BSJ Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Arrrrh! Just after I put the VTX back together and start it....the fuel hose (high pressure) between the tank and inlet manifold burst. Now short of getting a new one from the states, I was kinda hoping I could get a local company to use my old banjos and fit a new hose. Anyone know the location of a place that can do the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 BSJ where are you. Do you know what pressure you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdf Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 "Need a fuel hose guy to swag my banjos" That is a new one, I thought I had heard it all living in Pattaya for quite a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 "Need a fuel hose guy to swag my banjos" That is a new one, I thought I had heard it all living in Pattaya for quite a while. Sorry, I came to this thread for all the wrong reasons too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Excuse me Mr BSJ but I think the word you're looking for is "swage" as the word "swag" as this word means a blanket roll carried by "Swaggies" (hobo's) in Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreandre Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Excuse me Mr BSJ but I think the word you're looking for is "swage" as the word "swag" as this word means a blanket roll carried by "Swaggies" (hobo's) in Australia! You're right, but not many swaggies have a banjo on hand to swag either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 cant you use a hydraulic line ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) If the hydraulic hose is ethanol resistant. I was thinking polyurethane but don't know want the fuel pressure is on a VTX.I have used Swagelok PB air tubing for the oil cooler on my Honda. (because it was "available" ) OK for 350 psi and about 250F and it is Buna-N so is ethanol compatible.Just secure it with two hose clamps Edited March 4, 2014 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) If the hydraulic hose is ethanol resistant. I was thinking polyurethane but don't know want the fuel pressure is on a VTX. I have used Swagelok PB air tubing for the oil cooler on my Honda. (because it was "available" ) OK for 350 psi and about 250F and it is Buna-N so is ethanol compatible. Just secure it with two hose clamps It's running at 343 kPa (3.5 kgf/cml , 50 psi). I am not feeling confident about a hose with clamps! I am in Pattaya. And to all the funny buggers who think it is swage....very amusing. Banjo Patterson would be rolling in his grave! Edited March 4, 2014 by BSJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreandre Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 If the hydraulic hose is ethanol resistant. I was thinking polyurethane but don't know want the fuel pressure is on a VTX. I have used Swagelok PB air tubing for the oil cooler on my Honda. (because it was "available" ) OK for 350 psi and about 250F and it is Buna-N so is ethanol compatible. Just secure it with two hose clamps It's running at 343 kPa (3.5 kgf/cml , 50 psi). I am not feeling confident about a hose with clamps! I am in Pattaya. And to all the funny buggers who think it is swage....very amusing. Banjo Patterson would be rolling in his grave! Yes Mr Banjo Paterson would indeed be.. even more so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreandre Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) If the hydraulic hose is ethanol resistant. I was thinking polyurethane but don't know want the fuel pressure is on a VTX. I have used Swagelok PB air tubing for the oil cooler on my Honda. (because it was "available" ) OK for 350 psi and about 250F and it is Buna-N so is ethanol compatible. Just secure it with two hose clamps It's running at 343 kPa (3.5 kgf/cml , 50 psi). I am not feeling confident about a hose with clamps! I am in Pattaya. And to all the funny buggers who think it is swage....very amusing. Banjo Patterson would be rolling in his grave! My old Nissan 300Z had a dozen or more clamps on the fuel injection system and was at about 90 psi i was told..If factory is satisfied then your 50psi is not a worry. My old ones lost tension so were replaced with new version.. You could use these with full confidence IMO Edited March 4, 2014 by andreandre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreandre Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 If the hydraulic hose is ethanol resistant. I was thinking polyurethane but don't know want the fuel pressure is on a VTX. I have used Swagelok PB air tubing for the oil cooler on my Honda. (because it was "available" ) OK for 350 psi and about 250F and it is Buna-N so is ethanol compatible. Just secure it with two hose clamps It's running at 343 kPa (3.5 kgf/cml , 50 psi). I am not feeling confident about a hose with clamps! I am in Pattaya. And to all the funny buggers who think it is swage....very amusing. Banjo Patterson would be rolling in his grave! My old Nissan 300Z had a dozen or more clamps on the fuel injection system and was at about 90 psi i was told..If factory is satisfied then your 50psi is not a worry. My old ones imagemagic.jpg lost tension so were replaced with new version..imagemagic.jpg You could use these with full confidence IMO Left it too late to edit..but the screwtype clamp is the old style, the double type is newer version... good luck, but is an easy fix..just not as attractive as the swaged banjo one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Well andreandre, I happened to find a tiny shop up Sukhumvit Rd just near the ramp that takes you to Hwy 7, East side of Suk, and the guy working there told me he didn't do fuel lines, just hydraulic. But he did give me a vague idea where there is a shop that does fuel lines about 2km further North on Suk. So tomorrow I travel to North Pattaya for further adventures! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 BSJ I sent you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 BSJ I sent you a PM. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Banjo joints are bullet proof but rely on soft washers for the seal. Soft copper or alloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Two things to consider when you are swaging two banjos on one hose for fuel lines. 1. You must get the orientation right as you cannot rotated one end, once the other is fitted, so before you dismantle the old hose make a note of the position of the banjos in relation to each other. 2. Most companies making up new hoses will be using hose suitable for mineral oil hydraulic fluid, not the fuel you are using. Google the material used for hydraulic fluid and see if it is also suitable for gasahol. Or buy the fuel line (hard) and take it in to the fitter, he may need trial and error to get the swage tight enough. There is one other issue, some banjos have the swaging collars built in, in which case your old banjos will be useless, so I would get new banjos anyway, they are not expensive and usually a standard size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 It turned out to be mission impossible! I got fuel hose off my regular parts guy and put double spring clamps on each end. Not leaking, so that will do! Screw clamps are no good for moderate to high pressure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Screw clamps are no good for moderate to high pressure. CropperCapture57.jpg I'm going to have to disagree here as I have used screw clamps up to 6 or 8 bar. A search for "fuel injection clamps" reveals that the majority of pictures look like this Edited March 10, 2014 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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