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My take on the SH150i, PCX150, Forza 300, and Nouvo SX.

Currently I have a SH150i, and ""LOVE IT"", and Recently sold a loaded out Nouvo SX.

No comparison here. The SH150i is really a high quality bike, and does well on the road at speed. After riding the SH, and getting on the Nouvo to deliver it to it's new owner, it was like getting on a bicycle. Gas mileage......It's a motorbike so I don't care.

Advantage's and Disadvantages that I see.

"Nouvo SX" (a great bike) maneuvers through traffic like a champ, has a longer wheel base than bikes like the Scoopy, and Fino. 16" wheels help with the bumps compared to 14" Scoopy, and Fino, and rides with a passenger nicely.

"SH150i" Costs more than the PCX for several reaons. 1st it is imported. 2nd it has beautiful Disc Brakes front and rear. 3rd large 16" wheels with pretty fat tires on it, leading to a great ride at speed, and with a passenger.( rear 120/80, 60P, and front 100/80, 50P. Maximum weight capacity is 400 pounds, about the same as the PCX150, including a second passenger. Wheelbase is almost 1 inch longer than the PCX150. Curb weight SH150i 302lb. Curb weight PCX150 286lb. Seems to have a tiny bit more power than the PCX150 I have ridden before. The fit and finish is beautiful on the SH. Super slick paint!! I have added some stripes to my black SH that comes on the PCX flat black edition, and it looks very nice.

If you added the Large Wheels, Tires, and Rear Disc Brakes to the PCX, the cost gap would be much smaller. The SH also has a completely flat floorboard. One disadvantage of the SH150i is that because it is a fairly large scooter, the seat is little high for a passenger getting on and off.

The SH150 is not the new Kid on the block. (except in Thailand) The SH150 went into production around 2001, and started with a SH50 in 1984.

"Forza"....Wow that would be a great bike to have, and I would have highly considered it when I purchased my SH150i, except for it's size. Too big for me in BKK with all the driving around, and between cars in traffic. You could go camping with the storage under the seat, and it is a great cruiser at highway speeds. Lots of seat space for the biggest of families ;-)

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I have a friend here in Chiang mai with a Forza and he does ok cutting the traffic here and running between lanes.

I have a Forza and cutting through traffic is not an issue. Naturally being bigger size it does not fit through tight spots, but really hardly a problem.

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Are you sure the SH150 is imported? If so then there really is no reason to get it. I think it looks better than the PCX but for the same price you could get a Vespa which looks way better still. Painfully obvious here at the dealer in Chiang Mai where the SH150 is right next to the Vespa display ;)

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Of the 4 scooters I have only ridden the PCX as I own one.

The SH150 is ugly as hell and cost over 20k baht more, no thanks.

The brakes are very good on a PCX but rear shocks bottom out too easy when 2 people on board (app 150 kg).

Added YSS rear shocks on mine and it don't bottom out with 2 people onboard any longer.

I read 2 places that the SH150 is the best selling scooter in Italy which I find odd considered that they have their own Vespa's there.

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Of the 4 scooters I have only ridden the PCX as I own one.

The SH150 is ugly as hell and cost over 20k baht more, no thanks.

The brakes are very good on a PCX but rear shocks bottom out too easy when 2 people on board (app 150 kg).

Added YSS rear shocks on mine and it don't bottom out with 2 people onboard any longer.

I read 2 places that the SH150 is the best selling scooter in Italy which I find odd considered that they have their own Vespa's there.

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Okay another plus for the SH150. Doesn't need upgraded shocks to carry heavy loads.

PCX Plus Shocks, Disc Brakes on the rear, Larger Rims, Larger Tires, and the price difference further narrowed.

Actually the SH150 is one of the top selling scooters in the world.

Here is a list from a 3 years ago. Didn't find a 2013 list in my quick search.

Remember there is a seat for every ass, and an ass for every seat. I have never considered the PCX because it is ugly as hell, and has a so so finish and fit, or I would have had one a long time ago. Was looking at the Vespa, but fell in love with the SH150i.

Also opinions are like assho*es, everybody has one.

Please notice the top 3 are all SH Honda's.

Also at number 24 is the PCX125 with a score 5 times lower than the comparable SH125.

Classifica Top 100 Gen-Dic 2010 - Scooter

001 HONDA ITALIA SH 300 Scooter 13.957

002 HONDA ITALIA SH 150 Scooter 10.661

003 HONDA ITALIA SH 125 Scooter 10.088

004 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 300 TOURER Scooter 9.932

005 YAMAHA XMAX 250 Scooter 9.692

006 YAMAHA TMAX 500 Scooter 8.663

007 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 RST Scooter 7.361

008 PIAGGIO VESPA GTS 300 SUPER Scooter 7.047

009 KYMCO AGILITY 125 R16 Scooter 6.534

010 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 300 Scooter 6.239

011 KYMCO DOWNTOWN 300 Scooter 5.599

012 PIAGGIO VESPA LX 125 Scooter 5.065

013 YAMAHA X-CITY 250 Scooter 4.931

014 HONDA SW-T 400 Scooter 4.199

015 KYMCO AGILITY 150 R16 Scooter 3.684

016 KYMCO XCITING R 300 I Scooter 3.396

017 YAMAHA MAJESTY 400 Scooter 3.374

018 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 150 RST Scooter 3.050

019 SUZUKI AN 400 BURGMAN Scooter 2.756

020 LML NV 150 Scooter 2.646

021 APRILIA SCARABEO 200 I.E. Scooter 2.556

022 KYMCO LIKE 125 Scooter 2.496

023 APRILIA SCARABEO 125 I.E. Scooter 2.268

024 HONDA PCX 125 Scooter 2.045

025 KYMCO PEOPLE S 200 Scooter 2.002

026 SYM SYMPHONY 125 Scooter 1.903

027 PIAGGIO VESPA LX 150 Scooter 1.859

028 APRILIA SCARABEO 300 Scooter 1.760

029 APRILIA SCARABEO 100 4T Scooter 1.733

030 SUZUKI SIXTEEN 150 Scooter 1.712

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Of the 4 scooters I have only ridden the PCX as I own one.

The SH150 is ugly as hell and cost over 20k baht more, no thanks.

The brakes are very good on a PCX but rear shocks bottom out too easy when 2 people on board (app 150 kg).

Added YSS rear shocks on mine and it don't bottom out with 2 people onboard any longer.

I read 2 places that the SH150 is the best selling scooter in Italy which I find odd considered that they have their own Vespa's there.

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Okay another plus for the SH150. Doesn't need upgraded shocks to carry heavy loads.

PCX Plus Shocks, Disc Brakes on the rear, Larger Rims, Larger Tires, and the price difference further narrowed.

Actually the SH150 is one of the top selling scooters in the world.

Here is a list from a 3 years ago. Didn't find a 2013 list in my quick search.

Remember there is a seat for every ass, and an ass for every seat. I have never considered the PCX because it is ugly as hell, and has a so so finish and fit, or I would have had one a long time ago. Was looking at the Vespa, but fell in love with the SH150i.

Also opinions are like assho*es, everybody has one.

Please notice the top 3 are all SH Honda's.

Also at number 24 is the PCX125 with a score 5 times lower than the comparable SH125.

Classifica Top 100 Gen-Dic 2010 - Scooter

001 HONDA ITALIA SH 300 Scooter 13.957

002 HONDA ITALIA SH 150 Scooter 10.661

003 HONDA ITALIA SH 125 Scooter 10.088

004 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 300 TOURER Scooter 9.932

005 YAMAHA XMAX 250 Scooter 9.692

006 YAMAHA TMAX 500 Scooter 8.663

007 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 RST Scooter 7.361

008 PIAGGIO VESPA GTS 300 SUPER Scooter 7.047

009 KYMCO AGILITY 125 R16 Scooter 6.534

010 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 300 Scooter 6.239

011 KYMCO DOWNTOWN 300 Scooter 5.599

012 PIAGGIO VESPA LX 125 Scooter 5.065

013 YAMAHA X-CITY 250 Scooter 4.931

014 HONDA SW-T 400 Scooter 4.199

015 KYMCO AGILITY 150 R16 Scooter 3.684

016 KYMCO XCITING R 300 I Scooter 3.396

017 YAMAHA MAJESTY 400 Scooter 3.374

018 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 150 RST Scooter 3.050

019 SUZUKI AN 400 BURGMAN Scooter 2.756

020 LML NV 150 Scooter 2.646

021 APRILIA SCARABEO 200 I.E. Scooter 2.556

022 KYMCO LIKE 125 Scooter 2.496

023 APRILIA SCARABEO 125 I.E. Scooter 2.268

024 HONDA PCX 125 Scooter 2.045

025 KYMCO PEOPLE S 200 Scooter 2.002

026 SYM SYMPHONY 125 Scooter 1.903

027 PIAGGIO VESPA LX 150 Scooter 1.859

028 APRILIA SCARABEO 300 Scooter 1.760

029 APRILIA SCARABEO 100 4T Scooter 1.733

030 SUZUKI SIXTEEN 150 Scooter 1.712

Also found a Top 100 list for 2013. ""Global""

SH150 #1, SH300 #2, SH125 #3

PCX #25, Vespa #13, #18, #35

Sorry about the formatting.

Here is a link to the article. http://www.motoblog.it/post/226829/mercato-classifiche-top-100-r-1200-gs-nc700x-e-sh150-i-piu-venduti-a-giugno-2013

Here is the headline for the article.

BMW R 1200 GS, Honda NC700X, Honda SH150 e Aprilia Scarabeo i più venduti a Giugno 2013

Top 100,

Classifica Top 100 Gen-Giu 2013 - Globale Pos. Marca Modello Segmento Tot Gen-Giu 001 HONDA ITALIA SH 150 Scooter 5.271 002 HONDA ITALIA SH 300 Scooter 4.065 003 HONDA ITALIA SH 125 Scooter 3.042 004 YAMAHA TMAX 500 Scooter 2.908 005 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 RST Scooter 2.612 006 BMW R 1200 GS Enduro 2.607 007 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 300 Scooter 2.498 008 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 350 Scooter 1.834 009 KYMCO AGILITY 125 R16 Scooter 1.744 010 YAMAHA XENTER 150 Scooter 1.465 011 YAMAHA XMAX 250 Scooter 1.294 012 HONDA NC700X Enduro 1.286 013 PIAGGIO VESPA GTS 300 SUPER Scooter 1.273 014 HONDA INTEGRA Scooter 999 015 KYMCO DOWNTOWN 300 Scooter 969 016 KYMCO AGILITY 200I R16 Scooter 923 017 DUCATI MULTISTRADA 1200 Turismo 915 018 PIAGGIO VESPA LX 125 3V Scooter 890 019 YAMAHA XMAX 400 Scooter 806 020 DUCATI HYPERMOTARD / HYPERMOTARD SP / HYPERSTRADA Supermotard 766 021 KYMCO K-XCT 300I Scooter 758 022 HONDA VISION 110 Scooter 734 023 KYMCO XCITING 400I Scooter 728 024 YAMAHA XENTER 125 Scooter 664 025 HONDA PCX 125 Scooter 636 026 SUZUKI AN 650 BURGMAN Scooter 618 027 YAMAHA X-CITY 250 Scooter 617 028 KYMCO PEOPLE GTI 300 Scooter 586 029 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 150 RST Scooter 564 030 YAMAHA MAJESTY 400 Scooter 549 031 HONDA PCX 150 Scooter 544 032 HONDA ITALIA XL 700 V TRANSALP Enduro 542 033 BMW C 600 SPORT Scooter 535 034 KYMCO PEOPLE ONE 125I Scooter 526 035 HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL883N IRON 883 Custom 523 036 LML NV 125 Scooter 514 037 KAWASAKI ER-6N Naked 509 038 SUZUKI AN 400 BURGMAN Scooter 499 039 TRIUMPH BONNEVILLE Naked 488 040 HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL1200X FORTY-EIGHT Custom 483 041 TRIUMPH TIGER 800 Enduro 481 042 LML STAR 200 Scooter 476 043 KAWASAKI Z 800 Naked 471 044 BMW F 800 GS Enduro 447 045 PIAGGIO VESPA PX 150 Scooter 442 046 HONDA CROSSRUNNER Turismo 429 047 HONDA SW-T 400 Scooter 414 048 PEUGEOT GEOPOLIS 300 Scooter 391 049 TRIUMPH STREET TRIPLE Naked 388 050 PEUGEOT TWEET 125 Scooter 381 051 MV AGUSTA BRUTALE 800 Naked 375 052 APRILIA SCARABEO 100 4T Scooter 371 053 HONDA CROSSTOURER Turismo 361 054 PEUGEOT TWEET 150 Scooter 359 055 APRILIA SCARABEO 200 Scooter 355 056 KTM 1190 ADVENTURE Enduro 355 057 KYMCO PEOPLE S 200 Scooter 348 058 DUCATI STREETFIGHTER 848 Naked 343 059 YAMAHA XJ6-N Naked 343 060 KAWASAKI VERSYS 650 Enduro 342 061 HONDA CB 500 F Naked 333 062 KAWASAKI Z 750 Naked 331 063 SYM SYMPHONY 125 Scooter 328 064 LML STAR 125 4T AUTOMATICA Scooter 326 065 HONDA ITALIA CBR 600 F Sportive 325 066 APRILIA SCARABEO 125 Scooter 324 067 BMW F 800 R Naked 324 068 YAMAHA FZ8-N Naked 319 069 KYMCO LIKE 125 Scooter 314 070 KTM 125 DUKE Supermotard 310 071 BMW R 1200 GS ADVENTURE Enduro 308 072 PIAGGIO VESPA LX 150 3V Scooter 305 073 BMW R 1200 R Naked 303 074 BMW C 650 GT Scooter 302 075 SUZUKI DL 650 V-STROM Enduro 298 076 YAMAHA XMAX 125 Scooter 278 077 BMW F 700 GS Enduro 277 078 HONDA ITALIA CB 1000 R Naked 277 079 HONDA ITALIA CB 600 F HORNET Naked 275 080 KYMCO G-DINK 300I Scooter 275 081 SYM JOYMAX 300 MY12 Scooter 264 082 PIAGGIO X10 350 Scooter 262 083 MV AGUSTA BRUTALE 675 Naked 257 084 PEUGEOT LXR 200 Scooter 257 085 LML STAR DELUXE 150 Scooter 254 086 PIAGGIO VESPA PX 125 Scooter 247 087 KTM 125 EXC Enduro 245 088 SYM SYMPHONY 150 Scooter 240 089 LML NV 150 Scooter 236 090 HONDA NC700S Naked 221 091 MOTO GUZZI V7 STONE Naked 219 092 PIAGGIO MP3 300 YOURBAN Scooter 219 093 HONDA CB 500 X Turismo 218 094 PIAGGIO VESPA LX 125 Scooter 218 095 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 125 Scooter 217 096 APRILIA SR MAX 300 Scooter 213 097 DUCATI 1199 PANIGALE / 1199 PANIGALE S / 1199 PANIGALE S TRICOLORE Sportive 212 098 KYMCO XCITING R 300 I Scooter 208 099 DUCATI MONSTER 796 Naked 207 100 BETA EVO 2T 300

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I have a friend here in Chiang mai with a Forza and he does ok cutting the traffic here and running between lanes.

I have a Forza and cutting through traffic is not an issue. Naturally being bigger size it does not fit through tight spots, but really hardly a problem.

I agree.....I think the Forza would be great!!!!

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A friend just bought a SYM Joymax 300 they are apparently quite good also, and have a bit more grunt.

CC's are great for sure. I have a Honda Mugen CBR250R with many mods and enjoy the extra power. It's not as comfortable as my SH150 in traffic though. If you want to see a really neat new bike, take a look at the 3rd generation CTX 700cc Honda, (Automatic).

It's beautiful, and comes in close to 400k baht. You can manually shift with buttons, fully automatic, performance mode, and it learn's your driving style.

This years International Motor Show, (and Motorcycle Show) is opening for the public this Saturday the 30th through the following Sunday December 8, at Impact Exhibition Center.

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Of course ride what you want/like/prefer.

I just find it extremely encouraging that after 11 years of producing the SH150, the SH Honda's are the top 3 bikes out of 100, and the SH150 number 1.

This indicates a reputation that's hard to beat, or compare to, and indicates a very reliable, performing bike.

Even the very popular Vespa is scattered out all over the list.

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If one is flush? Let's not forget the BMW scooters!

I was blown away the first time I saw a scooter with a shoulder harness, windshield, windshield wiper, and a top. "The BMW"

BMW's are incredible machines. In America I owned a 335i Twin Turbo, and a 745Li. It would be impossible to sit down with a pen, and paper and write down all the features of these two incredible automobiles.

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Can I point out that last year Honda Thailand sold 2.13 million bikes; as the list and link indicate a total sales of 5271 SH150 being sold I think that the stats are probably just for Italy.

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for only 20,000 thb extra and you also get an ermax windscreen and a givi top box on top which makes the deal a super bargain actually.


each to their own but you couldn't pay me 20,000 to stick one of those screens on my bike.. >>_<\\\\\\\\\\
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for only 20,000 thb extra and you also get an ermax windscreen and a givi top box on top which makes the deal a super bargain actually.

each to their own but you couldn't pay me 20,000 to stick one of those screens on my bike.. >>_<\\\\\\\\\\

Exactly, a wind screen is good to have at over app 120 km/h, below that it's good with some (hot) air in your face/upper body.

I still prefer my PCX and when out riding around in the Pattaya area it looks like I am not alone in that opinion, I only seen one SH150 on the road here and thousands of PCX's, some posters says that the SH150 is well worth the 20k baht extra with the 16" wheels and rear disk brake. The rear drum brake on my PCX is just fine thank you very much and after I fitted YSS rear shocks it handles like a charm and I ride mine like I stole it sometimes.

I laugh my arse off of at anybody who thinks that the SH150 is really worth the 20k baht more than the PCX, nonsense and think about this is Thailand with mainly Thai people buying it, do you think they care about 20k baht difference? Yes they bloody do, only the crazy expats would pay app. 20k baht more for a 150cc Honda scooter with perhaps 5-10 km/h more top speed, get real people, the SH150 will NEVER sell in large numbers here unless the price is compatible to the PCX, no way in hell.

But as OP said: everybody's opinions are like axxxxxxx, everybody got one.

http://motorcycles.about.com/od/honda/fr/2013-Honda-PCX150-Review-Barely-Highway-Legal.htm

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i like Forza 300 more but i fear it is hard to drive in Bangkok. It also looks good. like the red one and large storage under seat that can even swallow two full face helmets!

So for Bangkok, i say honda sh150 and for anywhere outside of Bangkok, i say Honda Forza 300!

I just laugh to the people still finding pcx 150 a better value over sh150i with my ass. Actually, honda sh150 is a much more better value than honda pcx 150. You get better quality, bigger rims, better tires, better brakes, more power, roomy European ergonomics and flat board and the best selling scooter in this world for only 20,000 thb extra and you also get an ermax windscreen and a givi top box on top which makes the deal a super bargain actually. You try to get these for your pcx - if you can of course - you will coughing more than 20 k for sure plus hassle of finding parts and a proper mechanic to install them. Also, Honda sh150i looks safer with higher stance, better components and big wheels and brakes.

moreover, honda sh150i is different and not a common scooter, not may on the roads and looks a premium product from 100 meters away so you will be differentiated on teh roads and honda pcx looks like a plain run of the mill.

both sh and pcx looks ugly imo though.

Yamaha nuovo is the worst choice among these bikes. But the design of new Nuovo 125 looks good somehow to me!

But at the end of the day, all of these scooters will mobilize you enough and haul your ass nicely in Thailand!

Darn Right.....

Mobilize you is the key word!!! They will all get you going fast enough to wear a helmet, and get you from point A, to point B. :-)

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Mmmmmmm, sheep ?

Or just horses for courses.

Not forgetting that the Suzuki New Raider R150 just became available in Thailand again (65,900).....

.....and there's one in my front room. tongue.png

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fastest cub in Thailand and maybe on earth!

good bike suzuki radier 150 is, rode a rented one before. Quite good for islands!

but 66k is a bit too much imo.

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Not forgetting that the Suzuki New Raider R150 just became available in Thailand again (65,900).....

fastest cub in Thailand and maybe on earth!

I think the fastest cub title goes to the old Cagiva Stella ?

OK, lets say this way.

suzuki raider is the fastest 4 stroke cub on earth.

thanks for the reminder.

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Not forgetting that the Suzuki New Raider R150 just became available in Thailand again (65,900).....

fastest cub in Thailand and maybe on earth!

I think the fastest cub title goes to the old Cagiva Stella ?

OK, lets say this way.

suzuki raider is the fastest 4 stroke cub on earth.

thanks for the reminder.

I think I was in Indo when the raider first appeared, where it is called the Satria. Amazing for the time. Then most, if not all, bikes had two valves and along comes Satria with 4. Doesn't sound radical but at the time the biggest cc allowed in Indo was 200.

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I've driven a YNE for the last four years in Phuket. I had never driven a bike before that. It's now my preferred mode of transport over the car. In fact the car sits for weeks without being used. The Thai girl is always on the back of the bike. We have a Click but that rarely gets used.

The YNE is as close to perfect as you can get in that class of bike. The only other bike like it is the Honda Airblade and the YNE is a better bike. It sells for 58k with alloy rims (the new SX is basically the same thing with a fuel injected engine). The PCX is 78k. The PCX is better bike. It's smooth, quiet and handles well. It's an excellent two person bike. I want one. But, I think I can trade in the YNE that has low mileage for a new SX for about 30k. The YNE is just a pleasure to drive and perfect for my beach town.

Drove a 150Hi the other day and it's a cool bike, no doubt. I don't think it's worth another 25k over the PCX. If you've got some extra coin in your pocket and want to drive the coolest motorbike around, that's pretty unique, go for it.

The Forenza is even cooler but we're talking about a much different experience on that bike than at the other end of the spectrum. By the way the CBR bikes seem to be a tremendous value here in Thailand.

I like the Yamaha for the best value here. The PCX is a close second.

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