Russian RDG-5 grenades used in both Bangkok blasts

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Russian RDG-5 grenades in both blasts
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Evidence found at the scene of bomb attacks on the anti-government protests in Banthad Thong Road and the Victory Monument on Friday and Sunday has revealed the type of explosive used.

Experts say in both cases it was a Russian-made RDG-5 grenade, suggesting the attackers may be from the same group.

RDG stands for Ruchnaya Granata Distantsionnaya in Russian or "Distance Hand Grenade" or "Time-delayed Hand Grenade" in English. It is a post-World War II Soviet anti-personnel fragmentation grenade and was in service by many Russian "client" countries.

Local police have offered no other clue to the source of the bombs used in the attacks.

Experts say it is not an easy explosive to use and only well-trained people can throw it safely as it goes off in four seconds after its pin is released. "Unless the thrower is well trained, the bomb could explode in the air and hurt him," an official said.

The grenade can inflict injuries up to 15 metres from the site of the detonation. Victims caught within 3 metres of the blast site are almost certain to be severely wounded.


-- The Nation 2014-01-21

[Nowhereman60]

Could Putin be involved here?

[terryp]

Thaksins old business buddy Viktor Bout

[andygunther]

How hard can it be to throw a grenade 15 meters, when you have 4 sec. time...

I think most peoples are able to do this!

[Nowhereman60]

Follow the trail Putin ----------------------->Viktor Bout -------------> Suthep

[Loptr]

They might ask their old friend, Viktor Bout.

[AryanicAristocrat]

I suggest that CAPO and Khun Surapong send a team (including Khun Surapong wholoves overseas trips) to go to the US and interview Victor Bout to see if he knows anythng...........Lol!

[whybother]

Follow the trail Putin ----------------------->Viktor Bout -------------> Suthep

What is the link between Bout and Suthep?

[retsdon]

These granades cost $5 apiece wholesale and have been sold worlwide by the milliom. I imagine anyone with a mind to do it could buy a sack of them in Cambodia.

[fleeing]

Follow the trail Putin ----------------------->Viktor Bout -------------> Suthep

What is the link between Bout and Suthep?

Only the link in Nowhereman's head, like a few other links he likes to post about.

[tomross46]

Could this be part of the cargo, which was on that aircraft a few years ago? Where did all those weapons and explosives go?

[JoeThePoster]

RDG stands for Ruchnaya Granata Distantsionnaya

I'm not an expert but it could be RGD.

[Siripon]

These granades cost $5 apiece wholesale and have been sold worlwide by the milliom. I imagine anyone with a mind to do it could buy a sack of them in Cambodia.

When the black shirts were operating in Bangkok in 2010 there were rumours they were ex Thai army based in Cambodia, being flown in and out for operations.

I wouldn't be surprised to find the same thing here.

[mamypoko]

Follow the trail Putin ----------------------->Viktor Bout -------------> Suthep

What is the link between Bout and Suthep?

shrapnel

[Yunla]

Doesn't really matter if the grenades are made in Lapland by Santa's Elves.

This problem isn't related to the bombs or the paid stooges who throw the bombs, it is entirely the fault of the leaders from both sides, who put personal ambitions over the lives of their followers. Anybody could have told you back in November, that if Suthep stayed on the streets and escalated the overthrow movement, guns and bombs would join the equation sooner or later. It is a tinderbox situation and the actions he chose (however honourable or not) could only lead to these current tragedies.

[JRSoul]

The grenade DOES NOT explode 4 secs after the pin is pulled. It explodes 4 secs after the fuse is ignited which occurs as the "spoon" lever is released.

The level of expertise required for use is about the same as hitting someone with a stick.

[tomyummer]

Of course! The Russians have landed! Maybe the Russian mob should run the country. Would have better obedience and no questioning.

[bangkokheat]

those pesky russians, sheeesh

[JHenry]

Ask Mr. Putin to establish the law and order and Bkk will be drivable tomorrow.

[speedtripler]

that granade design is widely copied in china for pennnies,they are widely available allover asia

,africa ,eastern and even western european drug wars between dealers now

[theslime]

Follow the trail Putin ----------------------->Viktor Bout -------------> Suthep

No second prizes after Terryp quip dude.

[Halion]

This article is bullshit and it's intent is to mislead. All grenades are highly dangerous and once the pin is pulled it has no friends, however, the pin can be pulled and you can sit down and have a coffee if you have a mind to as long as you do not release the cocking lever(spoon). When it is thrown the spoon is automatically released and the grenade fusing system is activated initiating the time delay. A dangerous operation but far from difficult requiring only a basic understanding of the arming mechanism a good grip and a strong arm..The comment in the original article claiming that "experts" say that the thrower needs to be well trained is nonsense.

[Nowhereman60]

that granade design is widely copied in china for pennnies,they are widely available allover asia

,africa ,eastern and even western european drug wars between dealers now

Sure you can just order them on E bay or Amazon

[speedtripler]

that granade design is widely copied in china for pennnies,they are widely available allover asia

,africa ,eastern and even western european drug wars between dealers now

Sure you can just order them on E bay or Amazon

whereever you can order them theyve been used in dublin and the uk

and seem to be getting more common

two female uk police officers were blown up last year by a coke dealer

who threw these grenades at them

[MyFriend You]

How hard can it be to throw a grenade 15 meters, when you have 4 sec. time...

I think most peoples are able to do this!

Straighten the pin first

good grip on grenade and safety lever, pull pin out slowly

throw it as far as you can and run like hell

John Wayne never threw a live grenade, don't try it like him in the "Sands of Iwo Jima"

4 seconds is not a long time, and sometimes grenades go off in two, or six seconds - or not at all.

BTW saw a bunch of these in Vietnam war, both hand thrown & rifle launched - notoriously effective, much better than the Chinese Palm Z's.

[MyFriend You]

those pesky russians, sheeesh

but they are fun to drink with sometimes...............as long as they leave their grenades at home.

[Thait Spot]

Follow the trail Putin ----------------------->Viktor Bout -------------> Suthep

What is the link between Bout and Suthep?

Only the link in Nowhereman's head, like a few other links he likes to post about.

Missing Link? Nowhereman60?

[rickirs]

Maybe the work of some of Suthep's "southern friends" that he brought to Bangkok. Maybe the Syrian Army, Hamas, Taliban, or Al Qeada? If these grenades had been used in Mynamar, even Buddhist monks might be suspect. The world is flooded with these kinds of mass produced, cheap weapons that a moron can use and obviously do use. The bottom line is that police need to do their job to identify and prosecute the perpetrators and not incite mobs to decide the guilty.

[evadgib]

The grenade DOES NOT explode 4 secs after the pin is pulled. It explodes 4 secs after the fuse is ignited which occurs as the "spoon" lever is released.

The level of expertise required for use is about the same as hitting someone with a stick.

Not quite; The inexperienced can end up 'Juggling'

Edited January 21, 2014 by evadgib

[casualbiker]

that granade design is widely copied in china for pennnies,they are widely available allover asia

,africa ,eastern and even western european drug wars between dealers now

Sure you can just order them on E bay or Amazon

Here you go. RDG5 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/aw/d/4041007526