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Hello and Sawsdee khrap,

I had just created a system restore CD, plus an external whole recovery external drive using " Acronis." I've had a similar problem before my hard rive died. Got a DELL inspiron, running Windows 7, 32 bit version, works pretty fast. ( Only 2Gb of RAM)

It's not really a problem,as I do have the option to boof by pressing F 12 and boot from hard drive, or use my recovery CD. I remember that - once that happened, the Acronis popped up and was asking me to do a recovery.

I've only backed up Drive C, as I'd guess that's enough. So I can always boot it, it just happens sometimes that this NTLDR is missing pops up, then it says: Please press Ctrl. + Alt+ Del, but that doesn't change anything. The same message comes back......

Then I press F 12 and boot it from my hard drive. Did I do anything wrong when installing Acronis, or what could i do that this little, but annoying problem disappears.?

Any input would be deeply appreciated.-.wai2.gif

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It comes up after going into windows? Have you tried cleaning the registry with ccleaner? I would try that. Something is missing there. Registry is looking for that file, for some god-forsaken reason.

Try ccleaner. Go to filehippo.com and download it.

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It comes up after going into windows? Have you tried cleaning the registry with ccleaner? I would try that. Something is missing there. Registry is looking for that file, for some god-forsaken reason.

Try ccleaner. Go to filehippo.com and download it.

I'm always keeping my registry clean, by using AVG tuneup 2011, which does a great job.It doesn't go into boot mode, this missing bs pops up right after switching my thingy on.

What I don't understand is that, if i press F12, (which is the option to boot from a USB, or Disc drive, it boots when I click boot with hard drive. Am I missing something, as that's what this thing should usually do.

But I'm afraid that it's another problem not based on Windows 7, as I remember when I ran XP on the same machine for many years, it sometimes didn't boot up as well.

Might have my wife's villagers' ghosts inside and should make a big merit for all involved? I forgot to use my horn, when driving back home the last time. You know the one where you say goodbye to the ghosts at the temple?

I'll find these little devils. Or not. I'm working on it.-wai2.gif

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Maybe this helps:

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/findbyerrormessage/a/ntldrmissingxp.htm

And read here what NTLDR is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTLDR

Ps: Ccleaner doesn't help with boot problems. Check if you left a CD in the drive for example

Thanks a lot for such a good advice. I'd kill myself, if I'd post something here and having not checked all possible answers, which also includes not using a disc.

I'm not perfect in technology, but I'm good.It seems to be a problem that's on the system that has nothing to do with any versions of Windows.-wai2.gif

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Do you have a card reader? Try disabling in BIOS. It sounds like it's getting stuck in the boot sequence which you are bypassing manually with F12. Whilst in BIOS your boot sequence is in a good order.

CD/DVD

HD1

USB

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@draftv

Just wondering,

why do you prefer a higher priority for HD1 then USB ?

I would thought the other way around would be better

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Good evening,

Just got back from my temple visit and a monk was whispering in my ear: " Only two things on this planet are endless. Human stupidity and money which people donate for their life afterwards."

When I came back to my notebook, I'd realized that I'm not a monk, and seem to belong to the first category.

I started starring at my one Terra byte external hard drive, that's always attached to my notebook. Said drive seemed to talk to me: Disconnect me, please and I'show you the real truth about technical problems, as you'd put that Acronis on me.

I disconnected it as it wanted it and see- it works well again. Seems that the little devil always wanted to boot from the external drive, where one little Acronis file seems to be missing.

Thanks to all of you for this well needed wake up call. The idea with the CD wasn't that bad. -wai2.gif

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Do you have a card reader? Try disabling in BIOS. It sounds like it's getting stuck in the boot sequence which you are bypassing manually with F12. Whilst in BIOS your boot sequence is in a good order.

CD/DVD

HD1

USB

Sent from my HTC Desire using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Thanks a lot, the, problem is solved. As far as I remember it was always

HD

USB

CD/DVD

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Good evening,

Just got back from my temple visit and a monk was whispering in my ear: " Only two things on this planet are endless. Human stupidity and money which people donate for their life afterwards."

When I came back to my notebook, I'd realized that I'm not a monk, and seem to belong to the first category.

I started starring at my one Terra byte external hard drive, that's always attached to my notebook. Said drive seemed to talk to me: Disconnect me, please and I'show you the real truth about technical problems, as you'd put that Acronis on me.

I disconnected it as it wanted it and see- it works well again. Seems that the little devil always wanted to boot from the external drive, where one little Acronis file seems to be missing.

NTLDR isn't an Acronis file. It's the Microsoft file which initiates the load of the operating system (NTLDR = NT LOADER). Your problem is (was) that you're trying to boot from your external disk which doesn't have windows installed properly on it. If you alter your boot sequence in the BIOS to boot from HD1 first the problem will disappear (even with your external drive connected).

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@draftv

Just wondering,

why do you prefer a higher priority for HD1 then USB ?

I would thought the other way around would be better

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But not in this case thumbsup.gif

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Off topic:

I created a bootable usb stick with acronis. I can really recommend that, it is very comfortable. Put it in, put in 1 TB external USB HD and make a backup.

Better than the CD I think.

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@draftv

Just wondering,

why do you prefer a higher priority for HD1 then USB ?

I would thought the other way around would be better

wai.gif

As a standard manufacturers tended (in the past) to place the CD/DVD drive first to simplify the support process. Most computers used to come with the OS on CD/DVD then they started making us make our bootable media. Either way BIOS would not detect a bootable sector on any DVD left in the drive and move on.

If you know how to manipulate BIOS then the HD should come first. I have just been rebuilding an old Dell XPS M1330 using a USB key so I moved the USB up the list temporarily.

So, in short, I was just suggesting the simplest option for future proofing. The issue was the external drive so the OP should put USB right down the list then he can carry on leaving it attached.

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Good evening,

Just got back from my temple visit and a monk was whispering in my ear: " Only two things on this planet are endless. Human stupidity and money which people donate for their life afterwards."

When I came back to my notebook, I'd realized that I'm not a monk, and seem to belong to the first category.

I started starring at my one Terra byte external hard drive, that's always attached to my notebook. Said drive seemed to talk to me: Disconnect me, please and I'show you the real truth about technical problems, as you'd put that Acronis on me.

I disconnected it as it wanted it and see- it works well again. Seems that the little devil always wanted to boot from the external drive, where one little Acronis file seems to be missing.

NTLDR isn't an Acronis file. It's the Microsoft file which initiates the load of the operating system (NTLDR = NT LOADER). Your problem is (was) that you're trying to boot from your external disk which doesn't have windows installed properly on it. If you alter your boot sequence in the BIOS to boot from HD1 first the problem will disappear (even with your external drive connected).

Got your point that it isn't an Acronis file. But I had backed it up on this 1 TB hard drive. So I'd guess once when there was a boot failure, it automatically went to the restore option of Acronis, which I didn't needed and stopped. But I do have a boot able CD created by Acronis that works well. Gotta love and hate it.

Thanks for your posts!!

Cheers-wai2.gif

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Good evening,

Just got back from my temple visit and a monk was whispering in my ear: " Only two things on this planet are endless. Human stupidity and money which people donate for their life afterwards."

When I came back to my notebook, I'd realized that I'm not a monk, and seem to belong to the first category.

I started starring at my one Terra byte external hard drive, that's always attached to my notebook. Said drive seemed to talk to me: Disconnect me, please and I'show you the real truth about technical problems, as you'd put that Acronis on me.

I disconnected it as it wanted it and see- it works well again. Seems that the little devil always wanted to boot from the external drive, where one little Acronis file seems to be missing.

NTLDR isn't an Acronis file. It's the Microsoft file which initiates the load of the operating system (NTLDR = NT LOADER). Your problem is (was) that you're trying to boot from your external disk which doesn't have windows installed properly on it. If you alter your boot sequence in the BIOS to boot from HD1 first the problem will disappear (even with your external drive connected).

Got your point that it isn't an Acronis file. But I had backed it up on this 1 TB hard drive. So I'd guess once when there was a boot failure, it automatically went to the restore option of Acronis, which I didn't needed and stopped. But I do have a boot able CD created by Acronis that works well. Gotta love and hate it.

Thanks for your posts!!

Cheers-wai2.gif

Here's a thought. If it was a system state backup then it is possible that BIOS actually discovered the right files to believe it had found the OS (if the back-up was uncompressed). Then, when it had that file, it tried to load the system but couldn't find the appropriate drivers. This would explain why it was getting hung up on the external hard-drive when it really shouldn't do that. Anyway, best practice will still be to push USB right down the list and place the HD and CD/DVD higher up (unless you are installing an, or running a portable, OS from USB).

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