughter had been suffering from post-natal depression since late August. "She was depressed," Mrs Carey said, but added that her daughter had "no history of violence". There's a long history of tragic events associated with PND. Edited October 4, 2013 by Chicog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Tragic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Imagine this happened in a poor third world country, what would be the comments? I've read somewhere "amount of effort required by police to compel compliance by an unwilling subject" what does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folium Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Imagine this happened in a poor third world country, what would be the comments? I've read somewhere "amount of effort required by police to compel compliance by an unwilling subject" what does that mean? Try just driving past State House in Harare....not a good idea as some have found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantisMan Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I have a feeling she was one of the Gov employee's locked out of work and not getting paid. Of course, that does not excuse her behavior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I have a feeling she was one of the Gov employee's locked out of work and not getting paid. Of course, that does not excuse her behavior. She worked as a dental hygienist, not as a government bureaucrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purrboat Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Well of course there were alternatives but the US does not spend all that money training killers to go have them shoot out a few tires! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yep, shoot her ASAP, they have no idea of consequences if they don't. Maybe she knew how it would end and wanted it? http://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-commit-suicide-2010-10?op=1 Harsh, but probably true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I grew up near Wash. D.C. Glad she wasn't my dental hygienist. (gets an irate phone call, gets angry, takes it out on patient, ...yikes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globeman Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Well of course there were alternatives but the US does not spend all that money training killers to go have them shoot out a few tires! Try shooting out the tyres on a moving vehicle... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 This was a relatively crowded area, so there was a lot of danger of killing others with unnecessary gunfire or if she was allowed to continue to drive erratically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I doubt the shooters will be revelling in a job well done. Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 She was using her car as a deadly weapon against people which makes it a lawful shoot. Cars will run on flat tires. I watched the chase live on TV, and watched her ram one police car. I watched one policeman put on a stretcher and into an ambulance. No one really knew why or what she was doing, but they shot her to stop her. I didn't see the shooting. It was out of sight of cameras. I saw the aftermath with most if not all of the windows blown out of the car. As others pointed out, the police didn't know what they were dealing with, but they had to stop her and they had every right to also protect themselves and everyone else in DC from what she was doing. She was effectively in the act of trying to commit murder with her car. The place she was doing it was very sensitive and who knew if she also had a bomb? It was a good shoot and "up yours" to those US bashers in posts above. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 This was a relatively crowded area, so there was a lot of danger of killing others with unnecessary gunfire or if she was allowed to continue to drive erratically. The real danger was her possibly killing people with a deadly weapon called a car. 80 MPH (120 kmh m/l) on city streets and deliberately ramming a police car? They had to stop her. Police know how to be sure of their backstop before they shoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinglePot Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 My take on this. She probably wanted to end her life and this was the option she felt most easy with. You don't take a one your old child with you on any other sort of trip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 No one really knew why or what she was doing, but they shot her to stop her. She had to be crazy. What she did makes no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I doubt the shooters will be revelling in a job well done. Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app As a matter of fact they normally do. Their adrenaline is a mile high, they've be forced to drive at 80 mph on narrow city streets scared to death they'll hit an innocent or have a bad crash themselves. They don't know if she has a bomb. This thing lasted a while. They are very, very happy to put a stop to it for their safety and the public safety. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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