webfact Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Thai police chief: No live bullets fired by policeBy Digital ContentBANGKOK, Dec 27 – Thailand’s police chief today stood firm that police did not use live ammunition in yesterday’s crackdown on anti-government protesters at the Thai-Japanese stadium.Pol Gen Adul Saengsingkaew said police strictly followed required steps in dealing with the protesters, starting with a warning before firing tear gas.He refused to answer when asked if police fired rubber and live bullets at the opposite side but insisted that they adhered to crowed-control procedures and would not open fire if the registration venue was not intruded.Regarding a video clip showing policemen hitting a protesters’ vehicle, he said police would urgently investigate the cases. He would not commit to when the probe would be finished.Asked about the diminishing image of the Thai police, Pol Gen Adul said police are obliged to strictly adhere to the law and perform their duties with patience.He said police nationwide were ordered to maintain public order when constituency candidates start their registrations for the February 2 general elections tomorrow. The registrations will be held nationwide through January 1.He confirmed that one police officer was killed and 34 others were injured in yesterday’s clash at the Thai-Japanese stadium.Deputy National Police Chief Worapong Chiewpreecha insisted that police used only tear gas and rubber bullets and followed international standards in dealing with protesters yesterday. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2013-12-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopus1969 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 As with any policeman you take what they say with a pinch of salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldc Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 So, no comment regarding the 4 protestors shot - 1 dead, 3 injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Why would he refuse to answer a key and vital question ? That alone diminishes public confidence and inspires distrust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich teacher Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 December 26, 2013; Anti-government protests escalate into armed insurgency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpuiman Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 As with any policeman you take what they say with a pinch of salt And also any Thai media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny11kk Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Why would he refuse to answer a key and vital question ? That alone diminishes public confidence and inspires distrust. Because he could not! When I watch how the police hitting the volunteer's nurse car, I could not believe they were police. More like terrorists! So the live bullets found on site are supposed to be from the protestors? He didn't has the nerve to say that. So sad for Thai has the corrupted guy to be the police chief! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 December 26, 2013; Anti-government protests escalate into armed insurgency. I will take what they say with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 "Asked about the diminishing image of the Thai police, Pol Gen Adul said police are obliged to strictly adhere to the law and perform their duties with patience." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The police chief's statements seem somewhat contradictory. First he says : Thailand’s police chief today stood firm that police did not use live ammunition in yesterday’s crackdown on anti-government protesters at the Thai-Japanese stadium. Then refuses to say if they fired live bullets : He refused to answer when asked if police fired rubber and live bullets at the opposite side but insisted that they adhered to crowed-control procedures and would not open fire if the registration venue was not intruded. Then says : Deputy National Police Chief Worapong Chiewpreecha insisted that police used only tear gas and rubber bullets and followed international standards in dealing with protesters yesterday. (MCOT online news) Neither does he mention that any of the protesters were shot. The MRS who was there, told me when she phoned at mid day today that there were 3 or 4 people on top of buildings shooting down at them, She did not say which buildings nor who they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 "Asked about the diminishing image of the Thai police, Pol Gen Adul said police are obliged to strictly adhere to the law and perform their duties with patience." Yeah.........right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post diceq Posted December 27, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2013 So, no comment regarding the 4 protestors shot - 1 dead, 3 injured? The media obviously asked but they did not comment on it. Nor did they comment on the dead police officer. Had this happened in Europe or U.S they would have used deadly force, and we wouldn't have been talking about 1 dead and 3 injured. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 December 26, 2013; Anti-government protests escalate into armed insurgency. 3 Protestors with shot wounds, 1 sadly died. Premeditated murder charges for Surapong to follow. Snipers on top of labor Ministry building (Chalerm's office). Sufficient evidence (including images) available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) Why would he refuse to answer a key and vital question ? That alone diminishes public confidence and inspires distrust. Maybe for once this Police guy doesn't want to be caught lying. Edited December 27, 2013 by Nickymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi41 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 So, no comment regarding the 4 protestors shot - 1 dead, 3 injured? Stupid you, they committed suicide!! "Following international standards in dealing with protestors" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The other paper is reporting that the G40 senators turned up at the stadium and were booed and hissed and by the police who then started throwing things at the senators. Nuff said Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spare Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The other paper is reporting that the G40 senators turned up at the stadium and were booed and hissed and by the police who then started throwing things at the senators. Nuff said Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app We ll know that the G40 senators are hand pick by PAD (selected, not elected). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) December 26, 2013; Anti-government protests escalate into armed insurgency. 3 Protestors with shot wounds, 1 sadly died. Premeditated murder charges for Surapong to follow. Snipers on top of labor Ministry building (Chalerm's office). Sufficient evidence (including images) available. Would that be the grainy photos of some people on a roof posted on Facebook? Even if that shows snipers, that is no way proof of anything. Especially since these people were shot with rubber bullets. And how that could lead to premeditated murder charges is just beyond me when the people shot were protesters rioting trying to force their way into a compound where a democratic process was taking place. Who had also been given ample warnings to leave the area. Sadly you say? I say the only good fascist is a dead one. Edited December 27, 2013 by diceq 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokemachine Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Uniform group at the top targeting people. 2nd video showing police providing live ammunitions. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202962855730053&set=a.1565708860327.74165.1163552024&type=1&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=483884898314633&set=vb.372055249497599&type=2&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Its interesting that they would use a faked picture.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Would that be the grainy photos of some people on a roof posted on Facebook? Even if that shows snipers, that is no way proof of anything. Especially since these people were shot with rubber bullets. And how that could lead to premeditated murder charges is just beyond me when the people shot were protesters rioting trying to force their way into a compound where a democratic process was taking place. Who had also been given ample warnings to leave the area. Sadly you say? I say the only good fascist is a dead one. As I posted before the MRs who was there at the time has told me that there were people shooting down from a rooftop. I somehow doubt that rubber bullets have the power to penetrate a skull or a chest cavity on a downward trajectory in order to destroy the liver as happened to the protester who died and another who was injured. They are after all fired from pump action shotguns for the charge does not have the power to operate the mechanism of an automatic shotgun. Then you agree that Abhisit and Suthep should never have been charged with premeditated murder. That is a first, a red telling us that Thaksin the fascist should be dead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaacorp Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Uniform group at the top targeting people. 2nd video showing police providing live ammunitions. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202962855730053&set=a.1565708860327.74165.1163552024&type=1&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=483884898314633&set=vb.372055249497599&type=2&theater First picture show clear wounds made by rubber bulletsThe second video show protesters, farang and police and no proof of live rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 "Asked about the diminishing image of the Thai police, Pol Gen Adul said police are obliged to strictly adhere to the law and perform their duties with patience." Yeah.........right! The other paper is reporting that the G40 senators turned up at the stadium and were booed and hissed and by the police who then started throwing things at the senators. Nuff said Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app It's also in the Thailand today section here. Certainly shows Pol. Gen. Adul thoughts above to be only wishful thinking. While there are some very good cops about sadly the overall diminishing image is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokemachine Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Uniform group at the top targeting people. 2nd video showing police providing live ammunitions. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202962855730053&set=a.1565708860327.74165.1163552024&type=1&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=483884898314633&set=vb.372055249497599&type=2&theater First picture show clear wounds made by rubber bulletsThe second video show protesters, farang and police and no proof of live rounds. You can't see anything in the 2nd video!? No live ammunitions?? Please wear your sighted glasses and watch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 December 26, 2013; Anti-government protests escalate into armed insurgency. 3 Protestors with shot wounds, 1 sadly died. Premeditated murder charges for Surapong to follow. Snipers on top of labor Ministry building (Chalerm's office). Sufficient evidence (including images) available. Would that be the grainy photos of some people on a roof posted on Facebook? Even if that shows snipers, that is no way proof of anything. Especially since these people were shot with rubber bullets. And how that could lead to premeditated murder charges is just beyond me when the people shot were protesters rioting trying to force their way into a compound where a democratic process was taking place. Who had also been given ample warnings to leave the area. Sadly you say? I say the only good fascist is a dead one. Reminds one of Suthep and Abhisit facing murder charges when "ample warning was given to leave the areas" including the live firing zones but I can see that the penny has not dropped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TravellinB Posted December 27, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) Three years ago, protesters were demanding free and fair elections. Today protesers are demanding an end to free and fair elections. Perhaps the Thais should adopt a Korean solution. - A free and open democracy in the North and a Dictatorship for Bangkok and the South. Everybody happy - problem solved. Edited December 27, 2013 by TravellinB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence1366 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 As with any policeman you take what they say with a pinch of salt Saw in Bangkok Post this morning of the riot police surrounding a guy on the floor, kicking and beating him. Sure, no live bullets used. Is this according to international standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a99az Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 So the police use blanks in Thailand!! Bull.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post waza Posted December 27, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) As with any policeman you take what they say with a pinch of salt Saw in Bangkok Post this morning of the riot police surrounding a guy on the floor, kicking and beating him. Sure, no live bullets used. Is this according to international standards? Some more international standard policing Thai style........... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=463717430400309&set=vb.277164659055588&type=2&theater Edited December 27, 2013 by waza 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence1366 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Why would he refuse to answer a key and vital question ? That alone diminishes public confidence and inspires distrust. Because he could not! When I watch how the police hitting the volunteer's nurse car, I could not believe they were police. More like terrorists! So the live bullets found on site are supposed to be from the protestors? He didn't has the nerve to say that. So sad for Thai has the corrupted guy to be the police chief! Saw that the riot police had red scarf around their neck. Are they the red shirt police sent in to stop the protestors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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