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Vote against me if you want me out: caretaker PM
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra yesterday urged her political opponents to go to the polls if they want to remove her from office.

I would like to ask everyone to practice tolerance and let time heal the problem. Problems facing the country are getting more complicated and cannot be solved in one day. If you don't want the government to return to power, you have to fight us in the election. Transform rallies into a force of checks," she said.

On her Facebook page, she said an election was the best medicine to cure political conflicts and the best mechanism to settle issues in a democratic system.

After the House was dissolved, the government could not implement measures to tackle economic problems such as boosting GDP through government spending, so private investment has been unresponsive.

Foreign tourists cancelled their bookings and many countries had warned their citizens against visiting Thailand.

"Let's talk and even though we have different opinions we do not need to be divided. Please do not pass on these conflicts to our children. Turn our differences into a force to solve problems for the country," she said.

Yingluck reportedly stayed at home to rest with her family while monitoring the moves of the People's Democratic Reform Committee to enlist protesters to join the "shutdown" rally on January 13.

Hundreds of provincial police have been mobilised from Bung Kan, Ratchaburi and Nan to stand watch at her home.

Paradorn Pattanatabut, secretary-general of the National Security Council, said security agencies have kept the premier informed on developments of the PDRC rally by briefing her every 15 minutes.


-- The Nation 2014-01-06

Very simple and logical way to do it. No one gets hurt and the ecomony is not effected. The problem is that Suthep and his brainless idiots can't see how easy it really can be. Let the people have the say on election day and if you loose then accept it like adults and not spoilt little rich kids throwing tantrums.

Vote against me if you want me out

So full of confidence... or has her vote buying handout all ready...

Buy against me if you want me out: caretaker PM

Great idea because the Shin dynasty have more money than the opposition with which to buy votes. Without any reform, the election is simply a financial transaction as it is sold to the highest bidder. The number of posts I have seen banging on about a democratically elected government is heartbreaking. How is buying an election democratic?

Great idea because the Shin dynasty have more money than the opposition with which to buy votes. Without any reform, the election is simply a financial transaction as it is sold to the highest bidder. The number of posts I have seen banging on about a democratically elected government is heartbreaking. How is buying an election democratic?

paying people doesn't guarantee they will vote for you. The dems paid my wife's family last time and they voted for Yingluk. Took the money and thought suckers.

People will still vote for whoever they want

Vote against me if you want me out

So full of confidence... or has her vote buying handout all ready...

Maybe this is why,

The South are a minority lead by a EX Corrupt MP who wants power but cant win it.

• Area 1 : 11 provinces with 7,615,610 population - Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Mae Hong Son, Phayao, Nan, Lampang, Lamphun, Phrae, Sukhothai, Tak, and Kamphaeng Phet
• Area 2 : 9 provinces with 7,897,563 population - Nakhon Sawan, Uthai Thani, Phetchabun, Phichit, Phitsanulok, Chaiyaphum, Khon Kaen, Lop Buri, and Uttaradit
• Area 3 : 10 provinces with 7,959,163 population - Nong Khai, Udon Thani, Loei, Nakhon Phanom, Sakon Nakhon, Nong Bua Lamphu, Kalasin, Mukdahan, Maha Sarakham, and Amnat Charoen
• Area 4 : 6 provinces with 7,992,434 population - Roi Et, Yasothon, Ubon Ratchathani, Si Sa Ket, Surin, and Buri Ram
• Area 5 : 10 provinces with 7,818,710 population - Nakhon Ratchasima, Nakhon Nayok, Prachin Buri, Sa Kaeo, Chachoengsao, Chonburi, Rayong, Chanthaburi, Trat, and Pathum Thani
• Area 6 : 3 provinces with 7,802,639 population - Bangkok, Nonthaburi, and Samut Prakan
• Area 7 : 15 provinces with 7,800,965 population - Kanchanaburi, Suphan Buri, Nakhon Pathom, Ratchaburi, Phetchaburi, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Chumphon, Ranong, Chai Nat, Sing Buri, Ang Thong, Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya, Saraburi, Samut Sakhon, and Samut Songkhram
• Area 8 : 12 provinces with 7,941,622 population - Surat Thani, Phang Nga, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Krabi, Phuket, Trang, Phatthalung, Satun, Songkhla, Pattani, Narathiwat, and Yala

paying people doesn't guarantee they will vote for you. The dems paid my wife's family last time and they voted for Yingluk. Took the money and thought suckers.

People will still vote for whoever they want

You keep saying this... not everyone is like your wife's family, many will vote for who paid them...

Vote buying is an excuse. By all accounts,all of the major parties have & continue to use this tactic. Thaksin Shinawatra & family are only the 10th richest in Thailand, according to Forbes (2013), so how is it they they have such overwhelming finances to dominate the political landscape? Newin Chitchob was used by the Dem coalition to outbid PT in the north & north-east, but was spectacularly unsuccessful. The reds/PT called for international observers for the last election, but they were denied by the Dems, who of course don't respect 'farang'.

This is just one of a few choice excuses used by the opposition to try & explain the simple fact that they are not well enough supported to win a general election.

Someone may not understand why Millions of people protesting since over 2 months.

Reform before Election...very easy to understand...

But Ms. Stubborn and the rest of the gang, include their credulous followers think, they can sit it out...

This is the Taksin democracy, thers no place for other meanings, and by the way, this Government is the bankrupt of Thailand.

Elections dont solve the problems, it make them worse...

Little sis announced a while ago that the rice scheme will go on for two more years. That means approxiomately 6 BILLION usd per year. Ergo 12 BILLION USD of state money for the farmers up north. Nobody can beat that level of vote buying.

Edited January 5, 201412 yr by EricBerg

She doesn't stand in the election so cannot be voted against

Someone may not understand why Millions of people protesting since over 2 months.

Reform before Election...very easy to understand...

But Ms. Stubborn and the rest of the gang, include their credulous followers think, they can sit it out...

This is the Taksin democracy, thers no place for other meanings, and by the way, this Government is the bankrupt of Thailand.

Elections dont solve the problems, it make them worse...

Millions protesting are you sure?

Someone may not understand why Millions of people protesting since over 2 months.

Reform before Election...very easy to understand...

But Ms. Stubborn and the rest of the gang, include their credulous followers think, they can sit it out...

This is the Taksin democracy, thers no place for other meanings, and by the way, this Government is the bankrupt of Thailand.

Elections dont solve the problems, it make them worse...

So Thailand should abolish all elections since they make the problems worse?

Very simple and logical way to do it. No one gets hurt and the ecomony is not effected. The problem is that Suthep and his brainless idiots can't see how easy it really can be. Let the people have the say on election day and if you loose then accept it like adults and not spoilt little rich kids throwing tantrums.

That is exactly what they did in 2011, then after 2.5 years of another Thaksin government, Thailand faces economic, political and social collapse. Another popularity contest isn't the answer, political reforms are.

"Vote against me if you want me out: caretaker PM"

The problem isn't how you get in or lose power, the problem isn't in the mechanisms to elect a govt.

The problem is that once in power your govt was corrupt, negligent, authoritarian, prone to abuse of the law and fixated on giving the DL whatever he wanted.

Your party has no respect for legality, compromise, democratic procedure or criticism. It sees power as an opportunity to enrich itself. It sows the seeds of conflict by the manner of it's rule by it's reliance on bullying, intimidation and force to get it's way.

Tell me, how will this election change that?

You have the right to rule, but you have a responsibility to rule for the good of all. I would like to think that when you win this time (and you will) you will rule in a more legitimate manner (you could hardly rule in a lesser one), but I doubt it. I suspect revenge will be a priority for many in PT and after the election it will be the same old same old. Believe me, I hope I'm wrong.

The editorial in the Phuket Gazette very neatly summed up the situation in one sentence. "A nation does not make a better democracy by abandoning democracy."

Didn't people vote against her in the last election?

Her party got less than 50% of the votes.

Since the criminal movement of Suthep has nothing to do with "reforms", but is, in fact, just a way to grab power from the majority, I praise the PM to still patiently call on her opponents to fight her with their votes.

It's funny how some farangs on this forum naively support this "reform before elections' nonsense thing".

Any adult with a bit of judgement can realize that it is only a word, with no real meaning behind...

But, if some are naive, most anti-government farangs don't believe a word of this "great reforms' plan by an unelected group of yellow people" either. They just support Suthep because of their hate for only one man (however irrational this might be), and frantically call on the yellow thugs to do what is needed to destroy democracy, or whatever else, as long as Thaksin feels the pain (and their visa rules are eased). The maturity of these farangs is rather questionable, but nature made us all different, let's accept it...

There is no one on this planet that could explain what Suthep means by "reforms", or any possible way to achieve it ( in 18 month, ah ah ah ), it's only a rethoric.

So, everyone should follow the good and wise advice of PM Yinluck and Jatuporn by going to vote

And vote them in again

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Very simple and logical way to do it. No one gets hurt and the ecomony is not effected. The problem is that Suthep and his brainless idiots can't see how easy it really can be. Let the people have the say on election day and if you loose then accept it like adults and not spoilt little rich kids throwing tantrums.

What is the point of an election when the likely winner will be an autocratic government taking orders from an unelected criminal? There is more to democracy than elections and one man one vote, and the supporters of the losing parties have as much right to a law-abiding responsible government as the winners.

The editorial in the Phuket Gazette very neatly summed up the situation in one sentence. "A nation does not make a better democracy by abandoning democracy."

And what is voting for an autocratic party BUT abandoning democracy?

Vote buying is an excuse. By all accounts,all of the major parties have & continue to use this tactic. Thaksin Shinawatra & family are only the 10th richest in Thailand, according to Forbes (2013), so how is it they they have such overwhelming finances to dominate the political landscape? Newin Chitchob was used by the Dem coalition to outbid PT in the north & north-east, but was spectacularly unsuccessful. The reds/PT called for international observers for the last election, but they were denied by the Dems, who of course don't respect 'farang'.

This is just one of a few choice excuses used by the opposition to try & explain the simple fact that they are not well enough supported to win a general election.

They're probably spending more money on protests than it would cost to buy the votes they need.

The editorial in the Phuket Gazette very neatly summed up the situation in one sentence. "A nation does not make a better democracy by abandoning democracy."

In order to abandon something, you need to have it first.

In the 2007 election Peua Thai and Dems got more or less equal numbers in the Party List system (a more accurate reflection of nationwide support), yet PT got 48% of MPs deems 35%, due to the weighted constituency proportions. Then you have the small parties who will 'go where the money is', so you have a coalition with a strong parliamentary dominance, led by one party which is led by one unelected person, thinking they are 'the majority'. Can't you see the shortcoming then?

Madam, we are not seeking to beat you at the elections we are seeking to hold you, the elected leader, accountable. Something you seem to have overlooked.

I wonder if when Yingluck finally relents her grip on power, if the concept of Perjury will be reintroduced and put back on the Thai law books? One of her only achievements since being inserted to the PM position has been to nullify perjury during her court trial.

"Vote against me if you want me out: caretaker PM"

The problem isn't how you get in or lose power, the problem isn't in the mechanisms to elect a govt.

The problem is that once in power your govt was corrupt, negligent, authoritarian, prone to abuse of the law and fixated on giving the DL whatever he wanted.

Your party has no respect for legality, compromise, democratic procedure or criticism. It sees power as an opportunity to enrich itself. It sows the seeds of conflict by the manner of it's rule by it's reliance on bullying, intimidation and force to get it's way.

Tell me, how will this election change that?

You have the right to rule, but you have a responsibility to rule for the good of all. I would like to think that when you win this time (and you will) you will rule in a more legitimate manner (you could hardly rule in a lesser one), but I doubt it. I suspect revenge will be a priority for many in PT and after the election it will be the same old same old. Believe me, I hope I'm wrong.

Unfortunately, you're right.

BTW may I remind readers that in the last boycotted election, Mr Hubris promised that if his party won LESS votes than in the previous non-boycotted election, he would decline the Prime Ministership.

Result: His party duly won LESS votes than in the previous non-boycoooted election.

Spin: Mr Hubris with the world's biggest shit-eating-grin explaining that, "In percentage terms we got more."

Lesson: The Shinawatras and their allies will say anything to cling on to power.

In the 2007 election Peua Thai and Dems got more or less equal numbers in the Party List system (a more accurate reflection of nationwide support), yet PT got 48% of MPs deems 35%, due to the weighted constituency proportions. Then you have the small parties who will 'go where the money is', so you have a coalition with a strong parliamentary dominance, led by one party which is led by one unelected person, thinking they are 'the majority'. Can't you see the shortcoming then?

Madam, we are not seeking to beat you at the elections we are seeking to hold you, the elected leader, accountable. Something you seem to have overlooked.

I assume you have read the reults. If so, this is, plain and simply, a lie

PTP; 15.7million

Democrats, 11.4m

Please try to make an argument based on something even vaguely approaching the truth. Disingenuous claims are not helpful

Very simple and logical way to do it. No one gets hurt and the ecomony is not effected. The problem is that Suthep and his brainless idiots can't see how easy it really can be. Let the people have the say on election day and if you loose then accept it like adults and not spoilt little rich kids throwing tantrums.

"Tolerance-and let me heal the problem" 3 years you have had to heal the GASH--- pillaging the country--overthrowing court decisions. You are in complete denial and still hope to keep your noses in the trough--PROBLEM is there is no money left in the trough---you all have driven Thailand BUST. PLEASE, you can brazenly stand and say "let me heal the problem"

Sorry you Yingluck lovers As a homely person maybe lovely BUT in control of Thailand along with brother and the rest you have done well for yourselves and now is the time to bow out.

Use the highest court in the land to rake in any guilty corrupt politicians from BOTH sides, the clean ones that are left, form a government and start over.

Yes ALL MPs with sticky fingers. OUT.

In the 2007 election Peua Thai and Dems got more or less equal numbers in the Party List system (a more accurate reflection of nationwide support), yet PT got 48% of MPs deems 35%, due to the weighted constituency proportions. Then you have the small parties who will 'go where the money is', so you have a coalition with a strong parliamentary dominance, led by one party which is led by one unelected person, thinking they are 'the majority'. Can't you see the shortcoming then?

Madam, we are not seeking to beat you at the elections we are seeking to hold you, the elected leader, accountable. Something you seem to have overlooked.

I assume you have read the reults. If so, this is, plain and simply, a lie

PTP; 15.7million

Democrats, 11.4m

Please try to make an argument based on something even vaguely approaching the truth. Disingenuous claims are not helpful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_general_election,_2011

The real story

What is the point of an election when the likely winner will be an autocratic government taking orders from an unelected criminal?

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Ha Ha Ha! Classic example of the idiotic double think spouted by the anti democracy gang. The point of having an election is......so that we don't get an UNELECTED autocratic government taking orders from an unelected criminal. Thaksin is wanted for corruption. Suthep is wanted for murder and treason, in addition to his record of corruption in Phuket.

With an election you can see exactly who you are voting for or against. Who exactly are Sutheps shadowy 'Good People'? Anyone know? Let's have a look at their records. If they are all that 'Good' why don't they step out of the shadows and put their names forward in an open election?