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I think there are one too many zeros in that price tag, or perhaps it is the price in Vietnam in Dong? Utter madness, it's a small cheap bike with only one cylinder, a Honda Wave with a rebore.

I think you got the nail on the head this time, its just too less for 265-285k

You could have a ninja 650abs, Er6n or with a few dollars more a 4cl honda 650 or even a versys all brand new with way superior tech

Ok for a grandad in the village but I cant see a biking afficionado paying the best part of 300k for 1

Its cool and is retro but half the price or slightly more would be easily achieved if they wanted to be a bit less greedy

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I think there are one too many zeros in that price tag, or perhaps it is the price in Vietnam in Dong? Utter madness, it's a small cheap bike with only one cylinder, a Honda Wave with a rebore.

I think you got the nail on the head this time, its just too less for 265-285k

You could have a ninja 650abs, Er6n or with a few dollars more a 4cl honda 650 or even a versys all brand new with way superior tech

Ok for a grandad in the village but I cant see a biking afficionado paying the best part of 300k for 1

Its cool and is retro but half the price or slightly more would be easily achieved if they wanted to be a bit less greedy

I don't think it's greed but simply the translation of other (richer) markets prices straight to Thailand. That bike is stupidly expensive anywhere.

Unlike Honda and Kawasaki, Yamaha is not trying to build on domestic production and.or reasonable prices. You want their bikes, you pay big money. That always works for some buyer.

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Will the SRs retain a higher resale value that the above mentioned competitors I wonder?

Of course. And people will still love the SR when these plastic ricecookers are long forgotten. Makes no sense to compare the SR with the a Ninja 650, Er6n or an inline four. The intentions to buy a SR are totally different. Its like getting drunk with Lao Khao or spending the money for a bottle of good red wine wink.png

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Will the SRs retain a higher resale value that the above mentioned competitors I wonder?

Of course. And people will still love the SR when these plastic ricecookers are long forgotten. Makes no sense to compare the SR with the a Ninja 650, Er6n or an inline four. The intentions to buy a SR are totally different. Its like getting drunk with Lao Khao or spending the money for a bottle of good red wine wink.png

for someone who farts around on 50k bikes your opinion carries little value when were talking close to 300k for an underspeced underteched

bike that isnt worth nearly the money theyre trying to sell it for but every village has got one ;)

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uuuuuhhh we are on TV bike forum level again, i missed it, really clap2.gif

They are not trying to sell it, they sell it very well worldwide. And that since 35 years. Why not just go to the threads with bikes you are interested in?

It is a cool looking bike and very simple, so why is it so expensive, it should be 100k baht easy, they are obviously cashing in on the retro look?

But, it is a tiny little bike merely copying a much bigger 1960's Triumph Bonneville, so unless you are a Thai or Japanese and/or 14 years old, I don't get it.

I'd say a fashionable, reliable, easy to ride, 'reasonably' priced bike (for LOS) that doesn't leave you dripping in sweat at a red light light is sometimes preferable to a big, heavy, expensive alternative from Triumph.

265k baht is a steal compared to Triumph pricing. And it's much more practical in the city so I can understand why young Thai Hipsters would buy this before remortgaging their condo for a Triumph Bonneville. There is no real alternative for a classic style bike at that price point unless you look at the Chinese imports.

JonnyF said it very well. With one exception, its not only thai hipsters who love this bike.

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uuuuuhhh we are on TV bike forum level again, i missed it, really clap2.gif

They are not trying to sell it, they sell it very well worldwide. And that since 35 years. Why not just go to the threads with bikes you are interested in?

It is a cool looking bike and very simple, so why is it so expensive, it should be 100k baht easy, they are obviously cashing in on the retro look?

But, it is a tiny little bike merely copying a much bigger 1960's Triumph Bonneville, so unless you are a Thai or Japanese and/or 14 years old, I don't get it.

I'd say a fashionable, reliable, easy to ride, 'reasonably' priced bike (for LOS) that doesn't leave you dripping in sweat at a red light light is sometimes preferable to a big, heavy, expensive alternative from Triumph.

265k baht is a steal compared to Triumph pricing. And it's much more practical in the city so I can understand why young Thai Hipsters would buy this before remortgaging their condo for a Triumph Bonneville. There is no real alternative for a classic style bike at that price point unless you look at the Chinese imports.

JonnyF said it very well. With one exception, its not only thai hipsters who love this bike.

buy one then ............or i suppose youd only cough up for a chinese copy from your previous posts ....coffee1.gif

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i dont think so they can sell many of these bikes for that price in Thailand.

even the most dedicated and romantic yamaha sr400 aficionados will feel like they are being screwed up.

265 k thb is way too much for such a bike with that low level of tech. Yes it is a classic but not an antique!

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i dont think so they can sell many of these bikes for that price in Thailand.

even the most dedicated and romantic yamaha sr400 aficionados will feel like they are being screwed up.

265 k thb is way too much for such a bike with that low level of tech. Yes it is a classic but not an antique

overpriced low tech,

harley davidson springs to mind , and they sell well enough.

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i dont think so they can sell many of these bikes for that price in Thailand.

even the most dedicated and romantic yamaha sr400 aficionados will feel like they are being screwed up.

265 k thb is way too much for such a bike with that low level of tech. Yes it is a classic but not an antique

overpriced low tech,

harley davidson springs to mind , and they sell well enough.

at least harley has more iron!

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There's been a healthy market in restored and customized SR 400's for a while so I guess Yamaha is just meeting a market demand by re-releasing a classic model.

But in my view it's shame they didn't update it and create a modern 'retro' like the gorgeous BMW RNineT.

Wouldn't hurt to at least fit an electric start ..... if you stall at the lights with a passenger on board it will be a faff to start.

Also - it seems to have similar power output to the Honda or Kawasaki 250 single - shows how far engine design has come on.

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I don't thing the new SR will sell a lot of bike in Thailand. There are so many older ones around for a fraction of the price. Granted, they don't have green books, but that's only a problem if you live in Bkk or Pattaya.

Different story in the US and Europe (except Germany perhaps), where lots of people were 'starving'for SR. The old ones were very difficult to find in the US. I personally know of 5 people there who already bought one.

An electric starter on the SR? Aaaarrrgghhh HERESY!!!!

Seriously, no need for that.

The SR has to stay the way it's always been. The FI is already a big concession to modern times imo.

Yamaha could come up with another retro bike, though, maybe with a nice XS styled engine.

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I don't thing the new SR will sell a lot of bike in Thailand. There are so many older ones around for a fraction of the price. Granted, they don't have green books, but that's only a problem if you live in Bkk or Pattaya.

Different story in the US and Europe (except Germany perhaps), where lots of people were 'starving'for SR. The old ones were very difficult to find in the US. I personally know of 5 people there who already bought one.

An electric starter on the SR? Aaaarrrgghhh HERESY!!!!

Seriously, no need for that.

The SR has to stay the way it's always been. The FI is already a big concession to modern times imo.

Yamaha could come up with another retro bike, though, maybe with a nice XS styled engine.

If an Enfield Bullet can have an electric start - then why not an SR?

I'd like to see them bring back the RD350LC (with FI and an electric startbiggrin.png )

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One benefit of a new one is reliability.

The old ones are nice but how many Thai mechanics have had their paws on them?

I had a mechanic almost destroy my scooter, just changing out a tire. Stripped bolts, bolts missing, some bolts loose.

My swingarm was held on by one bolt that had backed out 50%.

Almost killed me.

I'd like a new one with Ace handle bars, a cafe seat/tank, fender eliminator, lighting, big bore, cam, valves. ECU, exhaust & air filter.

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The reliability issues lie with the mechanics, not with the bike. My 98 SR is as reliable as any new bike.

I do most of the maintenance and modifications by myself, so that may be one of the reasons.

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One benefit of a new one is reliability.

The old ones are nice but how many Thai mechanics have had their paws on them?

I had a mechanic almost destroy my scooter, just changing out a tire. Stripped bolts, bolts missing, some bolts loose.

My swingarm was held on by one bolt that had backed out 50%.

Almost killed me.

I'd like a new one with Ace handle bars, a cafe seat/tank, fender eliminator, lighting, big bore, cam, valves. ECU, exhaust & air filter.

for the price of all that you could be looking at much better bikes

265/285k +Ace handle bars, a cafe seat/tank, fender eliminator, lighting, big bore, cam, valves. ECU, exhaust & air filter.

for a bike with 23 hp and 40 year old technology is a bit insane (just slightly lol )

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One benefit of a new one is reliability.

The old ones are nice but how many Thai mechanics have had their paws on them?

I had a mechanic almost destroy my scooter, just changing out a tire. Stripped bolts, bolts missing, some bolts loose.

My swingarm was held on by one bolt that had backed out 50%.

Almost killed me.

I'd like a new one with Ace handle bars, a cafe seat/tank, fender eliminator, lighting, big bore, cam, valves. ECU, exhaust & air filter.

for the price of all that you could be looking at much better bikes

265/285k +Ace handle bars, a cafe seat/tank, fender eliminator, lighting, big bore, cam, valves. ECU, exhaust & air filter.

for a bike with 23 hp and 40 year old technology is a bit insane (just slightly lol )

I like to piss away a few dollars on needless toys once in a while.

Not like we're talking ferraris or vacations homes in Tahoe.

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I have 2 SR and a ER6n, so I think I'm qualified enough to reply.

First, I don't understand why people complain about the high price, when they don't even like the bike. I too think it's on the high side, and not only in Thailand. But there's nothing you can do about that, so take it or leave it. If you want a cheap SR, there are plenty on the Thai market from 60k to 120k (most are not registered though).

Second, bickering about different styles of bikes...is just stupid imo. I don't like inline 4s, but I don't feel the need to tell everyone how much better thumpers or twins are. It's just a personal preference.

I like variety. That's why I have different bikes for different moods and different purposes.

The SR is a great bike and I hope it'll stay with us for many years to come. It reminds us of how much fun can be had with such a simple bike. No fancy electronic stuff or materials, just an honest, down to earth bike.

Fantastic bikes.....been looking for over 5 years but impossible to get with a book...invoice just dosnt work for me....has anyone actually bought the latest version?.....I dont understand the tax as other Yamaha models are not taxed so highly...maybe something to be wary about. Example the Nissan Juke was 1.7 mil only a few years back as had massive tax imposed, same car today is half price at only 850K......is this possible in the future with the SR?...worth waiting a while maybe.

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It's not impossible PattayaPhom. If you join the various Thai SR groups on Facebook or visit the classifieds section on srthailand dot com, you'll see them pop up from time to time. Of course, those green books are very rarely the original ones. If they are, the price tag easily goes up to 150k.

'Greenish' books are acceptable though, as long as all the numbers correspond between bike and book.

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Had my oil changed yesterday on my Yamaha ..This was in the showroom . I sat there, waited and stared...What a beauty...

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The XT was a great fun bike, but how was it better? It was a btch to kickstart. It was the XT that started all the stories about broken ankles.

How is the SR boring? You mean she looks boring?

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SR is boring to ride and boring to look at, XT was/is better because it's less boring to ride and less boring to look at, imho of course. I'll admit that the SR is a great basis for customising though.

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