Naam Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I don't want to be mean to the OP because I think his sentiment expressed is a common one, which is that Bangkok traffic is terrible and sitting in traffic appears boring and tedious however as a Bangkok driver, I can assure him that it is much more relaxing sitting in my freezing air conditioning than walking around in the blistering heat, getting in and out of crappy taxis, riding with the BTS jammed in like sardines and breathing in germs or on a motorbike in the heat and exhaust fumes and battling the elements. It will hurt OP's feelings but he has no frame of reference. If he had the opportunity he would find out that there is really no going back. It will hurt OP's feelings but he has no frame of reference. there must be more than a dozen threads, not only concerning cars but other subjects too, in which bitterly frustrated and financially handicapped expats not only vent their displeasure and judgment but adding strong insults based on pure stupidity. in housing threads i read more than once utmost silly comments such as "why would i need a house with two bedrooms? i can only sleep in one!" Naam, surely not all of the posts are from these financially handicapped farangs/expats. Indeed, I doubt there are many TRUE expats (as opposed to immigrants) who are so handicapped. I know I'm not. Would you argue against my earlier points that there is an aspect of some Asian culture and certainly Thai culture whereby FACE is the driving force behind these scenarios? Be honest and argue your point. I think I can keep up with you intellectually, and I will honor your replies by responding in debate form to every single one of them. no PaullyW i wouldn't argue and admit that "face" is one (but not the only one!) driving factor behind it. having said so i would like to point out that "face" or whatever you call it is not limited to Asian or Thai culture. you find this or similar factors in virtually all countries and societies, starting with "keeping up with the Jones's". our discussion is interesting but i think we are quite off topic because the focus is the derogatory and silly core of the opening post "driving a Benz equals shitty life!" please don't tell me you believe that this was what the OP really thought when waiting for his free bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang000999 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) The big giveaway in the OP is when he claims the rich guy looked at him and had an epiphany about how much wiser the OP was for walking through traffic fumes to Big C than he was sitting in his car. Apparently that was a really telling look he gave OP, the mind reader. Edited February 8, 2014 by farang000999 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyguyinthailand Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 I don't want to be mean to the OP because I think his sentiment expressed is a common one, which is that Bangkok traffic is terrible and sitting in traffic appears boring and tedious however as a Bangkok driver, I can assure him that it is much more relaxing sitting in my freezing air conditioning than walking around in the blistering heat, getting in and out of crappy taxis, riding with the BTS jammed in like sardines and breathing in germs or on a motorbike in the heat and exhaust fumes and battling the elements. It will hurt OP's feelings but he has no frame of reference. If he had the opportunity he would find out that there is really no going back. It will hurt OP's feelings but he has no frame of reference. there must be more than a dozen threads, not only concerning cars but other subjects too, in which bitterly frustrated and financially handicapped expats not only vent their displeasure and judgment but adding strong insults based on pure stupidity. in housing threads i read more than once utmost silly comments such as "why would i need a house with two bedrooms? i can only sleep in one!" and rent out the other 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyguyinthailand Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) The big giveaway in the OP is when he claims the rich guy looked at him and had an epiphany about how much wiser the OP was for walking through traffic fumes to Big C than he was sitting in his car. Apparently that was a really telling look he gave OP, the mind reader. I don't think I ever said wiser. but what I meant was: How it sucked not to really be able to drive that car. Edited February 9, 2014 by crazyguyinthailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyguyinthailand Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) I agree the OP is ridiculous. Maybe that hi-so in the benz is enjoying himself. If that's the only time in the day when he has a minute to himself then maybe he couldn't give a dam_n how long he's stuck for. How would you know? I cant know 100% but I decided to write this post after I've seen a lot of Benz inside Bangkok stuck in the jams for long time. Edited February 9, 2014 by crazyguyinthailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Image is everything. Particularly so here. If your image is not sufficiently rich in prestige, you will not get the co-operation (read: favours) of the people you have to deal with. That is the way this society is. There are exceptions of course, many business owners might try and hide their wealth (think Silom Chinese shophouse trader or Phetchabun Hmong market gardener) as the people they have to deal with would consider a flashy car as an opportunity to press for a better deal. Horses for courses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyguyinthailand Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Image is everything. Particularly so here. If your image is not sufficiently rich in prestige, you will not get the co-operation (read: favours) of the people you have to deal with. That is the way this society is. There are exceptions of course, many business owners might try and hide their wealth (think Silom Chinese shophouse trader or Phetchabun Hmong market gardener) as the people they have to deal with would consider a flashy car as an opportunity to press for a better deal. Horses for courses. Thanx Briggsy. of all the people at Thai-visa who loves to call themselves expats and act like they know everything about Thailand. only you and a few others could really answer my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrepidtourist Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Stupid insight. A Mercedes or any expensive car is a lifestyle statement of success not a vehicle to move from point A to point B. The traffic and scooter analogy is totally incorrect . Impossible is a human invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I wonder why the persons with nice cars don't put their small kids in car seats ( or even seat belts) in BKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 From my long time here, i conclude that many but, not all Ex Pats have given away their B.M.s and Benzes in the form of Houses , Feeding the Hammock Swingers and Sic Buffalos, then wake up in a Truck , bleating about rich people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmat Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 For the first six months after we arrived in Bangkok we had a driver. She was great and knew the city like the back of her hand but I quickly got fed up with sitting in traffic jams for hours just to travel a few kilometres. Yes, sitting in the back in air-conditioned comfort playing on the iPad is no hardship but taxis, BTS, MRT, BRT and, god forbid, walking can usually get you from A to B in ola fraction of the time. Hulkklk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Posted 2014-02-08 08:47:14 thats the old price..... http://cars.aol.co.u...ls-for-445-000/ Not a Limo but here in Thailand a SWB 600 for 5.4 million baht. http://www.carkolorclassics.com/ Mercedes Benz 600 SWB Limousine W100 Original V8-engine with 6,332 cm³ and 250 hp. Black colour and red leather interior. http://www.thaiautovintage.com/web/home.php often has interesting old Benz cars For Sale other than that there a a number of early 90s S Class 500 Limousine here eg: http://showroom.one2car.com/carDetail.aspx?car_id=g07100232 Edited February 11, 2014 by ignis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Because they are rich. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Because they are rich. Because they pretend to be? Why is it that Thailand has one of the highest rates of stolen and illegally imported luxury vehicle markets in the world? Because most people can't really afford to buy them clean. There are not many rich Thais. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandbeachisland Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I wonder why the persons with nice cars don't put their small kids in car seats ( or even seat belts) in BKK Because rich or poor they all are stupid brainless ? But the rich have less excuse, they have time and possibility to understand that they are stupid ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandbeachisland Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Because they are rich. Because they pretend to be? Why is it that Thailand has one of the highest rates of stolen and illegally imported luxury vehicle markets in the world? Because most people can't really afford to buy them clean. There are not many rich Thais. Where does this info come ? Never heard that people drive stolen benz and bmw here, this is not Europe and it sounds ridiculous to say that because how could they find stolen luxury cars in Thailand when the countries around are not a lot more developed than here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Why do people buy Lexus ? Lots here and go to any border in Cambodia there appears lots... RX 270 over 4.1 - 4.4 million baht. Fortuner 2.7 cost 1.2 million baht. Edited February 16, 2014 by ignis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayongchelsea Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Proportionately there were more expensive cars on the road pre- Asian crisis. 1996 sukhumvit was flooded..all these rich sitting on the bonnets of their expensive cars..I am sure the op would have liked that. Cars are a status obsession. Buy a condo for 6 million, buy a BMW for 3 million...no real logic.. What surprises me is how some farangs who marry Thais buy into this.. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyguyinthailand Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I don't want to be mean to the OP because I think his sentiment expressed is a common one, which is that Bangkok traffic is terrible and sitting in traffic appears boring and tedious however as a Bangkok driver, I can assure him that it is much more relaxing sitting in my freezing air conditioning than walking around in the blistering heat, getting in and out of crappy taxis, riding with the BTS jammed in like sardines and breathing in germs or on a motorbike in the heat and exhaust fumes and battling the elements. It will hurt OP's feelings but he has no frame of reference. If he had the opportunity he would find out that there is really no going back. It will hurt OP's feelings but he has no frame of reference. there must be more than a dozen threads, not only concerning cars but other subjects too, in which bitterly frustrated and financially handicapped expats not only vent their displeasure and judgment but adding strong insults based on pure stupidity. in housing threads i read more than once utmost silly comments such as "why would i need a house with two bedrooms? i can only sleep in one!" Note that I mean expensive cars ONLY in BKK not in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Same as in any other country......because they can 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyguyinthailand Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Why do people buy Lexus ? Lots here and go to any border in Cambodia there appears lots... RX 270 over 4.1 - 4.4 million baht. Fortuner 2.7 cost 1.2 million baht. An American guy told me everything about that. I don't remember everything he told me. but If I remembered right most of those Lexus cars comes from the US at a really good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandbeachisland Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Buying a Lexus instead of a Benz or BMW I still don't understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driedmango Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 this topic just weird, some guy is wating for the stinky, crowed public transit by Big C and sees someone in a fine car in a trafic jam and has a delusion that his life is better, and that had he been a rich thai he would drive a cheap car and walk around ? you gotta be kiding me man, the difference between a fine german car a cheap asian one is astounding, everything from saftey, seats, motor.. the way the trunk closes.. if you can afford someone well made, go for it, thats the point of making money.. i am sure the guy was looking at the window, maybe the worst part of his day was being stuck in traffic looking at all the poor farang slobs out there trying to swish their way on public transit ? just saying.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driedmango Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 ps.. if i was rich i would be modest as possible and try not to show off, but i sure as hell wouldn't risk my life on a motorcycle or suffer the crap common boring car if i didn't have to.. there is more reasons to own a fine german car then making poor people envy you.. some people don't get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driedmango Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I wonder why the persons with nice cars don't put their small kids in car seats ( or even seat belts) in BKK Because rich or poor they all are stupid brainless ? But the rich have less excuse, they have time and possibility to understand that they are stupid ! most rich people work really hard everyday man... get a grip, where do you think they get money from ? lol.. on the other hand, it's the people who can't afford a good life that really seem to pick at the ones that do well and the 1st chance they get to make some money there they are, worse than anyone in the world about it all.. seen it a million time, just like hippies all sold out, so would you.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driedmango Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Stupid insight. A Mercedes or any expensive car is a lifestyle statement of success not a vehicle to move from point A to point B. The traffic and scooter analogy is totally incorrect . Impossible is a human invention it's not true man, trust me i have a 30 year old Mercedes because they are completely awesome, long lasting, well built safe cars... they are well selling good cars period, if your out and about you migh love to know the best engneriing is inside ofyour suspension and the like.. on the other hand ever have a friend that bought and broke down in a kia or ford taurus, or crashed in a honda civic ? you buy good things because they last longer and do their job better, they cost more and some people are deulusional enough to wonder why people just dont go for the cheap option. i will ask you why you don't drink the tap water and chooose a cheaper place to fly to like mexico 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Because we can! Good thing they could not read the numberplate isn't it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtomtom69 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 No big deal. I spend a lot of my time in Singapore and Mercedes are a dime a dozen. Even many of the taxis are Mercedes. The traffic in Singapore is not much better than in Bangkok, but at least in Thailand you have a 'hinterland' where you can go on weekends and open it up a bit. No such thing in Singapore. And to make matters worse, high end cars are much more expensive in Singapore because of a special government tax on vehicles (a Honda Civic will put you back over US$100,000). Yet every day in Singapore you will see people driving around in Porsches, Lamborghinis, etc etc (people who wouldn't be caught dead in a Mercedes). It's part of Chinese in Singapore here... showing off your wealth and success. Perhaps the Sino-Thais of Bangkok are no different... Traffic in Singapore is significantly better than in Bangkok - and people can actually drive which makes a refreshing break. That's not my experience of living Singapore. Traffic's better, but not a whole lot. That said, I avoid Bangkok as much as I can. The other thing to keep in mind is that there are functional road cameras along all of Singapore's highways (90kph limit) so even if traffic is light, there's not much you can do. Back in Canada, if you were on the 401, doing 120 would put you in the slow lane. Are you saying they don't have speed limits in Canada? Sure, it's not as low as 90km/h but 120 being slow sounds a bit far fetched to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 No big deal. I spend a lot of my time in Singapore and Mercedes are a dime a dozen. Even many of the taxis are Mercedes. The traffic in Singapore is not much better than in Bangkok, but at least in Thailand you have a 'hinterland' where you can go on weekends and open it up a bit. No such thing in Singapore. And to make matters worse, high end cars are much more expensive in Singapore because of a special government tax on vehicles (a Honda Civic will put you back over US$100,000). Yet every day in Singapore you will see people driving around in Porsches, Lamborghinis, etc etc (people who wouldn't be caught dead in a Mercedes). It's part of Chinese in Singapore here... showing off your wealth and success. Perhaps the Sino-Thais of Bangkok are no different... Traffic in Singapore is significantly better than in Bangkok - and people can actually drive which makes a refreshing break. That's not my experience of living Singapore. Traffic's better, but not a whole lot. That said, I avoid Bangkok as much as I can. The other thing to keep in mind is that there are functional road cameras along all of Singapore's highways (90kph limit) so even if traffic is light, there's not much you can do. Back in Canada, if you were on the 401, doing 120 would put you in the slow lane. Are you saying they don't have speed limits in Canada? Sure, it's not as low as 90km/h but 120 being slow sounds a bit far fetched to me. "Although the speed limit is 100 km/h on most divided highways in Ontario, Klimek said in reality the average speed is already about 120 km/h." http://www.thewhig.com/2012/06/05/calling-for-higher-speed-limits ... average speed is 120 means that 40%+ cars are going faster than you. They will be in the fast lanes. You better stay out of their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 As ExpatOilWorker said, because we can. Me and my family drive a BMW and I cant any reason why we cant. I am also an Expat Oil Worker and can afford it that is why we bought it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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