Yingluck blames anti-government protests for rice-pledging problems

[bubblegum]

Somebody should buy Yingluck a calender asap. She probably doesn't realize that October(when the money was due) is a few months before January(beginning of the protest). Can't really blame the pupet PM, it's a shocking failure of Kentucky State Uni to not teach the kids about months of the year.

They also forget to teach English. As for the lying and cheating could be it's in her Shin genes or she learned it working in a GO GO Bar.

[Nickymaster]

An old Mongolian proverb which say

" If you want to know the road ahead, ask those who are returning"

As a supporter of Yingluck, do you have any idea why they are not selling some of the 20 billion kg's rice they have in stock to pay the suffering farmers?

[Why ask]

An old Mongolian proverb which say

" If you want to know the road ahead, ask those who are returning"

An old Chinese proverb which say If a man takes no thought about what is distant, he will find sorrow near at hand. Confuse us. Yingluck are you there?

I once had a history professor at university that said; "Confusion is the beginning of all understanding" I don't know is not an answer.

Don't seek answers to questions, but first an understanding of the questions themselves.

[jaidam]

What a filthy, shameless liar. This was a failure from the beginning, failed before any protests-and the graft started as soon as the scheme was launched. The money disappeared, which means it is in her pockets-billions.

She has her's coming, along with her family; that's for sure.

Hope the farmers don't tolerate anything less than her resignation. At least its a serious lesson in who not to vote for. All that was ever received from this scamming family was loans with high interest, debt...other little so called goodies that just came from the blood sweat and tears of taxpayers. Time for airhead to experience those same feelings.

It's not strictly accurate to call the scam a failure. It dpends on who you are asking as to whether it is a failure or not. Khun Arisman, champion of the reds, would not call it a failure as he became so wealthy overnight that it was possible for him to buy a fleet of wide-body jets and open a commercial airline. Khun Thaksin, hero and champion of the poor, would not call the scam a failure. He boasted to Forbes last October(when the rice payments were due to be made to the farmers) that his govt sent him 30 billion baht. Quite a result by any standards.

Those that would call it a failure are the long-suffering farmers that voted this rabble of thieves into power, those that deposited money into the Thai banking system that is ungraciously collapsing as we speak. So we can conclude that it was a "selective" failure. I suggest the rice farmers have a good hard think before either trying to hold the world to ransom for their produce, and before believing proven liars so easily.

[jocko]

Clinging on to the precipice with her long talons hoping her big brother is ready to catch her.

[mrtoad]

What a disgusting political whore Yingluck is. The last acts of a soon to be impeached caretaker PM.

Dubai awaits another Shin

[fredob43]

SHE IS RIGHT ITS YOU GUYS ARE ALL MIXEED UP, just like a Mongolian omlet

Ok I'll bite please explain how ANY her policies have benefited the Thai people, and I'm not talking about her lot who have pocketed Millions of BHT. Tip, it had better be good or you will make yourself seem even sillier than you do at present. I await with bated breath. Edited February 18, 2014 by fredob43

[Local Drunk]

An old Mongolian proverb which say

" If you want to know the road ahead, ask those who are returning"

An old Chinese proverb which say If a man takes no thought about what is distant, he will find sorrow near at hand. Confuse us. Yingluck are you there?

I once had a history professor at university that said; "Confusion is the beginning of all understanding" I don't know is not an answer.

Don't seek answers to questions, but first an understanding of the questions themselves.

No disagreement there... If you don't understand the question or problem, then you can't be confused. If you can't be confused then you aren't thinking.

[bigbamboo]

An old Mongolian proverb which say

" If you want to know the road ahead, ask those who are returning"

Old American proverb say,

"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining."

[Nickymaster]

What a disgusting political w...e Yingluck is. The last acts of a soon to be impeached caretaker PM.

Dubai awaits another Shin

Yes now we are finally witnessing a real Thaksin. Must feel good for Yingluck after 2.5 years of acting.

[Thait Spot]

An old Welsh proverb says that "she who listen badly understands badly"

I fully expect Suthep to now sue her for libel

[tingtongdingdong]

And that Ms. Yingluck....... is the wrong answer.

yingluck is a sexy woman

[pkspeaker]

People here are speaking from ignorance, read a letters in today's bangkok posts (tuesday), there are 2 good letters, one against the farm subsidy and one for it, lets not forget that both europe and the us have huge farm subsidy programs but here it's called a 'scam' 'vote buying'.. farm subsidies in developed countries have historically been credited with raising living standards.. The banking sector here is full of antidemocracy-pro suthep activists so everytime the Yingluck administration goes to borrow some money to pay the debt (because the government has limited powers due to its caretakers status that the democrats forced on the country) there is this big 'revolt' from the middle level employees.

if it is 'vote buying then fine, yingluck will be forced to cancell it if it's too expensive and the spoiled brat party can win an election legitimatly..

by bthe way the % of the national budget that is the rice subsidy is less than 8%, why arn't all the other entitlement programs called vote buying?

Edited February 18, 2014 by pkspeaker

[huanga]

A "crime" has, indeed, been committed. A policy that fails at its core and the supposed beneficiaries became the victimized. Something to the tune of 8 or 9 people have committed suicide due to the hardship that they had faced. But I think a bigger "crime" has been committed but no many people are discussing of it yet. Who will ultimately be responsible for the totality of loss of this "scheme/scam"? Hard earned tax money from any and every ordinary, hard working citizens from all walks of life has been ill-squandered. Are we or can we hold this incompetent administration responsible? I think this should be a more of a outrage for everyone who is paying tax to these "animals" that they call politicians here!

[Thait Spot]

So - with Yingluck now crawling out from hiding beneath her bed for several weeks and attempting to belatedly show some gumption coupled with the hard lined attempts to regain the proitest sites, it seems that the caretaker government has got itself a new set of mops.

With the farmers this is a very risky policy - one that is likely to backfire.

Arresting protesters - well we will see what happens there but I would expect they won't take it lying down

[djjamie]

This proves yingluck is not running the country (yes, yes she is the pm). She is a lot of things, but she is not a demagogue. thaksin is a demagogue. These are thaksin's words.

yingluck says things like "Please don't hurt the Generals feelings. He is standing right next to me"

A demagogue is someone “that preaches facts he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots”.

Of course she didn't come out to speak to the farmers. That would have been unscripted, not controlled by thaksin and would have put the pm exposed to accountability by the farmers.

Where did she say the above statement? Yep, in a special televised program" where there are no "hard" questions. No surprises. Every thing is controlled and scripted.

This is why you never ever see yingluck facing the voice of the majority in public. Puppets work in controlled circumstances. Leaders that have nothing to hide, that have no guilty conscience and that respect the voters would face them and answer the hard questions.

She refuses to even debate the farmers on live TV. A person that is proud, courageous and steadfastly defended a scheme that she has hailed a success for 3 years would fall over themselves to be heard on TV. To shut the critics up and to make people understand the scheme is the success she makes it out to be. But no. Nothing. Not a word.

In the right kinda light you could just about see the strings on her wrists during the special televised program.

Edited February 18, 2014 by djjamie

[thesetat2013]

The problem here is no reporter is allowed to ask proper investigation questions that would make YL or the gov look bad to the people like how is it the protesters fault when this money should have been paid months before any protesting began. Or why the gov lied about the G2G contracts. Or why YL doesnt know what city she is in when speaking to her people. Or even why she cant follow thai laws and be accept responsibility for her minions actions and has always blamed someone else.

Even now she uses the SOE to control what the people are told.

If this country wasnt in asia she would have been ousted long ago by some report showing details about her fabrications. Credible details like they get in other countries. If the people were more informed they would see the truths and the lies more clearly.

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[Fryslan boppe]

".....seized the farmers as hostage in their political game to bring down her government"

This is the prevailing POV amongst the electoral majority...As opposed to using the term "hostage' I would probably describe it more as a form of using these ricefarmers as "Pawns".

It explains why the self-righteous bleating and phoney attempts by the coup-mongers and their shadowy supporters to all-of-a-sudden become champions of farmers rights is so out-of-historical context for them.

It is also a prevailing view among the electoral majority who selected this Govt., that the PTP is far too timid in defending themselves. It is a common complaint that all the elements associated with the Elitist side of the track, from street coup-mongers up their food-chain, too often go unchallenged. When in fact there is ample evidence to counter their noise.

Good for Ms. Y. to at least address what is commonly accepted by her political base....If the coup-mongers think they have had a free shot using these farmers as pawns, that has only resonated with their own kind.......The UDD/RS/PTP electoral majority know full well where the resistance has come from in compensating these farmers, as Ms. Y. has articulated.

Edited February 18, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[robblok]

People here are speaking from ignorance, read a letters in today's bangkok posts (tuesday), there are 2 good letters, one against the farm subsidy and one for it, lets not forget that both europe and the us have huge farm subsidy programs but here it's called a 'scam' 'vote buying'.. farm subsidies in developed countries have historically been credited with raising living standards.. The banking sector here is full of antidemocracy-pro suthep activists so everytime the Yingluck administration goes to borrow some money to pay the debt (because the government has limited powers due to its caretakers status that the democrats forced on the country) there is this big 'revolt' from the middle level employees.

if it is 'vote buying then fine, yingluck will be forced to cancell it if it's too expensive and the spoiled brat party can win an election legitimatly..

by bthe way the % of the national budget that is the rice subsidy is less than 8%, why arn't all the other entitlement programs called vote buying?

Some people never get it.. the reason its such a low percentage is because it never took into account the real losses. That is the beauty of this program for the reds. They maintain there are no losses till the rice is sold and even then they keep it secret. They value the rice at the value they bought it not market value.. else the whole percentage would be much higher.

There is no problem to help farmers.. but do it in a direct way and cut out the middle man. This program also failed to help the most poor farmers and only the richer ones. The most poor farmers ate their own rice.. its those that need to be supported not the large land owners.

Also because no quality measures were in place the quality of rice went down.. farmers would get paid anyway.

All in all failed in this form. That does not mean that helping farmers in a transparent way less prone to corruption is bad.

[Jimmu]

People here are speaking from ignorance, read a letters in today's bangkok posts (tuesday), there are 2 good letters, one against the farm subsidy and one for it, lets not forget that both europe and the us have huge farm subsidy programs but here it's called a 'scam' 'vote buying'.. farm subsidies in developed countries have historically been credited with raising living standards.. The banking sector here is full of antidemocracy-pro suthep activists so everytime the Yingluck administration goes to borrow some money to pay the debt (because the government has limited powers due to its caretakers status that the democrats forced on the country) there is this big 'revolt' from the middle level employees.

if it is 'vote buying then fine, yingluck will be forced to cancell it if it's too expensive and the spoiled brat party can win an election legitimatly..

by bthe way the % of the national budget that is the rice subsidy is less than 8%, why arn't all the other entitlement programs called vote buying?

The problem seems a little difficult for some people! it is not a debate about subsidies per se, rather about the theft of rice from workers that could really do with the money.

[siampolee]

Yingluck, of course it's all some other persons fault she is absolutely correct in her statement.

The blame for the whole fiasco must be laid at the feet of none other than her brother and his cronies.

They've ( The Shinwara clan) have collected their dividend payments but the workforce have collected the debt notes for and on behalf of the Shinwatra clans crusade to establish a new ruling political dynasty (Dictatorship)

The Thai farming sector among many other sectors have become the prime unwitting guarantors of the Shiwatra personal wealth creation programme.

Edited February 18, 2014 by siampolee

[Scamper]

Feeble. Feeble. Feeble. Yingluck is now pushing the line that the protesters are responsible for the fact that the farmers have not been paid. The farmers have not been paid since October, two months before parliament was dissolved. As a caretaker administration they are forbidden from delegating monies. Suthep - in an incredulous about-face - has actually called for the banks to issue the loans - which legally they cannot. But that naturally doesn't fall into Yingluck's narrative, so it doesn't get mentioned at all. Instead, she attempts to pit the farmers against the protesters - that Thida/Jataporn line went out with the do-do bird. They don't buy it anymore.The factors that have prevented Yingluck from paying the farmers are not the protesters, but -

- caretaker status

- the EC

- the NACC

- the constitution, through a myriad of articles

- the national banks

- banking unions

Is this list so hard to grasp ?Another thing Yingluck failed to mention was the line that the reason she didn't meet with the farmers was because they were " fake farmers " and Yingluck only meets with " real farmers ". That didn't get mentioned in her televised address. Strange.The most important thing, though, that was not included in her address was to offer any form of a long-overdue apology to the farmers whatsoever. Again, that is something that is outside Pheu Thai's and Thaksin's taste. Pheu Thai doesn't do apologies. Pheu Thai doesn't make mistakes. Because as far as they are concerned - the rice scheme and how it was handled was just dandy. But in the end - who is really Yingluck speaking to ? Who is Yingluck addressing ? Is she speaking to the 59 % of the Thai people that want her to resign ? Is she speaking to the farmers - the vast majority of whom now turn off their TVs in disgust at the mere sight of her ? Or perhaps she is speaking to all the people who do not support this government ? And if so, are these words and accusations supposed to sway them over to her side ? Or perhaps she is speaking to the international media ? Is this what she wants them to see - a diatribe of reasons why everyone is conspiring against her administration ? She had better success with facebook.

Edited February 18, 2014 by Scamper

[Goat Roper]

That right put the blame where it belongs. Farmers are not very smart they been duped by Suthep.

Please explain. How has this been done?

[HaleySabai]

Of course you do! That's what your government has always done, blame other people for it's own incompetence and inadequacies. No one forced the farmers to do anything. They're here protesting because you lied to them and have not paid them in months. You lied again and did not pay them yesterday. Now they want your blood. But hey, it's easy to blame the protestors rather than yourselves right?

you are nothing but another spoon-fed echo of hand-me-down propaganda.... so sure that what you see is actually there.....puppet?

[Yunla]

Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Tuesday blamed the delaying in overdued payment under rice-pledging scheme on anti-government demonstrations.

Propaganda requires at least a tiny soupcon of credibility to result in successful deception. I'm surprised that such a prolific liar as Yingluck hasn't learned that basic rule yet.

The statement above isn't just doubtful, anybody with a calender and a biro can chart the dates when rice was exchanged and then tick off the substantial number of pre-PDRC months in which the payment for said rice failed to appear. I have houseplants smart enough to draw the obvious conclusion from this.

Jawdropping.

[gerry1011]

I think that everybody already understood that Suthep's intention is to avoid at all costs that the farmers get their money.

But there is no harm in Yingluck emphasizing Suthep's and the Dem's dirty games aimed at gaining power over the majority through criminal and unconstitutional means...

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[whybother]

I think that everybody already understood that Suthep's intention is to avoid at all costs that the farmers get their money.

But there is no harm in Yingluck emphasizing Suthep's and the Dem's dirty games aimed at gaining power over the majority through criminal and unconstitutional means...

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Yes, pointing out the corruption in the rice scheme, and the care-taker government's unconstitutional attempts at getting loans to pay 5 month overdue rice pledging payments is really dirty, isn't it?

[Red Snake]

That right put the blame where it belongs. Farmers are not very smart they been duped by Suthep.

Please explain. How has this been done?

I am not going to waste my time trying to explain to you. You would never understand anyway. Like talking to a brick wall.

[whatsupdoc]

That right put the blame where it belongs. Farmers are not very smart they been duped by Suthep.

Please explain. How has this been done?

I am not going to waste my time trying to explain to you. You would never understand anyway. Like talking to a brick wall.

You mean you have no explanation?

[Mister Fixit]

So, nothing do do with her and her previous Government's total incompetence as politicians, then? Pass the buck and deny everything, that's the Thai way ...