Thailand: Political chaos claims fourth child victim

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Political chaos claims fourth child victim
The Nation

Parents hold up banners

Shooting heard in three sites in Silom; woman driver promises serious payback

BANGKOK: -- A five-year-old girl yesterday succumbed to injuries sustained when unknown attackers hurled grenades and fired at a rally site of anti-government protesters in Trat.

Dr Anurak Amornphetsatha-porn, director of the Emergency Public Health Service Office of the Public Health Ministry, said Natchaya Rosungnern gave up the fight at the Rayong Hospital at 2.20pm yesterday.

The child had been injured by a bomb fragment and went brain dead before succumbing to injuries.

She was the second person to die from an attack launched against People' Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) protesters in Trat's Khao Saming district on Saturday and the fourth child to have been killed in the ongoing political turmoil.

The first victim, also a five-year-old girl, was pronounced dead on Sunday. Apart from these two children, 33 other people were also injured in the attack in Trat.

Separately, in the early hours of yesterday morning, a series of bombs exploded and gunshots were heard in the Silom area near the PDRC rally, which is based near the Sala Daeng intersection. The gunfight reportedly lasted for several hours, injuring two people.

At 2am yesterday, bombs exploded and gunshots were heard in front of Thaniya Plaza on Silom Road. Two PDRC guards were injured in the attack, but are said to be in stable condition. Gunfire was heard in three spots around Silom, namely the Wireless Road intersection, Sarasin intersection and the Henri Dunant intersection.

According to a guard, a woman drove to the area at 8pm on Monday night, asking if she could drive through the protest site near Lumpini Park. When the guard said no, she told him to be ready for a heavy payback.

Then at about 1am yesterday, a PDRC guard said three to four men showed up and started firing at them when the guards tried to stop them. Two guards were injured. Shots were also fired from an unidentified van.

PDRC leader and former Democrat MP Thaworn Senneam inspected the site yesterday morning and called on the Army to send in personnel to beef up security. He also put the attack down to the government.

Lumpini police visited the scene after sunrise yesterday, saying they could not enter the area earlier because the PDRC guards would not let them in.

Chalerm Yoobamrung, chief of the Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO), said there were no less than 500 armed men at the four PDRC protest sites and that he knows what sort of weapons they are using.

He went on to say that the PDRC was not a simple protest group calling for democracy, but a gang of "armed bandits" attacking its own people in a move to create a climate for military intervention.

In a related development, deputy spokesperson of Democrat Party Jurin Laksanawisit called on the police to send more officers to ensure safety of protesters.

Also yesterday, Lt-General Paradorn Pattanatabut, who oversees, the National Security Council (NSC) said it was possible that the people behind the attacks were linked to the violence before the 2006 coup as claimed by Chalerm, or linked to the attacks in 2010 as claimed by Army Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha.

However, he admitted that more investigation was needed.

He also alleged that former communist leaders could be behind the spate of attacks, adding that the violence was aimed at making it appear as if the government was behind the attack.

The NSC chief said former communists leaders were embedded within the PDRC corps and that there were no foreign mercenaries operating in Thailand. Paradorn acknowledged that it was difficult to deal with these armed groups as the law limits the government in what it can do. He also called on the attackers to not use grenades or bombs as it causes harm indiscriminately.


-- The Nation 2014-02-26

[tezzainoz]

The only fact here is

That a group of violent thugs are causing trouble and death to innocents in BKK

The protestors are saying it the government and the government are saying it the protestors wanting a Coup

My Thai wife has said to me on many times that Taskin knows he can not win so will do anything to make sure that his followers are the innocent party

A coup would give them the proof they when thrown out by a military force and give them evidence they need to show the world this was undemocratic

The protestors want the government to loose because they corrupt they want the army only to help safety, this is no win if there is a coup

That would be winning by default and that is not a win

This is not about winning and becoming the next Government

This is about for once and for all, cutting the ropes that hold Thailand in to the corrupt past and start a new Thailand

This can not be achieved by a Coup

It can only be achieved if the corrupt are stopped from closing all the books so no one can see the truth

As this is her country I guess this is what really matters

My only question is why are there so many farang who do not want the Thai people to see the books and have them audited

to have a new start for Thailand the financial books must be made available for accountability before any reform can take place

If Yingluck is innocent let her face the people

I would like to see 10 people chosen from both sides

and a public debate on TV where both side must answer the questions from the people

[Yunla]

RIP little girl. My prayers are with her family at this terrible time.

[andygunther]

Sadly when innocent children gets affected.

R.I.P. Little girl.

[hanno]

Both sides have to accept responsibility for the slaughter of innocent people and, in particular, children. The rhetoric employed by people on either side of the divide is entirely responsible, rhetoric that leads people stupid enough to not realize that they are being played by power-hungry thugs to commit these atrocities.

RIP to all the victims, especially the children and I do hope that those really responsible rot in hell.

[newcomer71]

R.I.P. innocent angel... Your life was stopped by the hands of evil criminals.

I wish to my sincere condolences to her family and I wish no more deaths on both sides, but just common sense and dialogue will prevail.

Who dares to write political posts in this thread is a heartless human.

Edited February 26, 2014 by newcomer71

[ivoms]

When will thaksin have to pay for all of this destruction. Thailand would be the richest country in south east asia. If not for him.

[Artisi]

Too sad to make any sensible comment other than -- please stop the carnage.

[ratcatcher]

The only fact here is

That a group of violent thugs are causing trouble and death to innocents in BKK

The protestors are saying it the government and the government are saying it the protestors wanting a Coup

My Thai wife has said to me on many times that Taskin knows he can not win so will do anything to make sure that his followers are the innocent party

A coup would give them the proof they when thrown out by a military force and give them evidence they need to show the world this was undemocratic

The protestors want the government to loose because they corrupt they want the army only to help safety, this is no win if there is a coup

That would be winning by default and that is not a win

This is not about winning and becoming the next Government

This is about for once and for all, cutting the ropes that hold Thailand in to the corrupt past and start a new Thailand

This can not be achieved by a Coup

It can only be achieved if the corrupt are stopped from closing all the books so no one can see the truth

As this is her country I guess this is what really matters

My only question is why are there so many farang who do not want the Thai people to see the books and have them audited

to have a new start for Thailand the financial books must be made available for accountability before any reform can take place

If Yingluck is innocent let her face the people

I would like to see 10 people chosen from both sides

and a public debate on TV where both side must answer the questions from the people

".....the financial books must be made available for accountability...."

The books have already been cooked and are probably in the process of being burnt.

[rebelplatoon]

Sad Sad Sad. Idiots that keep on saying its the protesters doing this probably have not even been to the sites. It is a pretty peaceful bunch and even though I am not a Suthep fan (because he is in it for his own reasons) he repeats the mantra "no violence" constantly to his followers. Toxin must be brought to justice. His sister will now do a very important job at this stage.... visit the Northern provinces... Sure great chance for some photo opps with followers in the provinces that got all the money from this regime. Meanwhile people are dying. Innocent people and bystanders as well.

[smileydude]

The sad reality is life is not fair and as in this case the innocent suffer while the guilty roam free (in Dubai).

I dare not imagine what agonizing grief the parents must be going through especially the couple that lost both their children.

RIP and may justice prevail somehow.

[hanno]

Sad Sad Sad. Idiots that keep on saying its the protesters doing this probably have not even been to the sites. It is a pretty peaceful bunch and even though I am not a Suthep fan (because he is in it for his own reasons) he repeats the mantra "no violence" constantly to his followers.

I am not sure that Suthep can control each and every one of his followers. I passed the demonstration site at MBK yesterday and some of the people there certainly seem ready for violence, wearing body armor and face masks. And there was plenty of violence last week when the police tried clearing the protest sites.

[antimedia]

The only fact here is

That a group of violent thugs are causing trouble and death to innocents in BKK

The protestors are saying it the government and the government are saying it the protestors wanting a Coup

My Thai wife has said to me on many times that Taskin knows he can not win so will do anything to make sure that his followers are the innocent party

A coup would give them the proof they when thrown out by a military force and give them evidence they need to show the world this was undemocratic

The protestors want the government to loose because they corrupt they want the army only to help safety, this is no win if there is a coup

That would be winning by default and that is not a win

This is not about winning and becoming the next Government

This is about for once and for all, cutting the ropes that hold Thailand in to the corrupt past and start a new Thailand

This can not be achieved by a Coup

It can only be achieved if the corrupt are stopped from closing all the books so no one can see the truth

As this is her country I guess this is what really matters

My only question is why are there so many farang who do not want the Thai people to see the books and have them audited

to have a new start for Thailand the financial books must be made available for accountability before any reform can take place

If Yingluck is innocent let her face the people

I would like to see 10 people chosen from both sides

and a public debate on TV where both side must answer the questions from the people

In answer to your question on the farangs, simple; they live, visit and / or use Thailand for their own jollies because they are outcasts, losers and brain dead ignoramuses in their own country.

[Artisi]

The only fact here is

That a group of violent thugs are causing trouble and death to innocents in BKK

The protestors are saying it the government and the government are saying it the protestors wanting a Coup

My Thai wife has said to me on many times that Taskin knows he can not win so will do anything to make sure that his followers are the innocent party

A coup would give them the proof they when thrown out by a military force and give them evidence they need to show the world this was undemocratic

The protestors want the government to loose because they corrupt they want the army only to help safety, this is no win if there is a coup

That would be winning by default and that is not a win

This is not about winning and becoming the next Government

This is about for once and for all, cutting the ropes that hold Thailand in to the corrupt past and start a new Thailand

This can not be achieved by a Coup

It can only be achieved if the corrupt are stopped from closing all the books so no one can see the truth

As this is her country I guess this is what really matters

My only question is why are there so many farang who do not want the Thai people to see the books and have them audited

to have a new start for Thailand the financial books must be made available for accountability before any reform can take place

If Yingluck is innocent let her face the people

I would like to see 10 people chosen from both sides

and a public debate on TV where both side must answer the questions from the people

In answer to your question on the farangs, simple; they live, visit and / or use Thailand for their own jollies because they are outcasts, losers and brain dead ignoramuses in their own country.

whereas you are bright, highly intelligent and god's gift to the world.

[SeaVisionBurma]

Inappropriate remarks removed (along with a reply which quoted the post)

[Artisi]

Both sides have to accept responsibility for the slaughter of innocent people and, in particular, children. The rhetoric employed by people on either side of the divide is entirely responsible, rhetoric that leads people stupid enough to not realize that they are being played by power-hungry thugs to commit these atrocities.

RIP to all the victims, especially the children and I do hope that those really responsible rot in hell.

To rot in hell is insufficient punishment for these low-life's, I hope their crotch is infected with a thousand hungry camel fleas.

[klauskunkel]

The NSC chief said former communists leaders were embedded within the PDRC corps

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, I don't know.

I do know, however, that former communist leaders are definitely embedded within the Red Shirts/UDD...and very highly embedded, too...so highly embedded actually, I'm talking silk sheets and feather down...sleep on that Mr. NSC chief!

Edited February 26, 2014 by klauskunkel

[Prbkk]

Very sad. One thing The Nation will not focus on: the funeral yesterday of the second police officer to die in the Phan Fag Bridge incident. It is reported in the Bangkok Post. 28 years old, finishing a degree , didn't take sides in the conflict but according to his wife , just wanted to do his duty. Leaves a 4 year old son, Atom, who is said to be confused about the loss of his Dad. Also very sad.

[Suriya4]

Sad Sad Sad. Idiots that keep on saying its the protesters doing this probably have not even been to the sites. It is a pretty peaceful bunch and even though I am not a Suthep fan (because he is in it for his own reasons) he repeats the mantra "no violence" constantly to his followers.

I am not sure that Suthep can control each and every one of his followers. I passed the demonstration site at MBK yesterday and some of the people there certainly seem ready for violence, wearing body armor and face masks. And there was plenty of violence last week when the police tried clearing the protest sites.

Children will have to learn early that No Thaksin, No Corruption.

. No use shutting their eyes.

[robblok]

Very sad. One thing The Nation will not focus on: the funeral yesterday of the second police officer to die in the Phan Fag Bridge incident. It is reported in the Bangkok Post. 28 years old, finishing a degree , didn't take sides in the conflict but according to his wife , just wanted to do his duty. Leaves a 4 year old son, Atom, who is said to be confused about the loss of his Dad. Also very sad.

Sad true.. but can't compare to what (in my opinion) was a terrorist attack in trad done by the reds. Pickups driving to a peaceful protest throwing in grenades and spraying the protesters with heavy automatic weapons.

And supported by some red leaders (fact)

The police officer was there in a line of duty and trying to evict protesters.

Both sad but of a different scale.

[webfact]

Girl, 5, succumbs to wounds from Trat rally attack
By Digital Content

RAYONG, Feb 26 – A five-year-old girl who was wounded in an attack on an anti-government rally in the eastern seaboard province of Trat was pronounced dead yesterday.

The girl, identified as Natchaya Rosoongnern, had been hospitalised at a hospital in neighbouring Rayong province.

She was shot in the head at a rally site of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) on Saturday night.

Meanwhile, the Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) decided to unfreeze the bank accounts of 38 key PDRC leaders in accord with the Civil Court’s ruling which allowed Seri Wongmontha, a PDRC leader, to withdraw money from his CMPO-frozen accounts.

Tarit Pengdith, CMPO member and Department of Special Investigation (DSI) director general, called on conflicting parties in the political unrest, to be patient and avoid public activities that could lead to violence given the deteriorating domestic situation.

He said the DSI would seek the Constitution Court’s verdict on whether the PDRC’s demonstrations are lawful or not, in order to take the judgement to substantiate an appeal with the court.

The Civil Court earlier allowed the government to continue enforcing the state of emergency but prohibited the CMPO from cracking down on PDRC protesters who have demonstrated peacefully.

The CMPO plans to appeal the Civil Court’s ruling. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2014-02-26

[Suriya4]

Too sad to make any sensible comment other than -- please stop the carnage.

Farang always criticize Thai for involving Children in an up raising flight for a better tomorrow.

Are you sure Farang don't involve children to take up arms to fight the corrupted government?

Say the French revolution? The most celebrated painting is of a Mother and her child (bearing arms) on her right.

[Local Drunk]

Very sad. One thing The Nation will not focus on: the funeral yesterday of the second police officer to die in the Phan Fag Bridge incident. It is reported in the Bangkok Post. 28 years old, finishing a degree , didn't take sides in the conflict but according to his wife , just wanted to do his duty. Leaves a 4 year old son, Atom, who is said to be confused about the loss of his Dad. Also very sad.

And there are the parents who are confused about the loss of their children. It's an ugly situation no matter one's politics, and I'm sure that violence is a place that no member here wants to visit. Thank you for this post Prbkk, and I hope that young Atom has a strong family to get him through it.

[newcomer71]

Deleted post.

Edited February 26, 2014 by newcomer71

[newcomer71]

Very sad. One thing The Nation will not focus on: the funeral yesterday of the second police officer to die in the Phan Fag Bridge incident. It is reported in the Bangkok Post. 28 years old, finishing a degree , didn't take sides in the conflict but according to his wife , just wanted to do his duty. Leaves a 4 year old son, Atom, who is said to be confused about the loss of his Dad. Also very sad.

Sad true.. but can't compare to what (in my opinion) was a terrorist attack in trad done by the reds. Pickups driving to a peaceful protest throwing in grenades and spraying the protesters with heavy automatic weapons.

And supported by some red leaders (fact)

The police officer was there in a line of duty and trying to evict protesters.

Both sad but of a different scale.

I beg to differ. No matter which side are you on. Both are violent deaths, both with huge repercussions on families.

Death has no color, no red, no yellow, no brown. Death is only sad. Provoked and violent death is sad and criminal.

Peace to all families involved, and eternal dam_n to all perpetrators. May them all rot in hel_l. No distinctions.

Edited February 26, 2014 by newcomer71

[Artisi]

Very sad. One thing The Nation will not focus on: the funeral yesterday of the second police officer to die in the Phan Fag Bridge incident. It is reported in the Bangkok Post. 28 years old, finishing a degree , didn't take sides in the conflict but according to his wife , just wanted to do his duty. Leaves a 4 year old son, Atom, who is said to be confused about the loss of his Dad. Also very sad.

Sad true.. but can't compare to what (in my opinion) was a terrorist attack in trad done by the reds. Pickups driving to a peaceful protest throwing in grenades and spraying the protesters with heavy automatic weapons.

And supported by some red leaders (fact)

The police officer was there in a line of duty and trying to evict protesters.

Both sad but of a different scale.

completely agree with your comments, but remember Prbkk has an red agenda which is his prerogative, however I also agree with his comment re the police officer who died and shouldn't be forgotten, especially the reason why he was there, which was solely at the behest of his useless boss and his handler.

[outsider]

Say what you would, this has to stop. Regardless of whether it was done by the yellows, reds, whites, pinks, blacks and whatever stupid colour-groups there are. Taking a human life is never justifiable, let alone the life of kids! My prayers are with the dead police, the student and those still hurt from the clashes, and my heart goes out to the families and loved ones who have to endure the pain of loss... but <deleted>... these are just innocent children. 'Unecessary' doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about their departure...

May the heavens bless your souls and keep you safe, dear little ones.

Edited February 26, 2014 by outsider

[boomerangutang]

I hate to say it, but it's time to ratchet up the dynamics. I'd suggest added police be posted in and around the protest rallying centers. It's known that police side with the Shinawatre power structure, however, they can still (hopefully) do the job of trying to protect peaceful protesters and their kids. If police can't do that job, (or even get some useful ID on the vehicle carrying the murderers), then it might necessitate army troops. However, using military to provide security is fraught with possible problems. Military aren't versed in crowd control or subtleties of doing police-like interactions with crowds (though Thai police are supposed to be trained in that, they often fail). Military are primarily trained to kill enemies. A quote from a Bruce Willis action movie, discussing a similar dynamic; "The army cuts with a broad sword."

[hellodolly]

The only fact here is

That a group of violent thugs are causing trouble and death to innocents in BKK

The protestors are saying it the government and the government are saying it the protestors wanting a Coup

My Thai wife has said to me on many times that Taskin knows he can not win so will do anything to make sure that his followers are the innocent party

A coup would give them the proof they when thrown out by a military force and give them evidence they need to show the world this was undemocratic

The protestors want the government to loose because they corrupt they want the army only to help safety, this is no win if there is a coup

That would be winning by default and that is not a win

This is not about winning and becoming the next Government

This is about for once and for all, cutting the ropes that hold Thailand in to the corrupt past and start a new Thailand

This can not be achieved by a Coup

It can only be achieved if the corrupt are stopped from closing all the books so no one can see the truth

As this is her country I guess this is what really matters

My only question is why are there so many farang who do not want the Thai people to see the books and have them audited

to have a new start for Thailand the financial books must be made available for accountability before any reform can take place

If Yingluck is innocent let her face the people

I would like to see 10 people chosen from both sides

and a public debate on TV where both side must answer the questions from the people

Very well said.

I to have wondered

My only question is why are there so many farang who do not want the Thai people to see the books and have them audited

to have a new start for Thailand the financial books must be made available for accountability before any reform can take place

I am not going to accuse any one and people may draw their own conclusions. But i would bet those are people against exposing the whole sordid affair are people with a work permit.

[hellodolly]

Very sad. One thing The Nation will not focus on: the funeral yesterday of the second police officer to die in the Phan Fag Bridge incident. It is reported in the Bangkok Post. 28 years old, finishing a degree , didn't take sides in the conflict but according to his wife , just wanted to do his duty. Leaves a 4 year old son, Atom, who is said to be confused about the loss of his Dad. Also very sad.

Sad true.. but can't compare to what (in my opinion) was a terrorist attack in trad done by the reds. Pickups driving to a peaceful protest throwing in grenades and spraying the protesters with heavy automatic weapons.

And supported by some red leaders (fact)

The police officer was there in a line of duty and trying to evict protesters.

Both sad but of a different scale.

completely agree with your comments, but remember Prbkk has an red agenda which is his prerogative, however I also agree with his comment re the police officer who died and shouldn't be forgotten, especially the reason why he was there, which was solely at the behest of his useless boss and his handler.

It is indeed sad that he died and left a child with out a father?

I guess now we will get another heart felt announcement of condolences for the senseless killing of the latest child from Yingluck on her Facebook.

That is the kind of people that are the cause of the many deaths and injuries in this confrontation. Heartless money and power seeking people with no remorse what so ever.