MrHammer Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I might need an ACL operation, but I am stumped at the cost at Samitivej and Bumrungrad. Both want close to 300.000 baht, while a similar operation back in Scandinavia will only cost 100.000 baht on a private hospital? This makes no sense to me at all. Scandinavia is the most expensive region in the world, so how can an operation in Thailand cost 3 times as much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanyaburi Mac Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Here's just a semi fun read and breakdown of the operation in the U.S. Detailed, and scary, given the total cost!! http://calv.info/the-cost-of-an-acl/ Mac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 Insane cost! 70.000 USD is 20 times - TWENTY - times the cost in Denmark/Sweden and keep in mind this is also private healthcare. Something isn't right with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiexpat21 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The answer seems easy ............................get it done in Sweden/Denmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 The answer seems easy ............................get it done in Sweden/Denmark Yes but why is the price so different? I would like to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The answer seems easy ............................get it done in Sweden/Denmark Yes but why is the price so different? I would like to know Heres your answer, I am stumped at the cost at Samitivej and Bumrungrad. Best you try elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Samitivej and Bumrungrad are at the top end, price-wise, for Thailand. But what I cannot fathom is how ACL reconstruction could cost only USD3,300 in a private hospital in Scandinavia. Are you sure of that cost and that it is all inclusive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Samitivej and Bumrungrad are at the top end, price-wise, for Thailand. But what I cannot fathom is how ACL reconstruction could cost only USD3,300 in a private hospital in Scandinavia. Are you sure of that cost and that it is all inclusive? No, it is a bit more around 5000 USD, it seems there is some difference between meniscus tear and acl tear. ACL reconstruction is only 5000 USD: http://www.molholm.dk/page749.aspx, click on 'Priser' - prices. So yes, the prices in Thailand and the US are over the top, particularly the US, where it is outright robbery and gangster methods through government corruption. My guess is that the reason it is cheaper in Scandinavia is that they probably refuse difficult cases and also send failed operations on to the public sector. But still, something seems off with the price her in Thailand. My guess is that these prices are generally quoted to insurance agencies and therefore vastly inflated. Few Thais likely pay 300.000 cash in a hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ding Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Just want to say how furious I am with the American medical system. Stupid does indeed hurt. Carry on.... rant over! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ding Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) Here's just a semi fun read and breakdown of the operation in the U.S. Detailed, and scary, given the total cost!! http://calv.info/the-cost-of-an-acl/ Mac Oh gawd, rant not quite over... That man calculated that the cost per minute in a US operating room is the same as space tourism. Edited November 10, 2013 by ding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Samitivej and Bumrungrad are at the top end, price-wise, for Thailand. But what I cannot fathom is how ACL reconstruction could cost only USD3,300 in a private hospital in Scandinavia. Are you sure of that cost and that it is all inclusive? No, it is a bit more around 5000 USD, it seems there is some difference between meniscus tear and acl tear. ACL reconstruction is only 5000 USD: http://www.molholm.dk/page749.aspx, click on 'Priser' - prices. So yes, the prices in Thailand and the US are over the top, particularly the US, where it is outright robbery and gangster methods through government corruption. My guess is that the reason it is cheaper in Scandinavia is that they probably refuse difficult cases and also send failed operations on to the public sector. But still, something seems off with the price her in Thailand. My guess is that these prices are generally quoted to insurance agencies and therefore vastly inflated. Few Thais likely pay 300.000 cash in a hospital. To be far, you are going by the most expensive hospitals in Thailand. I'm not sure I would use their quote as "the price in Thailand". If you priced it at say a military hospital it would certainly be under 100,000. BTW the Bumrungrad site puts the median cost at 274,000. I.e. half the patients end up paying less than that, half more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHammer Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 I'm not going to have important surgery done in some 3rd world hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1dna Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Is the Op having the ACL repaired or replaced? hamstring graft, cadaver or patellar? Is there also a meniscus repair ? I ask because as I have had my ACL replaced with an additional meniscus repair. Hamstring grafted new ACL to patellar plate. Was very painful and long recovery. Nowadays I'm told it's all done arthroscopic. So presumably cheaper now? Just some pointless questions I'm sure but helps to know answers yes? Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiexpat21 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Is the Op having the ACL repaired or replaced? hamstring graft, cadaver or patellar? Is there also a meniscus repair ? I ask because as I have had my ACL replaced with an additional meniscus repair. Hamstring grafted new ACL to patellar plate. Was very painful and long recovery. Nowadays I'm told it's all done arthroscopic. So presumably cheaper now? Just some pointless questions I'm sure but helps to know answers yes? Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Perhaps before coming here a review of the knees anatomy would have helped ! An ACL never, even when replaced, connected to the "patellar plate" ! Arthroscopic surgery has many advantages but "cheapness" is not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1dna Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Is the Op having the ACL repaired or replaced? hamstring graft, cadaver or patellar? Is there also a meniscus repair ? I ask because as I have had my ACL replaced with an additional meniscus repair. Hamstring grafted new ACL to patellar plate. Was very painful and long recovery. Nowadays I'm told it's all done arthroscopic. So presumably cheaper now? Just some pointless questions I'm sure but helps to know answers yes? Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Perhaps before coming here a review of the knees anatomy would have helped ! An ACL never, even when replaced, connected to the "patellar plate" ! Arthroscopic surgery has many advantages but "cheapness" is not one. Well excuse me mr smarty pants. Mine was over 15 years ago and I'm no doctor. Are you? Anyway. Whatever it is, it was attached out though the lower front part of my knee after looping around a pin in the upper part of my knee. Long recovery. If one want's garranteed accurate info on medical issues, one might look elsewhere than TV? One would think!? Or not. Either case. Hope the OP has a speedy procedure and speedier recovery. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Now, now. Let's keep it civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptict11 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Just to be helpful ! A Pic of the knees normal anatomy And an ACL repair It will be noted the Patella is not involved although part of the Patella tendon may be excised and used as a ACL graft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1dna Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Just to be helpful ! A Pic of the knees normal anatomy And an ACL repair See! Now that must have been what I was referring too. Something about the patella. I think my choices must have been about graft sources then. If memory serves. It was Patella, hamstring or cadaver. I went with the ham and have had no probs. It will be noted the Patella is not involved although part of the Patella tendon may be excised and used as a ACL graft. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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