Gov electric rates up again?

[Paangjang]

Is it true the government electric rates have gone up from ฿5 to 6.5? I remembe a few years ago it going up from 3 to 5, now up to 6.5? This is what my landlady tells me. Is she putting the rate up or is she telling the truth?

[onthedarkside]

Government electric rates have been on the rise this last year. Much is because of an indexed surcharge (something to do with fuel costs). My wife tells me that we should expect steep (?) increase.

But it's not at 5 baht just yet. For sure the gov charge is not 6.5 baht. As far as your landlady is concerned - I have no idea what extras she might factor into the price she charges. My wife is a landlord and she charged 5 baht last year, this year she was forced to increase to 5.5 baht as the money charged to tenants did not cover the bill in from electric co.

[davehowden]

My latest bill looks like about 3.9 baht a unit including VAT.

160 units cost 616.77 baht.

[fcgprg]

My latest bill looks like about 3.9 baht a unit including VAT.

160 units cost 616.77 baht.

Mine is about the same including VAT 3.89 baht.

[Paangjang]

Thanks for the info. But what can i do? It states in my contract that i am to pay government electric rates.... Do i have a foot to stand on if i approach her regarding this near 100% mark up?

[Chicog]

For a start, ask to see the bill, which presumably will show the rate and the additional costs.

[Chupup]

MOVE

[Paangjang]

MOVE

I would "MOVE" but i have a ฿120,000 deposit down on the place and i've invested nearly ฿1,000,000 in equipment & furnishing the place plus developing the business there. Thanks...

[Paangjang]

For a start, ask to see the bill, which presumably will show the rate and the additional costs.

I'll do that tomorrow. Is there usually additional costs then, other than VAT?

[NotEinstein]

If you use more than 400 units:

(((((units used)-400)*3.9361)+1386.69)+((units used)*FuelTarrifAdjustment))*1.07

1368.69 is for the first 400 units and service charge combined.

First 150 kWh (1st–150th) 2.7628Baht/kWh

Next 250 kWh (151st–400th)3.7362Baht/kWh

Over 400kWh (up from 401st) 3.9361Baht/kWh

Service Charge = 38.32

Current FtA = 0.54

VAT 7%

[eyecatcher]

You developed a business there and you don't even have your own stats bills.

Does she charge you for water and telephone.

I would change the name to your own and have the bill left at the premises.

I don't want my landlord knowing the numbers for my business, it may lead them to making assumptions

Sent via tin can and string after pigeon shot

[KhunBENQ]

@NotEinstein has said it all.

Household tarif 1.2.

More details here:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/681007-electricity-cost-bangkok/#entry7028809

There is no such thing as a linear "price per unit".

Ft has gone up slighly, might come down again (not too likely with the falling Thai Baht).

[Paangjang]

You developed a business there and you don't even have your own stats bills.

Does she charge you for water and telephone.

I would change the name to your own and have the bill left at the premises.

I don't want my landlord knowing the numbers for my business, it may lead them to making assumptions

Sent via tin can and string after pigeon shot

Fair point, water is free and telephone bill comes straight to us. I'll talk to her tomorrow but you know what they're like. If she says no and the rate is going up.... What can i do?

[cassde]

My electric bill issued by MEA for November for my condo was 1605 baht for 376 units and works out at 4.26 baht per unit. Your bill is well over.

[Tywais]

As I posted in the other topic, here are real world stats from my house in Chiang Mai for the last 18 months. Also the price trend for the period. Base price and Base+VAT+FT

[Chao Lao Beach]

The more you use, they higher the unit rate. Tops out at about 5 baht these days, not 6.5

[anto]

MOVE

I would "MOVE" but i have a ฿120,000 deposit down on the place and i've invested nearly ฿1,000,000 in equipment & furnishing the place plus developing the business there. Thanks...

Are you for real ? You spent all that on somewhere you just rent ? There is one born every minute .lol

[Tywais]

BTW, there was a report in April of a 35% increase in charges for electricity.

Electricity bills to rise 35% in Thailand

Government blames costly liquefied natural gas for tariff hike.

The Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand expects the electricity tariff will hit US$0.17 (around 5.1 Baht at the time of article) per kilowatt hour, on par with Singapore, in two years due to the rising price of LNG.

EGAT Governor Sutat Patmasiriwat said imports of costly LNG are a major reason for the projected increase in the power tariff from an average of US$0.12 (around 3.6 Baht at time of article) per kWh at present.

- See more at: http://asian-power.com/power-utility/in-focus/electricity-bills-rise-35-in-thailand#sthash.q7Xz9kOe.dpuf

[elektrified]

I'm currently at 3.86 Baht and it appears to have just gone up.

[Paangjang]

MOVE

I would "MOVE" but i have a ฿120,000 deposit down on the place and i've invested nearly ฿1,000,000 in equipment & furnishing the place plus developing the business there. Thanks...

Are you for real ? You spent all that on somewhere you just rent ? There is one born every minute .lol

I've got a 3 year lease on it. What was i going to do, buy the place? 7 11 don't even buy their buildings. I lease all my buildings.

[Naam]

Government electric rates have been on the rise this last year. Much is because of an indexed surcharge (something to do with fuel costs). My wife tells me that we should expect steep (?) increase.

But it's not at 5 baht just yet. For sure the gov charge is not 6.5 baht. As far as your landlady is concerned - I have no idea what extras she might factor into the price she charges. My wife is a landlord and she charged 5 baht last year, this year she was forced to increase to 5.5 baht as the money charged to tenants did not cover the bill in from electric co.

my september bill was (VAT and surcharge included) THB 5.097/kWh.

october and november was lower at THB 4.718 / 4.719/kWh. i am billed mid month to mid month.

lowest unit rate, but highest ever monthly bill total , was march/april THB 4.114/kWh.

[Tywais]

Government electric rates have been on the rise this last year. Much is because of an indexed surcharge (something to do with fuel costs). My wife tells me that we should expect steep (?) increase.

But it's not at 5 baht just yet. For sure the gov charge is not 6.5 baht. As far as your landlady is concerned - I have no idea what extras she might factor into the price she charges. My wife is a landlord and she charged 5 baht last year, this year she was forced to increase to 5.5 baht as the money charged to tenants did not cover the bill in from electric co.

my september bill was (VAT and surcharge included) THB 5.097/kWh.

From your other posts, I guess you've edged into the industrial rates.

[Naam]

Government electric rates have been on the rise this last year. Much is because of an indexed surcharge (something to do with fuel costs). My wife tells me that we should expect steep (?) increase.

But it's not at 5 baht just yet. For sure the gov charge is not 6.5 baht. As far as your landlady is concerned - I have no idea what extras she might factor into the price she charges. My wife is a landlord and she charged 5 baht last year, this year she was forced to increase to 5.5 baht as the money charged to tenants did not cover the bill in from electric co.

my september bill was (VAT and surcharge included) THB 5.097/kWh.

From your other posts, I guess you've edged into the industrial rates.

the difference between your and my unit rate (THB/kWh) is negligible. the big difference is consumption. my average monthly consumption is slightly below 3,000 kWh (share of airconditioning estimated 55%).

[jackr]

Tell your landlady to leave it alone and have the electric people leave the bill at the premises like they're supposed to. It doesn't need to go through her... as soon as it does it is open to padding.

[Paangjang]

Tell your landlady to leave it alone and have the electric people leave the bill at the premises like they're supposed to. It doesn't need to go through her... as soon as it does it is open to padding.

Had this discussion with her yesterday. She actually agreed to it so i must of had some luck on my side...

[infernalman7]

Have anyone here tried to use the TOU (time of use) rates (peak and off-peak different charges)?

Your bill could be much cheaper according to the PEA http://www.pea.co.th/wiki/Pages/wiki_018.aspx

[Aceboy99]

My electric bill worked out to be about 3.5 baht/unit in San Sai, so still quite cheap out here.