Speaker wants more documents for censure motion push

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CENSURE DEBATE
Speaker wants more documents for censure motion push
Khanittha Thepphajorn,
Anapat Deechuay
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- HOUSE SPEAKER Somsak Kiatsuranont yesterday demanded more documents from the opposition Democrat Party relating to its impeachment move and graft allegations. He said if he did not receive them by tomorrow afternoon, he would review the situation again before putting it on House agenda.

"I have set November 21 at [4.30pm] as the deadline for submitting relevant documents," he said.

Democrat Party spokesman Chavanond Intarakomalyasut said after a party meeting that the Democrats would not submit additional documents, however, because they had followed the required procedures so far.

A Democrat source, who asked not to be named, said party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva had told MPs to prepare to scrutinise the government outside the Parliament.

Somsak said that because the motion of no confidence against Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and Interior Minister Charupong Ruangsuwan touched on alleged irregularities, it was mandatory to activate a censure along with the impeachment drive - and not one or the other.

PM's Office Minister Varathep Rattanakorn said the government was not playing a political game designed to derail the censure.

When the opposition had properly activated the censure, the government would adjust its work schedule accordingly, he said, dismissing concern about Yingluck's prior engagements, including her scheduled trip to Singapore next week.

Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva said the opposition had followed precedents for censuring the government.

"Should Somsak refuse to set the date for censure, then this can only mean the government wants to reserve its right to call a snap election," he said.

Under the Constitution, the government cannot evade a censure by dissolving the House, he said.

Yingluck yesterday said there was no substantial reason for the government to step down or dissolve the House of Representatives at this time. "We can still keep order in the country," she said.

She said the government would let everything take its course, in line with the democratic system. She was ready to answer all matters raised by the Democrats during the coming no-confidence debate, which is a means of monitoring the government's performance by the opposition, she said.


-- The Nation 2013-11-20

[ChrisY1]

"PM's Office Minister Varathep Rattanakorn said the government was not playing a political game designed to derail the censure."

Can't see what else they're trying to achieve.....! Any Govt. on it's back foot would try similar tactics.

It's almost predictable to see what's going to happen here....which is most likely nothing, the Govt. will simply reject anything that's put forward.

[ridkun]

It's the representatives' prerogative to make the motion of no confidence statement in the parliament and no evidence is required. This Speaker is just buying time for Thaksin to decide whether he wants to dissolve or not, and push the process further so Democrats will have most tiny time left to speak in the parliament.

It's so pathetic that they are always scared by motion of no confidence while controlling almost two-third of the seats.

[Local Drunk]

It must be Legal Day on Thai Visa... Can someone point me to a site (in English) where I can read about the prerequisites under the law for impeachment of MP's in Thailand?

[smutcakes]

We want to impeach you but we wont show you any evidence. Have they learnt nothing in 10 years?

[slapout]

The demand by the House speaker is a travisity of the system and the whole method of impeachment. The evidence is not a requirement for the proceedings to contine. Rather the circumstances for the impeachment itself, are required (those have been submited). The evidence will be presented during the impeachment hearing by the opposition.

Past responses by the Pm to specific questions about the majority of the failures of this government have shown her incompentence as well as a complete lack of understanding/knowledge/compresension. Her pleas for more time, understanding, patience, ask the specific minister, etc have been non productive for those concerned citizens. With the majority the present government has, there is little chance of accomplishing anything significant, by the opposition. OK they may only bring more attention to the shortcoming, corruption, etc, but to have a chance of eliminating the source of the problem, you have to be agressive in the approach. Its not like the presaent government has been appointed for their life nor the next 2 generations, they are susposed to be 'public servents' working for the good of country and all the citizens.

[MrSlatersParrot]

"A Democrat source, who asked not to be named, said party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva had told MPs to prepare to scrutinise the government outside the Parliament."

They want a kangaroo court inside parliament (withholding evidence in order to spring it on the PM) and Suthep already has proposed setting up his own kangaroo court.

In any normal parliament the evidence should be presented so those accused can answer or rebut the charges otherwise the answer will be "we'll get back to you when we have prepared our answer."

[Thait Spot]

"A Democrat source, who asked not to be named, said party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva had told MPs to prepare to scrutinise the government outside the Parliament."

They want a kangaroo court inside parliament (withholding evidence in order to spring it on the PM) and Suthep already has proposed setting up his own kangaroo court.

In any normal parliament the evidence should be presented so those accused can answer or rebut the charges otherwise the answer will be "we'll get back to you when we have prepared our answer."

In any normal parliament MPs wouldn't cheat in a house vote

In any normal parliament the speaker would allow opposition debate

In any normal parliament you wouln't get a 310 vote for become a 310 vote against an act

In any normal parliament the PM wouldn't flee to Dubai

[MrSlatersParrot]

"A Democrat source, who asked not to be named, said party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva had told MPs to prepare to scrutinise the government outside the Parliament."

They want a kangaroo court inside parliament (withholding evidence in order to spring it on the PM) and Suthep already has proposed setting up his own kangaroo court.

In any normal parliament the evidence should be presented so those accused can answer or rebut the charges otherwise the answer will be "we'll get back to you when we have prepared our answer."

In any normal parliament MPs wouldn't cheat in a house vote

In any normal parliament the speaker would allow opposition debate

In any normal parliament you wouln't get a 310 vote for become a 310 vote against an act

In any normal parliament the PM wouldn't flee to Dubai

They were allowed to debate except everyone of them wanted to speak.

Yah boo politics.

In any event they ended up abstaining from voting didn't they?

The 40 appointed senators they wouldn't be a political grouping now would they?

Likely to lose their seats and influence if they have to actually be elected

[oldsailor35]

"A Democrat source, who asked not to be named, said party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva had told MPs to prepare to scrutinise the government outside the Parliament."

They want a kangaroo court inside parliament (withholding evidence in order to spring it on the PM) and Suthep already has proposed setting up his own kangaroo court.

In any normal parliament the evidence should be presented so those accused can answer or rebut the charges otherwise the answer will be "we'll get back to you when we have prepared our answer."

In any normal parliament MPs wouldn't cheat in a house vote

In any normal parliament the speaker would allow opposition debate

In any normal parliament you wouln't get a 310 vote for become a 310 vote against an act

In any normal parliament the PM wouldn't flee to Dubai

In any normal parliament, the army would not move in and take it over .......its known as a military coup.

In any normal parliament, the military would not appoint a court to find the PM guilty of a trumped up charge.

[rubl]

We want to impeach you but we wont show you any evidence. Have they learnt nothing in 10 years?

We want to impeach you and will show all in details during the censure debate.

[indyuk]

It must be Legal Day on Thai Visa... Can someone point me to a site (in English) where I can read about the prerequisites under the law for impeachment of MP's in Thailand?

Impeachment[edit]

The Constitution allowed individual justices to be the subject of impeachment proceedings with the vote of one fourth of the members of the House or with 50,000 approval of petitioners. A vote of three fifths of the Senate is required for impeachment. Earlier drafts had required votes of only 10% of the combined House and Senate to call for a vote of impeachment, and votes of three fifths of the combined Parliament to dismiss a justice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Court_of_Thailand

Edited November 20, 2013 by indyuk