December 31, 201312 yr Could you tell me whether the bloodline is from Thailand or overseas? By the way I know of Some other overseas breeds for sale in Thailand, Jersey Giant, Orpington, Black and Copper Marans for example.
January 8, 201412 yr Where are you located chicken man?Phayao province. 'And where would one find/obtain the Jersey Giant, Orpington, Black and Copper Marans ? Regards.
January 8, 201412 yr Where are you located chicken man? Phayao province. 'And where would one find/obtain the Jersey Giant, Orpington, Black and Copper Marans ? Regards. I've sent you a PM, if anyone else wants details please send me a message and I will reply. I suspect it would be against forum rules to give contact details in a post.
January 8, 201412 yr yep. for your own protection. but why would anyone want such heavy feathered and big chickens in thailand? aprt from the regular white battery egg layer who deal well with heat, i find the thai chickens really nice, good eggs, good mothers, friendly intelligent (for chickens) birds, eat much more opurtunistically, adn taste good...
January 9, 201412 yr Popular Post yep. for your own protection. but why would anyone want such heavy feathered and big chickens in thailand? aprt from the regular white battery egg layer who deal well with heat, i find the thai chickens really nice, good eggs, good mothers, friendly intelligent (for chickens) birds, eat much more opurtunistically, adn taste good... Domestic layers (except for white leghorns) tend to be calmer and because they are heavier they are less likely to fly over fences or roost in trees. They will outlay Thai House chickens (Gai Bahn) about 6 times over. They can be taught to be opportunistic feeders as long as there is sufficient forage. Domestic birds tend to have lower cholesterol than commercial broilers, but more that Gai Bahn. They also tend to require more attention than Gai Bahn. The caged layers in Thailand are a redish sex linked cross of RIR and White Rock and lay brown eggs. The males of this cross are white. IMHO and my personal reason for doing so is that some people like having different looking chickens with a more tender meat. There is a specialty market to the ethnic Chinese for really large chickens as there is also for chickens with black skin. I also like the taste of GB and but find them a little tough, but good in soups and curries. Because of the cholesterol in Broilers, I'm going more with GB and domestic layers that I free range and feed a supplement. The GB are excellent mothers and if you put the eggs of your domestic layers under one she will hatch and raise them to be better scroungers. On a small scale this is much better than an incubator.
January 9, 201412 yr We get regular 65 to 75g eggs from our girls. If you want very dark brown eggs the black and copper Marans oblige, and if you want novelty the Araucanas lay sky blue eggs, I believe Araucana crosses give olive eggs, though we have yet to try. We do have just one hen that is a Golden Lakenvelder bantam, they are known as the Dutch every day bird due to their consistency of laying, I would suspect for a free ranging bird they are pretty efficient at production. Anyway, you ask a good question, why bother with large heavy feathered breeds? I would suggest, eggs, meat ,interest, conservation. You do need to provide shelter in hot weather more so than for local breeds, but as mentioned they are less apt to disappear up trees. Some breeds are very endearing too, my wife loves our White Sussex, they are inquisitive, beautiful and do forage, especially if I forget to close the gate to the vegetable beds, they are pretty good layers too. local workers are amazed at the size of our birds, a couple even asked whether they can borrow a male to mate with their hens. It would indeed be an interesting experiment.
January 9, 201412 yr Here's a nice facebook site. Organic Thai food and more chickens... https://www.facebook.com/pages/LaiSaLong/201140603262355 Regards.
January 9, 201412 yr our thai birds mixed with regular leghorns but the mixes are pretty ugly (if appearances are important)... we have one thai hen up with my cuchin mix hens, and rir mixes, she escapes but returns regularly and has managed to out run the kibbutz dogs and feral cats (and foxes who came and ate ranana and almost ate herzeliya, my cuchin hens), and the jackals too... she tends to lay in odd places while all the others use a communal laying box (on dry leaves of lemon grass, for a thai flavour , and to keep the eggs clean and dry when everything is muddy). but my husband doesnt understand why i would keep 'pretty' birds if they are not 100% layers, or meat birds (the cuchins lay less then the leghorns who have been laying even in our BIG SNOW of jerusalem, in middle of winter with no extra light sources)... and we hatched out lots of thai birds (gai shon) in our very simple cheapy incubator, run in thai fashion (basic thermometer and constant playing with the heat and humidity, not to mention that husband kept adding eggs every day w/o marking them), but we had good hatches...
January 10, 201412 yr Black chicken is a typical Chinese exclusive, double boiled with herbs and spices we consume it as a form of tonic and also delicacy. In my village, i don't know the price/kg now but back then a few years ago, "IF" a kai ban/kai muang is ฿50/kg, kai dam would be ฿80. If kai bai/kai muang is ฿100/kg then kai dam would be ฿130/kg... My neighbour raised them and customers are Chin Hor (Chinese ethnic) from Doi Mae Salong and Chinese ethnic from rural village 30km from my place...As for me, i prefered the ones in Big C in ready packs. Black colour from eyes to feet. This is women tonic for the monthly blood loss...because the most important ingredient in this dish is "Dang Gui" aka Angelica sinensis. But i greedily eat them all...Don't care~ (It is soooooooo delicious !)
January 10, 201412 yr Double boiled pots and soup canisters for Chinese soup speciality. Use in the making of Herbal Black Chicken soup.
January 10, 201412 yr Well, I think I can make a lot of money. Every chicken I forgot in the oven turned black all over and I threw it away, didn't know that they are special priced Bye, Derk
January 12, 201412 yr our thai birds mixed with regular leghorns but the mixes are pretty ugly (if appearances are important)... we have one thai hen up with my cuchin mix hens, and rir mixes, she escapes but returns regularly and has managed to out run the kibbutz dogs and feral cats (and foxes who came and ate ranana and almost ate herzeliya, my cuchin hens), and the jackals too... she tends to lay in odd places while all the others use a communal laying box (on dry leaves of lemon grass, for a thai flavour , and to keep the eggs clean and dry when everything is muddy). but my husband doesnt understand why i would keep 'pretty' birds if they are not 100% layers, or meat birds (the cuchins lay less then the leghorns who have been laying even in our BIG SNOW of jerusalem, in middle of winter with no extra light sources)... and we hatched out lots of thai birds (gai shon) in our very simple cheapy incubator, run in thai fashion (basic thermometer and constant playing with the heat and humidity, not to mention that husband kept adding eggs every day w/o marking them), but we had good hatches... I take it that means you are not in the maket for showgirls, the skin is actually black, but not much meat, especially if you are having guests.
January 20, 201412 yr So, here we are at the point of this whole operation. 8 male RIRs getting on for 3 kilos and designated for kitchen duties. (keeping 2) Now what happens? Do we kill, pluck and dress them? Do we sell them live? What price? What's the standard procedure? (In your experience) I've just got some ducks too, so you might as well chuck that info in there as well. I have a feeling I might not like what's coming.... Regards.
January 21, 201412 yr If it were me ( and it will be soon) I would eat them myself, they hould go well in Tom Yum or Gang Keow Wan. You will have trouble selling them to Thais. What kind of ducks? There will usually be someone who provides dressed ducks to people in the local markets and you can sell live to him. It will be around 50 baht + or - per kg for Muscovy. Others may be difficult to move. If it is only a few I would eat them too. There I a dish called pa lote which I with soy sauce and sugar witch is pretty good.
January 22, 201412 yr Here's the little rascals... 2 weeks old today and outstripping the rock crosses by about 3 to 1. Regards.
January 22, 201412 yr Those are Khaki Campells and are great egg layers. Definitely eat the males. Here's the little rascals... DSC02737.JPG 2 weeks old today and outstripping the rock crosses by about 3 to 1. Regards.
March 7, 201412 yr 'And what's with the black chickens? http://tcbp.net/cdU Regards. I have black skin chickens from burma that look a lot nicer than that. i will try to take a pic tomorrow and post it.
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