Hey, old fart! You stink!

I can smell your feet a mile away! (Smile away, smile away…)

I compute on my couch naked with a towel underneath to catch my sweat. My towel really stinks after three days. If towel stinks, I must stink.

The trouble is that this old age chemical is wax-based rather than composed of body oils. That makes it really hard to wash off.

Did some research into this and came up with persimmon. Japanese pick green persimmons and ferment them for three years. These tannins are used mostly for dyes. But I want to try making them into a body scrub with Castile soap.

Don’t bother looking. I’ve only found one company that sells the liquid tannin and will be stocking powdered by end of summer. Canadian company, Maiwa.

Nonenal (2-Nonenal) is a chemical compound produced when fatty acids on the skin oxidize. Widely known as the scientific cause of "aging odor" or "old person smell," it typically begins to develop around age 40 and has a distinct greasy, grassy, or musty scent.

Why It Happens

• Biochemical Change: As people age, the skin's lipid composition changes, resulting in more Omega-7 unsaturated fatty acids. Simultaneously, the body's natural antioxidant defenses decrease, causing these fatty acids to oxidize and break down into Nonenal. [1, 2, 3, 4]

• Not a Hygiene Issue: Nonenal is water-insoluble and grease-based. Because it is a lipid compound, traditional soaps and scrubbing do not wash it away. [1, 2, 3, 4]

How to Manage and Eliminate It

Because ordinary soaps are ineffective against Nonenal, a targeted approach is required to neutralize the molecule and prevent its accumulation: [1]

• Use Persimmon Extract: Soaps or body washes formulated with Persimmon Tannin are highly effective. The molecular structure of the tannin binds to and breaks down the Nonenal molecule, neutralizing the odor rather than just masking it. [1, 2]

• Focus on Problem Areas: The odor is most heavily concentrated where sebaceous glands are dense: the back of the neck, behind the ears, the chest, and the upper back. [1]

• Target Clothing and Bedding: Nonenal easily transfers to and sticks to fabrics. Washing contaminated items with oxygen bleach or enzyme-based detergents and drying them in direct sunlight helps break down the odor. [1, 2, 3]

• Adjust Diet: Reducing the intake of saturated fats, fried foods, and processed meats lowers the production of fatty acids on the skin. Consuming antioxidant-rich foods, such as berries, leafy greens, and green tea, helps reduce oxidative stress

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[OIL-FREE] Oil-free persimmon body wash recipe

An oil-free persimmon body wash rinses completely clean without leaving a residue, making it ideal for oily or acne-prone skin while retaining full deodorizing power. Because it lacks heavy oils, this formula relies on vegetable glycerin to keep the skin hydrated without clogging pores. [1]

Ingredients

• 1 cup Liquid Castile Soap (unscented)

• 2 tbsp Aloe Vera Gel (pure, inner-leaf gel for soothing hydration)

• 1 tbsp Vegetable Glycerin (acts as a humectant to draw moisture to the skin)

• 1 to 2 tsp Liquid Persimmon Extract (Kakishibu)

• 10 drops Essential Oils (Peppermint or eucalyptus provides a crisp, oil-free cooling sensation) [1, 2, 3]

Instructions

1. Blend Hydrators: In a clean mixing bowl, whisk the aloe vera gel and vegetable glycerin together until completely smooth and unified.

2. Incorporate Extract: Stir the liquid persimmon extract directly into the aloe and glycerin mixture.

3. Combine with Soap: Slowly pour in the liquid castile soap. Stir gently with a spoon to mix the ingredients thoroughly without creating unwanted foam.

4. Bottle: Transfer the mixture into a clean pump bottle or soap dispenser. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Usage & Storage

Shake the bottle gently before each use, as natural ingredients can settle over time. Since this recipe utilizes shelf-stable extracts and aloe gel, it can be stored right in your shower and will remain fresh for up to 6 months.

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[OIL] Persimmon extract body wash recipe

Using shelf-stable liquid persimmon extract (Kakishibu) allows you to create a long-lasting, highly effective deodorizing body wash that breaks down tough body odors like nonenal. Unlike fresh fruit puree, a recipe using botanical extract does not require refrigeration and will last for months. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Ingredients

• 1 cup Liquid Castile Soap (like Dr. Bronner's Unscented available on Amazon)

• 1 to 2 tsp Liquid Persimmon Extract (Kakishibu) or 1/2 tsp Japanese Persimmon Extract Powder

• 1 tbsp Vegetable Glycerin (for a richer lather and hydration)

• 1 tsp Sweet Almond Oil or Jojoba Oil (to prevent skin dryness)

• 10-15 drops Essential Oils (Tea tree, eucalyptus, or Japanese yuzu complement the formula well) [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Instructions

1. Dissolve (if using powder): If you are using persimmon extract powder instead of liquid, mix the powder thoroughly into the vegetable glycerin first to ensure it dissolves completely without clumping. [1]

2. Combine Base and Oils: In a clean mixing bowl or glass measuring cup, gently stir together the liquid castile soap, vegetable glycerin, and your chosen carrier oil. [1]

3. Add the Extract: Stir in the liquid persimmon extract (or your dissolved powder mix). [1, 2]

4. Scent and Bottle: Drop in your chosen essential oils and stir slowly to prevent generating excess foam. Pour the finished liquid into a clean soap dispenser.

Why Extract Works Better

Commercial and premium options like Mirai Clinical's Purifying & Deodorizing Body Wash exclusively use Japanese persimmon extract because the condensed kakishibu tannins specifically bind to and eliminate lipid-based odors like nonenal. Regular soaps only wash over these oxidized fatty acids without breaking them down.

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100-gram batch of deodorizing persimmon body wash using a gentle surfactant base.

Ingredients (100-gram Batch)

• Distilled Water: 59.0 grams (Diluent)

• Dehyton KT (Cocamidopropyl Betaine): 30.0 grams (Gentle surfactant)

• Glycerin: 5.0 grams (Humectant for moisture)

• Persimmon Extract Powder: 3.0 grams (Deodorizing active at 3%)

• Liquid Germall Plus: 0.5 grams (Broad-spectrum preservative)

• Fragrance Oil: 0.5 grams (Optional scent)

• Xanthan Gum: 2.0 grams (Natural thickener) [1, 2, 3]

Step-by-Step Instructions

1. Hydrate the Thickener: Mix the Xanthan Gum into the Glycerin until it forms a smooth paste. Slowly pour the Distilled Water over it while stirring constantly until a smooth gel forms. [1, 2, 3]

2. Add the Surfactant: Gently stir the Cocamidopropyl Betaine into the water gel. Stir slowly to avoid creating excess foam.

3. Cool Down Check: Ensure the mixture temperature is well below 50°C to protect the heat-sensitive persimmon powder.

4. Incorporate Actives: Add the Persimmon Extract Powder, Liquid Germall Plus, and Fragrance Oil to the mixture. Stir gently until the powder completely dissolves and everything is evenly blended. [1, 2]

5. Adjust pH & Package: Check the pH level. It should ideally be between 5.5 and 6.0. Pour into a clean pump bottle.

Some old people smell really bad - you probably just need to shower with soap more often

rather than relying on elaborate washing regimes once a month

Just a bathtub and some bath salts should do the job. I would also start with exercise, a healthy diet and staying properly hydrated. That is likely to do more for body odor and overall health than looking for another miracle product.

Edited 44 minutes ago44 min by Hummin

I never noticed old people smelling more until they lose the capacity to wash themselves.

I've always been a little dirtier than most I think. I'm outdoors all the time and like to take quick showers often. I smell nice but hard to reach areas over time start to get dirty. I now go for quality showers vs countless showers. I made the change when the wife laughed at my side of the bed with the sheets removed. It wasn't funny at all IMO. I bought a new mattress and so far so good.

It's true they smell like sour pee and unwiped arse cracks.

God life is brutal at times.

52 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I compute on my couch naked with a towel underneath to catch my sweat. My towel really stinks after three days. If towel stinks, I must stink.

Shower and change your masturbate towel daily will sort that.

Just now, Ralf001 said:

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1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

Shower and change your masturbate towel daily will sort that.

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