webfact Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Romanian Bank Card Fraudsters arrested in PattayaPATTAYA: -- Two Romanians were arrested by Police in Pattaya on Wednesday accused of using fake bank cards containing stolen UK Bank Account details in various ATM’s in Jomtien.The Siam Commercial Bank alerted the Provincial Transnational Crime Suppression Unit at Pattaya Police Station to two foreign nationals who had used cards to withdraw cash from a number of ATM’s on Jomtien Beach.Undercover officers made their way to the location and spotted two men fitting the description of the men seen on CCTV at ATM’s using the cards to withdraw cash from UK bank accounts.Officers held-back until they witnessed the men attempt to withdraw money again and then moved-in and arrested the pair, Mr. Vasile Dodon aged 30 and Mr. Oleg Sveatobog aged 32 who was also in possession of a Moldovan Passport.Both men were escorted back to their rented apartment where 299 blank cards, a skimming device, a laptop computer, and 32,000 Baht in cash, were seized.Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/114521/romanian-bank-card-fraudsters-arrested-in-pattaya/-- Pattaya One 2014-01-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Certainly seems to be a lot of these characters in Thailand. All this and only 32K hardly seems worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimmybcool Posted January 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2014 I wish they would show what a skimming device looks like. It might help if the public could recognize a compromised ATM machine. Oh and I hope these two are used as ladyboys by the other inmates. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted January 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2014 I wish they would show what a skimming device looks like. It might help if the public could recognize a compromised ATM machine. Oh and I hope these two are used as ladyboys by the other inmates. here is a collection of them, as you can see they come in various forms. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=skimming+devices&qpvt=skimming+devices&FORM=IGRE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygunther Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Best way to avoid manipulating the ATM is the use of the ATM located indoors. Shopping malls have many Banks and ATM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted January 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2014 Dose any one knows what ever happened to all of those guys that are getting caught with those crimes? are they ever prosecuted? if so, what punishment is matted to them? Just wondering.. you get to here how these guys getting arrested on a daily bases, but never know what ever become of them? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Card Posted January 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2014 Must be just having a short holiday on their way to the UK. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Time to get me one of those 'CHIP' cards from the Bangkok bank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hgma Posted January 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2014 My advice? keep your ATM connected account empty, well nearly. Get cash at the counter IN the bank. Nice way to protect yourself from skimming artists and money honey hassles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycoon Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Casual un monitored phone call while in custody and facing serious charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Dose any one knows what ever happened to all of those guys that are getting caught with those crimes? are they ever prosecuted? if so, what punishment is matted to them? Just wondering.. you get to here how these guys getting arrested on a daily bases, but never know what ever become of them? You never hear about these people again because the Thai courts are extremely slow in dealing with all cases. If they plead not guilty they will be in jail for years before receiving a "trial" and then will be found guilty, and a guilty plea may take over 3 months to get finally sentenced. I think they will receive about one year for each card, a maximum of 20 years for a quick guilty plea, no parole but the chance for the occasional King or Queen's amnesties. Fraudsters get very heavy punishments in Thailand, no death sentences but many many years instead. Therefore these two guys are going to be long time residents of this sunny land. Edited January 9, 2014 by Hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotorbreeze Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) From my understanding the latest technology in scanners is reading your card even in your wallet! anyone know of this...I keep mine in a tinfoil sleeve...back in Canada, I have an "Enhanced Drivers License" allows customs in America to get all my information about me from the drivers license that has a CHIP imbedded similar to a credit card ..... when entering the states I hold my license outside the drivers window and proceed slowly and finally stopping at officers window where all my information is on his SCREEN...wow so do criminals have this technology it is a matter of time before this happens here. Edited January 9, 2014 by Rimmer Please DO NOT post in non standard giant fonts thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotorbreeze Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Time to get me one of those 'CHIP' cards from the Bangkok bank! Won't help read my article on how technology for criminals is advancing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loles Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) VLACH GIPSIES ARE HERE how much smart are they? 32 K THB Edited January 9, 2014 by Loles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jomtien Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I dont understand why the banks dont display the ''Card Reader'' mouth opening on the display screen before you enter the card or direct after entering the card. Now the banks just show you some advertising. And it would be an easy fix for the problem. jomtien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiber Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) I wish they would show what a skimming device looks like. It might help if the public could recognize a compromised ATM machine. Oh and I hope these two are used as ladyboys by the other inmates. here is a collection of them, as you can see they come in various forms. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=skimming+devices&qpvt=skimming+devices&FORM=IGRE I found this: http://www.xatrix.org/news/thailand-becoming-top-target-for-atm-hacking-scams-4469/ info about RFID card cloning and other ways of skimming atm cards, there's some advice on using tin foil against RFID thiefs. These kinds of groups are popping up in thaivisa news all the time. I'd say a group per week, at least!! I always try to use atm machines inside shopping malls same as andygunther. Edited January 9, 2014 by phiber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 So sick of these ass ho.e crooks. Only way to stop this is with harsh jail terms. First offense 5 years in BKK Hilton, no pleas, no pay offs to getting out early. The word will quickly get out and these "Quality" people will head to other Countries............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socksy01 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 <deleted> me - Romanians must have run out of ATM's that they've scammed in the UK now they are branching (no Pun intended) out to Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yermanee Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Sometimes it helps to be old fashioned. I don't have an ATM card and don't intend to ever have one. Yermanee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socksy01 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Casual un monitored phone call while in custody and facing serious charges. Agree - probably saying to one of his mates get all the technical equipment and cards out before the Police come round to search the premises. Oh - maybe not, maybe the Cop speaks Romanian fluently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeincnx Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Check with your bank and be sure you have set a limit on "total daily" withdrawals. Otherwise these a*holes can keep skimming, and skimming and skimming until empty. Keep one account with no ATM for the "big baht bucks" and move cash over at the bank counter to your account with the ATM/debit card. Also I get an immediate SMS every time my ATM debit card is used - cheap insurance (some banks may charge about 20 baht a month) and well worth it. The overall banking system here has improved dramatically but some components/basic features are still in the techno stone age. I'm not sure about other banks here but with Kasikorn my ATM does not have my name on it and no pin is needed when purchasing over the counter (stores, restaurants, etc.); screwed if you lose your card and this allows employees to pick off the number and use it at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Regardless of everything else WELL DONE !!! to the Police Good catch....Let's hope the Romanians follow up to 'grab' the Partner who already has a few Mill. Baht in his account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeincnx Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Sooner or later (maybe sooner) you might want to get a good RFID-signal blocking wallet or credit card holder. The prices are really coming down but this is one item where quality should always trump the price. Don't but some cheap knock-off as you won't know if it's working or not.http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=rfid%20wallet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 So sick of these ass ho.e crooks. Only way to stop this is with harsh jail terms. First offense 5 years in BKK Hilton, no pleas, no pay offs to getting out early. The word will quickly get out and these "Quality" people will head to other Countries............. Wrong! Harsh jail terms do not work. Thai jails have loads of these fraudsters living in them and still more keep coming. Perhaps they simply like the sunshine and free Thai food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parabone Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) VLACH GIPSIES ARE HERE how much smart are they? 32 K THB for your knowledge...romanians and gypsies are two different ethnic groups, who share same citizenship. gypsy or not, these 2 chaps deserve jailtime. but please stop bashing romanians. Edited January 9, 2014 by Rimmer Profane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Sometimes it helps to be old fashioned. I don't have an ATM card and don't intend to ever have one. Yermanee Hear, hear, 26 years in Thailand, financially very comfortable, both here an in Oz and never ever used an ATM card and never even posses one, always keep just enough cash around for my weekly spending.... very old fashion... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 yermanee, on 09 Jan 2014 - 11:06, said: Sometimes it helps to be old fashioned. I don't have an ATM card and don't intend to ever have one. Yermanee You can't be very popular with Thai girls then............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOD Robin Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 really look like "quality" tourists..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyao Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Dose any one knows what ever happened to all of those guys that are getting caught with those crimes? are they ever prosecuted? if so, what punishment is matted to them? Just wondering.. you get to here how these guys getting arrested on a daily bases, but never know what ever become of them? You never hear about these people again because the Thai courts are extremely slow in dealing with all cases. If they plead not guilty they will be in jail for years before receiving a "trial" and then will be found guilty, and a guilty plea may take over 3 months to get finally sentenced. I think they will receive about one year for each card, a maximum of 20 years for a quick guilty plea, no parole but the chance for the occasional King or Queen's amnesties. Fraudsters get very heavy punishments in Thailand, no death sentences but many many years instead. Therefore these two guys are going to be long time residents of this sunny land. free lubricants will be gladly excepted by these pair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyao Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Sometimes it helps to be old fashioned. I don't have an ATM card and don't intend to ever have one. Yermanee Hear, hear, 26 years in Thailand, financially very comfortable, both here an in Oz and never ever used an ATM card and never even posses one, always keep just enough cash around for my weekly spending.... very old fashion... just like my ole man ! plus you cannot donate to the police funds with a bit of plastic ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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