Red shirts demolish Army security checkpoint near NACC

[AleG]

The Army had guns, why didn't they defend themselves? Usual Thai craven behaviour ...

Keep calm and check your facts. The soldiers at these checkpoints are NOT armed.....

And it wouldnt be prudent to defend a check-point with force against protesters.

Its just a check point, not a military base... no need to defend it with guns.

The Military did the right thing, retreat and let them take it, its not a strategic value point and not worth spilling blood over it

This of course leads to the question of why did the Red Shirts wanted to dismantle the checkpoint at the risk of initiating a confrontation with the Army?

[Cricketnut]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

And occupied by Issan troops loyal to Thaksin. Or has nobody bothered to look up where the majority of conscripts and personnel in the armed forces come from. 2/3rds from the north and east. Bangkokians and southerners make up a very small minority.

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[ginjag]

The Army had guns, why didn't they defend themselves? Usual Thai craven behaviour ...

Keep calm and check your facts. The soldiers at these checkpoints are NOT armed.....

And it wouldnt be prudent to defend a check-point with force against protesters.

Its just a check point, not a military base... no need to defend it with guns.

The Military did the right thing, retreat and let them take it, its not a strategic value point and not worth spilling blood over it

This of course leads to the question of why did the Red Shirts wanted to dismantle the checkpoint at the risk of initiating a confrontation with the Army?

They call it Thaksins revenge, it is well spoken about his moods and attitude if he ever looks like or loses. Nasty -man thriving on ego trips. Yingluck thriving on aero trips.

[Cricketnut]

The Army had guns, why didn't they defend themselves? Usual Thai craven behaviour ...

Keep calm and check your facts. The soldiers at these checkpoints are NOT armed.....

And it wouldnt be prudent to defend a check-point with force against protesters.

Its just a check point, not a military base... no need to defend it with guns.

The Military did the right thing, retreat and let them take it, its not a strategic value point and not worth spilling blood over it

This of course leads to the question of why did the Red Shirts wanted to dismantle the checkpoint at the risk of initiating a confrontation with the Army?

Well you can be sure of one thing. The Anzacs wouldn't of taken a backward step, rather flogged the miserable beggers. Yes retreat to show how weak and in willing the army is to a bunch of red shirts. Obviously, not that interested in the lives of the so called innocent....

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[Cricketnut]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

Do you not realise that many soldiers in Isan are likely to refuse to fight against the reds if push comes to shove?

Look at the army's choice of units to suppress the 2010 crackdown. Look at how Prayuth has not launched a coup yet despite clearly wanting to.

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Cause they come from the north and north east as I have posted numerous times.

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[Cricketnut]

The check point should be reestablished immediately. A public announcement should be made by K.P. that anyone trying to dismantle the checkpoint again will be prevented from doing so by any and all necessary actions by the army personnel stationed at the checkpoint. If these red idiots can not read between the lines then so be it.

They won't do it simple... Next.

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[ginjag]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

And occupied by Issan troops loyal to Thaksin. Or has nobody bothered to look up where the majority of conscripts and personnel in the armed forces come from. 2/3rds from the north and east. Bangkokians and southerners make up a very small minority.

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We are talking about school leavers here in general. Who had little chance to avoid going in(lottery) These kids are not loyal to Thaksin in general they couldn't give a toss.

You are telling me only one third are from the rest of Thailand. So in an election 66% red--33% other ??? ha ha.

May I call you cricket and leave out the true name. --no malice intended

[fab4]

Can't wait for K. Yingluck's comment on this one as the defense minister

The redshirts are her Achilles Heel.

No wonder she's limping.

Well abhisit can join her, having confirmed what most people knew all along - He does have a chip on his shoulder.

Somewhat off topic and trying to divert, I'd say.

As for the caretaker MoD Yingluck I'm sure she'll say that all sides should respect the law and that she asked the army to be more careful with it's equipment.

It's called humour, rubl.

[Roadman]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

And occupied by Issan troops loyal to Thaksin. Or has nobody bothered to look up where the majority of conscripts and personnel in the armed forces come from. 2/3rds from the north and east. Bangkokians and southerners make up a very small minority.

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You mean loyal to Thaksin just like Sae Duaeng. That loyalty ended well for him hey.

[metisdead]

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[MGP]

" As a result, the Army had to relocate the checkpoint from the spot"

An useless police force and an army that let their bunkers be overrun by Redshirt terrorists, and this we pay taxes for!

How many unarmed soldiers do you think would have been at the check point ? 4 or 5 at the most.

How do you expect them to stop a mob of red thugs who turn up ?

They were right to move away and let the thugs have the bunker, if they hadn't they would have undoubtedly been beaten up and possibly killed.

These types have already shown they are ready to bash anyone who they think might oppose them, even monks.

This is just another provocation in Thaksins desperate moves to get the army to stage a coup.

they have radio and should be prepared for assaults of the terrorists.

Are they not allowed to fire in self defense? Do they not have automatic weapons? I guess they are confiscated now

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Sweatalot, the soldiers at the checkpoints are unarmed, and there are no weapons kept at the "bunkers". Only medical kits.

What the Red Shirts terrorists want, under the command of their supreme leader Thaksin Shinawatra, is to provoke the army to fight back with a crackdown. They are eagerly waiting for a coup because that would be the perfect curtain of smoke for all the corruption, disrespect of law, and abuse of power of their government and allies. Then they will have the perfect excuse to create a bath of blood followed by populist elections, like in 2010. And after that, wash all the crimes with a revival of the Amnesty Bill.

[dru2]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

And occupied by Issan troops loyal to Thaksin. Or has nobody bothered to look up where the majority of conscripts and personnel in the armed forces come from. 2/3rds from the north and east. Bangkokians and southerners make up a very small minority.

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You are so ill informed it is quite astonishing.

[Old Man River]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

Do you not realise that many soldiers in Isan are likely to refuse to fight against the reds if push comes to shove?

Look at the army's choice of units to suppress the 2010 crackdown. Look at how Prayuth has not launched a coup yet despite clearly wanting to.

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They will follow orders and if Prayuth wanted a coup it would have already happened.

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I thought Prayuth got his instructions from the ammart just like the police get theirs from Mr T.

On Prayuth's side no. There are, apparently, disagreements, but the issue is a coup is easy, but what do you do after a coup? I agree on this view.

BTW, Thaksin is ammart also. On the police, you are probably correct, but my comment wasn't about the police.

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[givenall]

somehow ineffective checkpoint it was, as grenades landed at nacc several times, the last time on monday night.

one went, another 199 useless bunkers to go

The checkpoints are jocks. All are missing there are hookers and whisky

[somchaismith]

OMG! They're back at it again - destroying military property and assaulting monks. How long before they start dragging us out into the street and burning us at the stake?

[zydeco]

The Red behavior gets closer and closer to that of the Khmer Rouge every day. How long before roving packs of Reds start to assault foreigners, rob them, and dump them in the nearest ally? There is clearly NOTHING to stop them from doing so. I take it back about the Khmer Rouge, come to think of it. At least the Khmer Rouge had organization. This bunch is beginning to resemble a band of Somali warlords. They'll reduce everything around them to rubble.

[fab4]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

A bit over-dramatic today, aren't we?

NO. time will tell the PM is supposed to be in control of the PTP. if she cannot rein in these nutters then she will have more problems than she has already.

unless these reds back off, street fights on a massive scale. Who wants mega problems?? T.S. because he is losing the fight and he is encouraging it all, the leader of the nutters,,,, and the PM is doing what--nothing.

Yingluck is caretaker PM and in a political party called the PTP. The UDD on the other hand is not a political party and Yingluck has no influence over it whatsoever. The UDD has their own leader and he is called Jatuporn. Jatuporn is not a caretaker PM and does not have any influence over the PTP.

Now do you understand?

[metisdead]

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[WitawatWatawit]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

A bit over-dramatic today, aren't we?

NO. time will tell the PM is supposed to be in control of the PTP. if she cannot rein in these nutters then she will have more problems than she has already.

unless these reds back off, street fights on a massive scale. Who wants mega problems?? T.S. because he is losing the fight and he is encouraging it all, the leader of the nutters,,,, and the PM is doing what--nothing.

Yingluck is caretaker PM and in a political party called the PTP. The UDD on the other hand is not a political party and Yingluck has no influence over it whatsoever. The UDD has their own leader and he is called Jatuporn. Jatuporn is not a caretaker PM and does not have any influence over the PTP.

Now do you understand?

Yingluck is the prime minister - she runs the country. When something like this happens, she is supposed to do something about it, and she is supposed to tell the country what she is doing. Which is a big, fat nothing, as we can see. For her to do and say nothing is a dereliction of duty.

Now do YOU understand?

[antimedia]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

Do you not realise that many soldiers in Isan are likely to refuse to fight against the reds if push comes to shove?

Look at the army's choice of units to suppress the 2010 crackdown. Look at how Prayuth has not launched a coup yet despite clearly wanting to.

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I see from your comments you have nevrer served in the armed forces.

[antimedia]

The Red behavior gets closer and closer to that of the Khmer Rouge every day. How long before roving packs of Reds start to assault foreigners, rob them, and dump them in the nearest ally? There is clearly NOTHING to stop them from doing so. I take it back about the Khmer Rouge, come to think of it. At least the Khmer Rouge had organization. This bunch is beginning to resemble a band of Somali warlords. They'll reduce everything around them to rubble.

Anyone who thinks the UDD / Reds are supporting the government are very naive. Their agenda is the New World Order agenda. Paid thugs, nothing more nothing less.

[JAG]

The Red behavior gets closer and closer to that of the Khmer Rouge every day. How long before roving packs of Reds start to assault foreigners, rob them, and dump them in the nearest ally? There is clearly NOTHING to stop them from doing so. I take it back about the Khmer Rouge, come to think of it. At least the Khmer Rouge had organization. This bunch is beginning to resemble a band of Somali warlords. They'll reduce everything around them to rubble.

Let's get some perspective shall we. The Khmer Rouge defeated Lon Nols US backed regime in a protracted guerrilla campaign, followed by open battle to capture Phnom Phen. They then went through the whole year zero, evacuate the cities, agrarian revelutionary society with a genocide mixed in, before fighting and losing a war against the Vietnamese.

These people appear to have stolen a tent!

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[JAG]

OMG! They're back at it again - destroying military property and assaulting monks. How long before they start dragging us out into the street and burning us at the stake?

Not for a while. Homepro tell me that stakes are in very short supply, don't expect another delivery for several months.

OMG!

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[Bpuumike]

The Army had guns, why didn't they defend themselves? Usual Thai craven behaviour ...

Keep calm and check your facts. The soldiers at these checkpoints are NOT armed.....

That's right, and the reason they are allowed to display the Red Cross signs.

If those are taken down then be warned.

[airconsult]

So. .. these protesters who don't trust the army's motivations or impartiality tell them to go - noticeably without harming them.

Yet many of the posters here condemning them were defending pdrc guards who assaulted police trying to monitor them and then complained when the police were unable to defend the protesters.

Down the rabbit hole we go.....

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[northernjohn]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

Do you not realise that many soldiers in Isan are likely to refuse to fight against the reds if push comes to shove?

Look at the army's choice of units to suppress the 2010 crackdown. Look at how Prayuth has not launched a coup yet despite clearly wanting to.

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This army is one of the biggest per population. If you think the percent of cry offs would make any difference your mistaken.

The crackdown should have been the police.

How do YOU know K.Prayuth clearly wants a coup ??? Time is Thailands friend, The courts etc.---But the reds are stupid if they think they can intimidate the Prayuths army.

Beat up one old monk on a cane and they think they are invincible. I am afraid they under estimate the support they have. Even in the red shirt's they are starting to squabble. If they are so strong in the North how come they are on a recruiting drive to raise 600,000 soldiers? Or sign up 200,000 for another red shirt based organization? If they were strong in Issen they would not need a drive to sign them up.

I had a talk with are manager last night. He will vote for any one the PTP puts up all though he doesn't think much of the red shirts and agreed with me that Yingluck was not capable of doing the job. She has some bad advisors.

Won't be long and the PTP will have to condemn the red shirts or lose the rest of there support. Like I said are manager is PTP but he is getting fed up with the red shirts. As for the Army staging a coup the only people against it are the red shirts. The PTP could then save face by not stepping down and the PDRC would be happy to see Thailand given a chance to reform it's government. There would be a lot more rose's handed up to the crew in the tanks.

The soldiers who are red shirts are getting a better view of what is happening and would be less likely to support the rabble rousing ones. After all if there is to be a coup it will not be the PTP or PDRC who start it. It will be the actions of the red shirts.

[northernjohn]

The Red behavior gets closer and closer to that of the Khmer Rouge every day. How long before roving packs of Reds start to assault foreigners, rob them, and dump them in the nearest ally? There is clearly NOTHING to stop them from doing so. I take it back about the Khmer Rouge, come to think of it. At least the Khmer Rouge had organization. This bunch is beginning to resemble a band of Somali warlords. They'll reduce everything around them to rubble.

Let's get some perspective shall we. The Khmer Rouge defeated Lon Nols US backed regime in a protracted guerrilla campaign, followed by open battle to capture Phnom Phen. They then went through the whole year zero, evacuate the cities, agrarian revelutionary society with a genocide mixed in, before fighting and losing a war against the Vietnamese.

These people appear to have stolen a tent!

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At least the Khmer Rouge had organization. This bunch is beginning to resemble a band of Somali warlords. They'll reduce everything around them to rubble.

Truer words were never spoken.

[northernjohn]

And some 'intellectual heavyweights' continually criticize Thai army for being heavy handed. Get some perspective. Try demolishing U.S or British Army security checkpoint mate and see what happens. It seems to me that Jatuporn and his followers want blood to be spilled once again.

No doubt about it. They do not have an intelligent reason to put foreword for their existence so they want to have more of their members killed to get them attention. Play up the emotions when intelligence is on holiday if indeed it was ever there.

The rate they are going if the Army doesn't stop them the PTP will have to publicly announce that they do not support them in any way. Failure to do so will just make them look like thugs also.

[Tchooptip]

Not sure Kon Prayuth Chan-ocha will appreciate

[Phatcharanan]

Well This is something I would never believe could happen. FOOLS, now if you want to lose everything that the PM PTP stand for carry on because you reds are in for a bloody nose, Brain is needed to be turned on when you wake a sleeping giant.

You will be hunted down to the far corners of Issan, do you not realize the biggest army barracks are all over ISSAN.

Look at how Prayuth has not launched a coup yet despite clearly wanting to.

How do you figure that one out?