Ko Tee admits organising 'Red Riot' Forces

[marcusd]

Red shirt apologists will have a tough time with this one. Ko Tee's like Jatuporn on steroids. The problem is that we already know what these people are capable of. We remember the massive arson which devastated downtown Bangkok in 2010 and we remember the looting of the department stores. For those who do not remember ( or choose not to remember ), listen to Ko Tee words today ...

" According to Mr. Wuttipong, some members have to take loans from banks to help organize their local underground groups. "

Ko Tee's memory needs to be jolted. Two days ago, a tape of Ko Tee went viral. All the news agencies reported on it. It is the tape that started it all. It called for the looting of money from ATMs belonging to the Thai Military Bank, as well as other banks, including Bangkok Bank and Krungri Bank. Speaking to Khaosod today, Ko Tee refers to " bank loans ". He apparently realized that his celebrated tape ( which is now a part of historical fact, like the infamous UDD secession tape ) made it clear he was talking about bank heists. The army has the tape ( as does everyone else ). They should now take him to court on the basis of it. Today, note Ko Tee's comment about the independent agencies ...

" They want to deny her even a country to live in," Mr. Wuttipong complained. "

He of course knows that the independent agencies never said any such thing. Suthep did, and for that he should be held to account. But the independent agencies have never ever made such a statement. But that doesn't suit Ko Tee's purposes, does it ? He needs to find a reason - any reason - outside of Bonnie and Clyde, presumably - to justify bank heists to a public who remember all too well how stolen designer clothes and jewels advanced the cause of democracy in 2010.

Dont waste any more money on this numbscull. Just place a piece of lead between his eyes Mr Army general. You have you man of insurrection now what more do you need for an excuse.

[PepperMe]

From a MILLION FIGHTING FOR DEMOCRACY to several hundred still looking to be equipped.

OK BOYS time to take your pills and go to bed.

I said before, I live in Chiang Mai, red to the core a few years ago but RED now maybe but not RED SHIRT UDD or Yingluck.

Wow..... So it is happening there as well?

In Korat was the same.... very huge red support, but no longer... It is mostly Dem now. They hate Thaksin here, they hate Yingluck here and they hate the red shirt movement.

They are a diminishing minority, and even 1000 baht would not get them a vote here now.

So it is the same story in CM now?

This government are all but over..... bring on the new election and when the Dems win, crush the red shirt movement once and for all.

[Artisi]

15 mins of fame for 15 years in jail. Not a good trade.

15 years in gaol, more likely 15 seconds of fame Sae Daeng style.

[pmugghc]

But why hasn't he been arrested yet??? This has been going on for a few weeks now.

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[notmyself]

So how much smack talk does it actually take to get locked up around here?

Sent from somewhere in the Pacific

Suthep is still out and about running around so I guess it takes at least more than 4 months worth.

but suthep isnt telling people to arm themselcves and rob banks etc as well as start killing people if he doesnt get his way, he is doing it legally not forming a terrorist organization for the current govt.

Hmmm. Some of the times Suthep has been doing these last 4 months are certainly not legal but the basis of your point is entirely valid. On the whole, the protests have just been people walking around during the day followed by speeches early evening then live bands and lots of food. When the red shirts come to town for a party it involves attempting to burn the city down.

[Old Man River]

So how much smack talk does it actually take to get locked up around here?

Sent from somewhere in the Pacific

Suthep is still out and about running around so I guess it takes at least more than 4 months worth.

People like The Toad and Ko Tee are going to get what they are pushing for. Thailand is heading towards dictatorship. It is what, I believe, Thaksin wanted, with himself as the benevolent dictator, but wasn't able to stay in power long enough to get (check out his plans for the airport authority). Jatuporn and Wutthipong are helping Suthep. Prayuth has already backed off of a coup,but they keep challenging him. Who takes credit for advising these people?

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[Dogmatix]

If the government doesn't deal with this loony, the army will. He can join Sae Daeng. Red apologists here will say he's only one man and what he says and does isn't the UDD stance. And yet, the UDD continues keeping quiet about this guy rather then condemning him or distancing themselves from him. If the red shirts are itching for a fight, I'll put my money on the army winning it.

He'd better be on the alert for any infrared spots appearing on his forehead.

[sweatalot]

So how much smack talk does it actually take to get locked up around here?

Sent from somewhere in the Pacific

Suthep is still out and about running around so I guess it takes at least more than 4 months worth.

when did Suthep talk about or plan a "riot army" or talk in favour of violence?

only morons compare the talks of Suthep with the dangerous moron Ko Tee

[Dogmatix]

So how much smack talk does it actually take to get locked up around here?

Sent from somewhere in the Pacific

Suthep is still out and about running around so I guess it takes at least more than 4 months worth.

People like The Toad and Ko Tee are going to get what they are pushing for. Thailand is heading towards dictatorship. It is what, I believe, Thaksin wanted, with himself as the benevolent dictator, but wasn't able to stay in power long enough to get (check out his plans for the airport authority). Jatuporn and Wutthipong are helping Suthep. Prayuth has already backed off of a coup,but they keep challenging him. Who takes credit for advising these people?

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The militant ones are all likely under the direct funding and control of the Shin family. YL doesn't have much clue what's going on but one can't be so sure about her elder sister. Even if they pop up independently, they have to come under their control if they are active. If they don't take orders, they are likely to end up a bloody mess. The main RS leadership is tightly controlled, i.e. the latest leadership reshuffle. Thida gave no hint of resigning and probably had no idea it was coming at that moment.

[Crushdepth]

So how much smack talk does it actually take to get locked up around here?

Sent from somewhere in the Pacific

Suthep is still out and about running around so I guess it takes at least more than 4 months worth.

but suthep isnt telling people to arm themselcves and rob banks etc as well as start killing people if he doesnt get his way, he is doing it legally not forming a terrorist organization for the current govt.

Some people can't seem to understand the difference.

[Old Man River]

So how much smack talk does it actually take to get locked up around here?

Sent from somewhere in the Pacific

Suthep is still out and about running around so I guess it takes at least more than 4 months worth.

People like The Toad and Ko Tee are going to get what they are pushing for. Thailand is heading towards dictatorship. It is what, I believe, Thaksin wanted, with himself as the benevolent dictator, but wasn't able to stay in power long enough to get (check out his plans for the airport authority). Jatuporn and Wutthipong are helping Suthep. Prayuth has already backed off of a coup,but they keep challenging him. Who takes credit for advising these people?

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The militant ones are all likely under the direct funding and control of the Shin family. YL doesn't have much clue what's going on but one can't be so sure about her elder sister. Even if they pop up independently, they have to come under their control if they are active. If they don't take orders, they are likely to end up a bloody mess. The main RS leadership is tightly controlled, i.e. the latest leadership reshuffle. Thida gave no hint of resigning and probably had no idea it was coming at that moment.

Toad and Ko Tee remind me of Seh Dang. Who advised him? When it happened, nothing was said, by anyone.

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[JAG]

this just confirms everything that we have been saying about the reds, if they do not get their own way they will start killing everyone. This is not about what is legal and democratic it is the reds declaring that they have to be given whatever they want, the fact that the ptp/yl have committed/ been involved in corruption doesnt even come into it, if yl is charged and removed they are going to start shooting. Where in the hell are the police/tarit in all this, this man has openly declared himself and his red shirt followers as terrorists and he is still walking around, why isnt he in jail. Anyone now supporting these crettins is declaring their support for terrorism, this is totally pathetic but I bet the red squad will try to paper over it..

The real problem is that the PTP/YL fools actually support these people and their threats. If they didn't they would have come out already, but have they come out to denounce any of these threats yet?...... NO.

That means they support them.

If the student network came out with things that the UDD and Ko Tee do.... they would have all been condemned the same day by just about every member of the government and screams would rise to have the lot of them rounded up at any cost.

That is the glaring difference.

Ko Tee is clearly trying ro extract cash from Thaksin with these threats, and I would not be surprised if he did a runner with it once he got his hands on it.

Well gentlemen , I support the system of electoral democracy which resulted in Yinglucks Government. On balance I think that the governments from the Thaksin faction have been better for the people of Thailand than the other party would have been, and I want the next government to be elected rather than appointed.

I also abhor and condemn all, I say again all, political violence, irrespective of which side of the spectrum it comes from. I have seen its effects first hand in Northern Ireland and Former Yugoslavia. I will never support it.

I hope, and am sure that the vast majority of Thais who have consistently voted for Pheu Thai and its predecessors also reject such violence. That does not mean that they should all prove this by crossing the Rubicon and joining the opposing side, even if you are convinced that its cause is the only way forward.

It is possible to support PT, Yingluck, even UDD and not support violence.

In summary, I bend towards the reds, not uncritically, I do not support violence.

Now please can we have a break from posts demanding that we all mirror your views, or forever stand convicted as child killers!

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[tezzainoz]

So how much smack talk does it actually take to get locked up around here?

Sent from somewhere in the Pacific

Suthep is still out and about running around so I guess it takes at least more than 4 months worth.

To my understanding

Suthep is not threatening to kill people and attack the Army

Big difference

[Tatsujin]

this just confirms everything that we have been saying about the reds, if they do not get their own way they will start killing everyone. This is not about what is legal and democratic it is the reds declaring that they have to be given whatever they want, the fact that the ptp/yl have committed/ been involved in corruption doesnt even come into it, if yl is charged and removed they are going to start shooting. Where in the hell are the police/tarit in all this, this man has openly declared himself and his red shirt followers as terrorists and he is still walking around, why isnt he in jail. Anyone now supporting these crettins is declaring their support for terrorism, this is totally pathetic but I bet the red squad will try to paper over it..

" . . . if they do not get their own way they will start killing everyone . . ."

I beg to differ . . . they started the killings some while ago . . .

[northernjohn]

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Hes the new Sae Deang and will be (rightly or wrongly) subjected to the same fate should he ever make good on his threats...

Just wondering if he will be given the time to attempt it. He is not exactly associationg with people who have both oars in the water. Some of them might have a different oar in the water.

Plenty of idiots in the red shirt movement who feel frustrated their poster girl is looking at a possible suspension for negligence. They're incapable of admitting she might well be guilty.Ask the farmers still waiting for their money.
Don't forget the policeman from Chonburi on stage who celebrated nthe death of the children in Trat to cheers from some red shirts, and then left in anger when Thida tried to tone it down.
Prayuth is right to come down hard on thugs like these ,
The red shirts are just going to have to get used to Somchai Wongsawat being the next PM.He's very boring but it serves them right for worshipping a dynasty. Try to elect your own leaders boys, decent
Folks who aren't corrupt or negligent, give up the Shinawat clan.

I wonder if this war like attitude has any thing to do with Thida abdicating her crown to the court jester.

[tezzainoz]

this just confirms everything that we have been saying about the reds, if they do not get their own way they will start killing everyone. This is not about what is legal and democratic it is the reds declaring that they have to be given whatever they want, the fact that the ptp/yl have committed/ been involved in corruption doesnt even come into it, if yl is charged and removed they are going to start shooting. Where in the hell are the police/tarit in all this, this man has openly declared himself and his red shirt followers as terrorists and he is still walking around, why isnt he in jail. Anyone now supporting these crettins is declaring their support for terrorism, this is totally pathetic but I bet the red squad will try to paper over it..

The real problem is that the PTP/YL fools actually support these people and their threats. If they didn't they would have come out already, but have they come out to denounce any of these threats yet?...... NO.

That means they support them.

If the student network came out with things that the UDD and Ko Tee do.... they would have all been condemned the same day by just about every member of the government and screams would rise to have the lot of them rounded up at any cost.

That is the glaring difference.

Ko Tee is clearly trying ro extract cash from Thaksin with these threats, and I would not be surprised if he did a runner with it once he got his hands on it.

Well gentlemen , I support the system of electoral democracy which resulted in Yinglucks Government. On balance I think that the governments from the Thaksin faction have been better for the people of Thailand than the other party would have been, and I want the next government to be elected rather than appointed.

I also abhor and condemn all, I say again all, political violence, irrespective of which side of the spectrum it comes from. I have seen its effects first hand in Northern Ireland and Former Yugoslavia. I will never support it.

I hope, and am sure that the vast majority of Thais who have consistently voted for Pheu Thai and its predecessors also reject such violence. That does not mean that they should all prove this by crossing the Rubicon and joining the opposing side, even if you are convinced that its cause is the only way forward.

It is possible to support PT, Yingluck, even UDD and not support violence.

In summary, I bend towards the reds, not uncritically, I do not support violence.

Now please can we have a break from posts demanding that we all mirror your views, or forever stand convicted as child killers!

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we are happy to read your opinion

as you are not Thai it means nothing

and as I do not walk around Bkk with my eyes shut

to me it also means nothing

but here in TVF you can have you 5 mins of fame

[WitawatWatawit]

It wouldn't surprise me if a little red dot hasn't already been "painted" on the turgid twit's forehead, considering how well the army has been able to contain violence since that tragic weekend when the four kiddies were killed. It also wouldn't surprise if in the days before the YL decision a small but debilitating accident befalls turgid twit. Certainly , on the day YL's fate is known, he should be taken out at the first sign of trouble -the army can't rely on the police to do anything.

BTW, on the Bangkok Post webpage, why is YL pictured in a wheelchair?

[whybother]

<snip>

BTW, on the Bangkok Post webpage, why is YL pictured in a wheelchair?

It was a failed attempt on her life by the desperate yellow shirt Bangkok amart.

Either that, or she tripped getting out of her van and twisted her ankle.

[kimamey]

You can never condone violence, and i presume this guy is a bit of Walter Mitty, but i don't know why anyone is surprised about this.

You continue to overthrow elected Governments of one particular voter base through non voting means, then deep hatred and crazy people will tend to surface.

I'm sure most red shirts don't share his violent views and he just gives them a bad name.

The courts may well be biased but he's seems to be saying if she's removed because they say she's done something wrong then they will become violent regardless of whether she's guilty or not.

[Fat Haggis]

One unique ability of the UDD is to mould terrorists with fanatical views. They are experts at it all the way down from the leaders down to the grass roots that cheer innocent lives lost. They thrive on misdeeds and love to flirt with the wrong side of the law. This is of no surprise though. Most terrorist organizations are born out of a hatred or through a shared contempt of something. In this case it is there hatred of the army and the courts not allowing abuse of power and corruption to flourish. The UDD, born out of this cancerous love for what's wrong with democracies are not of an ilk that will solicit sensible democratic discussions. One would be to worried about checking them for a lighter and a concealed weapon as opposed to being offered constructive dialogue.

This cancer even extends onto the party they defend whose inability to follow the constitution is second to none. Whose ability to disregard the majority voice and still purport to be democratic. Criminals defending criminals here. Now Ko Tee is saying that if the constitutional court find yingluck guilty and even if the evidence is irrofutable the bullets will be heard in Bangkok? So he will break the law and attempt to start a civil war because yingluck was negligent. Doesn't matter if she was or wasn't, it is because the UDD don't respect a principle of democracy called "rule of law". So really Ko Tee will go against the democratic principles to fight for democracy. That's PTP logic right there.

And where is yinglcuk during all this? No guiding speeches to steer the ship through the storm. No inspiration speeches to calm the waters. No denouncing this armed militia uprising threatening the national interest. No. She has no problem alluding to the courts being biased on national TV to stir further hatred and to promote violence yet she cannot denounce terrorist attacks on national TV, but hides behind Facebook.

Ko Tee, your a poster boy of the UDD and epitomize what they stand for. Time to accept the will of the people however even if you don't like it accept it.

Most terrorist organisations are borne out of either religious/severe Political beliefs or from a wrong doing by an authoritative figure that has made them feel oppressed, typically stemming from such acts as an invading force removing their day to day lifestyle.

You also have to understand as well that throughout history, one mans terrorist is also another mans Freedom Fighter..and labeling someone a terrorists isn't quite as clear cut as you like.. case in point Nelson Mandella..a convicted terrorist whose organisation was responsible for thousands of deaths, and as head of the ANC, he was incarcerated, some will argue that he was fighting an oppressive Government in Apertheid but try justifying that to the people who lost loved ones to the ANC. He then went on to become a revered World Statesman, and was adored the world over, but to the many people who have fought in conflicts involving terrorists, and their organisations, and have had loved ones, family and friends lose their lives through such activities when you're called a terrorist, and you run a terrorist organisation, then you will always be classed as that..You cannot pick and chose who's a terrorist and who isn't just because of their cause.

Many Americans supported the IRA as they believed it was a "cause" , sorry chummy but when innocent women and children, and unarmed soldiers were being killed by bombs and guns, that's Terrorism, pure and simple, don't window dress it up as anything else.

So be careful Jamie as to how you label these extremists, me I agree with a lot of what you're saying, any organisation that targets the civilian population with acts of violence and intimidation are in my book very aptly called "terrorists" and you fight them with dirty tricks, forget trying to be conventional with them, it doesn't work, you need to be as nasty and as relentless as they are..

This guy needs to be reeled in sooner, rather than later, and you also need to remember, a lot of these cops have been intimidated into turning a blind eye as well.

[Siripon]

It wouldn't surprise me if a little red dot hasn't already been "painted" on the turgid twit's forehead, considering how well the army has been able to contain violence since that tragic weekend when the four kiddies were killed. It also wouldn't surprise if in the days before the YL decision a small but debilitating accident befalls turgid twit. Certainly , on the day YL's fate is known, he should be taken out at the first sign of trouble -the army can't rely on the police to do anything.

BTW, on the Bangkok Post webpage, why is YL pictured in a wheelchair?

Probably because she hasn't got a leg to stand on regarding her upcoming NAAC case for negligence in the rice mortgage scheme.

[nong38]

Lovely chap, glad he is not my neighbour! Why do Thai political parties entertain should people, a swift ejection would do the politcal scene a boost.

[WitawatWatawit]

<snip>

BTW, on the Bangkok Post webpage, why is YL pictured in a wheelchair?

It was a failed attempt on her life by the desperate yellow shirt Bangkok amart.

Either that, or she tripped getting out of her van and twisted her ankle.

A lot of things concerning YL seem to fail .

Just did a google and saw the vid of her slipping. She got up straight away and didn't seem to be in pain, unlike my experience with torn ankle ligaments. Maybe she'll need to go overseas for specialised treatment? Immediately?

[Artisi]

<snip>

BTW, on the Bangkok Post webpage, why is YL pictured in a wheelchair?

It was a failed attempt on her life by the desperate yellow shirt Bangkok amart.

Either that, or she tripped getting out of her van and twisted her ankle.

Most definitely an attempt on her life by the anti-government fascist supporters of Suthep, a carefully planned trip out of the van - guess she was lucky and should have bought a lottery ticket ending in 404 just to round off the day's outing.

[JAG]

this just confirms everything that we have been saying about the reds, if they do not get their own way they will start killing everyone. This is not about what is legal and democratic it is the reds declaring that they have to be given whatever they want, the fact that the ptp/yl have committed/ been involved in corruption doesnt even come into it, if yl is charged and removed they are going to start shooting. Where in the hell are the police/tarit in all this, this man has openly declared himself and his red shirt followers as terrorists and he is still walking around, why isnt he in jail. Anyone now supporting these crettins is declaring their support for terrorism, this is totally pathetic but I bet the red squad will try to paper over it..

The real problem is that the PTP/YL fools actually support these people and their threats. If they didn't they would have come out already, but have they come out to denounce any of these threats yet?...... NO.

That means they support them.

If the student network came out with things that the UDD and Ko Tee do.... they would have all been condemned the same day by just about every member of the government and screams would rise to have the lot of them rounded up at any cost.

That is the glaring difference.

Ko Tee is clearly trying ro extract cash from Thaksin with these threats, and I would not be surprised if he did a runner with it once he got his hands on it.

Well gentlemen , I support the system of electoral democracy which resulted in Yinglucks Government. On balance I think that the governments from the Thaksin faction have been better for the people of Thailand than the other party would have been, and I want the next government to be elected rather than appointed.

I also abhor and condemn all, I say again all, political violence, irrespective of which side of the spectrum it comes from. I have seen its effects first hand in Northern Ireland and Former Yugoslavia. I will never support it.

I hope, and am sure that the vast majority of Thais who have consistently voted for Pheu Thai and its predecessors also reject such violence. That does not mean that they should all prove this by crossing the Rubicon and joining the opposing side, even if you are convinced that its cause is the only way forward.

It is possible to support PT, Yingluck, even UDD and not support violence.

In summary, I bend towards the reds, not uncritically, I do not support violence.

Now please can we have a break from posts demanding that we all mirror your views, or forever stand convicted as child killers!

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we are happy to read your opinion

as you are not Thai it means nothing

and as I do not walk around Bkk with my eyes shut

to me it also means nothing

but here in TVF you can have you 5 mins of fame

Seajae and Pepperme asked why reds do not condemn violence.

I made a considered reply pointing out that I and many others do.

You come back with this sarcastic load of b*ll*cks.

I give up, there really is no point

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[Thai at Heart]

And once again, NO CONSEQUENCE for one's actions. Everyone wonders why people get the audacity to do this, or that. From Sondhi, all the way to this guy now, and the reason is, that they know they ahve a 95% chance of NEVER facing any punishment. They are charismatic loonies and they spit at the law. Very very dangerous people.

[Fat Haggis]

Tezzainoz,

It must be mighty dark around Bangkok when you walk around as there's times where you appear to have your head up your rectum..

The irony is that you are more than happy to comment on Farang opinions on more than the off occasions, and not once have I seen you say "Thanks, but as a non Thai, it's none of your business" I have, plenty of times, and it pisses quite a few people off, and it's 15 minutes of fame, you need to take the head out yer hoop to check your watch from time to time

I have been very critical of many of the TVF members here, TVGerry, djjamie, Sichon Steve, Pepper Me, Seajae, just because I don't agree with their opinions doesn't mean I'n never buy them a beer either, why, because I also like a lot of what they're saying and posting too, and I applaud them for very good debates, I'm pretty sure that all TVF member would never condone violence, especially where it's deliberately aimed at the innocents, the women and Children, I've seen t all too many times myself, from Northern Ireland and Iraq, terrorism is the lowest and most cowardly form of intimidation, and I have no time for it whether it be Global or local

Don't judge a book by its cover when it comes to those people who are on the opposite side of the divide from your good self

[lawrence1366]

What to say?

Time to start thinking about relocating?

Or is he full of words only?

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That's exactly what I was thinking of too. Time to relocate to another safe haven of we can find one on the crazy planet called Earth.

[givenall]

And to think some people thought Jataporn had a screw loose.

if they really had the group why did they use Cambodian to do the dirty work

[PepperMe]

<snip>

BTW, on the Bangkok Post webpage, why is YL pictured in a wheelchair?

It was a failed attempt on her life by the desperate yellow shirt Bangkok amart.

Either that, or she tripped getting out of her van and twisted her ankle.

Most definitely an attempt on her life by the anti-government fascist supporters of Suthep, a carefully planned trip out of the van - guess she was lucky and should have bought a lottery ticket ending in 404 just to round off the day's outing.

I know I will get roasted on here by the pinkoes.

But when my wife said to me, 'watch video'... I watched her get out of the van and fall straight over. The first thing was that my heart jumped and in my head was that she had been sniped, but then she got back up again.

This is the sicko in me......... My heart sank.

Why did it sink?

Because she is (after her brother) an integral part of Thaksin's control over this country along with his other shin clan members.

These are very bad people for this country as has been proven countless times in just over two years. They have done nothing for the people and everything for themselves.

These people are expendable and totally valueless to me.