criminals can become monks instead of jail?

[catweazle08]

i heard, that some convicted criminals get the option to choose between jail or living as a monch for a certain time.

can anyone confirm this?

[speedtripler]

you can offer it up to the courts that you will make merit etc for a lesser punishment

whether they accept it or not is up to them and of course ,it depends on the crime....

[wym]

Going into the military can also serve - used to be back home too. . .

[HeavyDrinker]

From time to time around here you'll see one of the local ruffians with a slaphead or a buzzcut...

[Mr Wimpy]

I think a wad of tea money and a spell as a monk is more accurate. I have heard from reliable sources that this is possible but would depend on social standing or/and money I'm sure.

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[technologybytes]

If you think about it, the option of spending time as a monk should be attractive to the courts in borderline cases where they may see jail time as one possible sentence.

If you only see the courts role as handing out punishments then it won't make any sense, but if the objective is to prevent a petty offender from becoming a habitual criminal then it could work very well.

The re-conviction rate for prisoners released in Thailand is terrible, as it is in most of the world. Anything that could change the direction of an offenders lifestyle should be considered as an alternative to Jail. You may say it's a soft option, but for the offender it may be anything but a soft option.

Edited April 10, 2014 by technologybytes

[prakhonchai nick]

And then these criminals will be walking round your road every morning with their begging bowls. Do you really want to give anything to them. It's just for show - they have no interest in Buddhism or the monkhood. Just perhaps an easier option

It should not be permitted either by the courts or the Wats. A crime deserves a specific punishment -no options!

Brings the monks and wats more into disrepute.than at present!

[YipYipYa123]

If you think about it, the option of spending time as a monk should be attractive to the courts in borderline cases where they may see jail time as one possible sentence.

If you only see the courts role as handing out punishments then it won't make any sense, but if the objective is to prevent a petty offender from becoming a habitual criminal then it could work very well.

The re-conviction rate for prisoners released in Thailand is terrible, as it is in most of the world. Anything that could change the direction of an offenders lifestyle should be considered as an alternative to Jail. You may say it's a soft option, but for the offender it may be anything but a soft option.

monkhood is not strict enough imo as they ahve iphones ,ipads ,free food and freedom to come and go as they please etc

compare those conditions to a thai jail and i dont think anyone would call it "fair"

[salapau]

It wouldn't surprise me. That's why I see " monks " using and buying mobile phones, laptops, drinking in the bars and chatting up women. The " monk " who travelled by jet and had several prestigous cars and several huge bank accounts is probably employing them.

[isanbirder]

I believe quite a few criminals become monks after they leave jail, when nobody will give them a job.

[Mudcrab]

Replying to criminals can become monks instead of jail?

With a bit of effort they can become Prime Minister too.

[fabianfred]

Always some burk wanting to blame the world's woes upon the Shinawatras...

[ppmacready]

What is happening to the world, in Brazil or in some of the countries of South America one of the prison was puted in private hands of one of the mafiosi. He made a deal with the prisoners who work for him. And this is not a labor camp, convicts are there so well that they don't want to go out. And this is what they call punishment? Alarmingly..

My friends wife's brother, has been convicted of 2 separate murders and each time was sentenced to life here in Thailand.

And yet he still walks amongst us. Although his mother has been left a lot poorer and unable to pay any more tea money should he carelessly offend again!

My own girlfriends mother was convicted 20 years ago of selling marijuana and was sentenced to serve 6 months, which the eldest daughter served in her place, paying tea money. And T.I.T!

[khaowong1]

you can offer it up to the courts that you will make merit etc for a lesser punishment

whether they accept it or not is up to them and of course ,it depends on the crime....

Yes, and also depends on the abbot of the temple.. If the abbot thinks the guy is not going to straighten up, then not going to happen.. My abbot refused a guy about a dozen times, then the guy found a abbot who would ordain him, he was in prison within a year. Some abbots shouldn't be abbots..

[YipYipYa123]

I believe quite a few criminals become monks after they leave jail, when nobody will give them a job.

the rest end up driving mafia owned tuk tuks and taxis

dont use the guys covered in tattoos ,particularly on the knuckles, hands ,face or neck etc

they usually get them in prison

a dot under the left eye like a tear drop etc signifies you have killed someone in jail tattoo speak .......

[Thongkorn]

A lot of Monks ARE harden criminals. doing contrition for the bad ways

[Gumballl]

Long ago, in Europe, criminals used to seek refuge in the church to evade getting sent to prison, or worse, being hanged. I really see no difference between this and what the OP is inquiring about.

[socksy01]

Friar Tuck was maybe one of the first - he used to steal from the rich and give to the poor along with RH and his merry men.

[dighambara]

If you think about it, the option of spending time as a monk should be attractive to the courts in borderline cases where they may see jail time as one possible sentence.

If you only see the courts role as handing out punishments then it won't make any sense, but if the objective is to prevent a petty offender from becoming a habitual criminal then it could work very well.

The re-conviction rate for prisoners released in Thailand is terrible, as it is in most of the world. Anything that could change the direction of an offenders lifestyle should be considered as an alternative to Jail. You may say it's a soft option, but for the offender it may be anything but a soft option.

monkhood is not strict enough imo as they ahve iphones ,ipads ,free food and freedom to come and go as they please etc

compare those conditions to a thai jail and i dont think anyone would call it "fair"

Buddhism forbids anything from the 'outside world'. A Monk with money, Cigarettes, Betel, Telephone, Camera, etc. are not following their religious vows.

I have seen people refuse to serve a monk buying goods. A Monk in a bank had a few of the officers upset.

A most virtuous Monk does not even wear shoes.

[Neeranam]

I think a wad of tea money and a spell as a monk is more accurate. I have heard from reliable sources that this is possible but would depend on social standing or/and money I'm sure.

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Remember Chalerm's son? He became a monk lol and got away from a murder charge with 22 witnesses. He is now in the government and his father became deputy PM. This sims up what happens in this country regarding the law.

Edited April 14, 2014 by Neeranam

[Datebayo]

I think a wad of tea money and a spell as a monk is more accurate. I have heard from reliable sources that this is possible but would depend on social standing or/and money I'm sure.

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Remember Chalerm's son? He became a monk lol and got away from a murder charge with 22 witnesses. He is now in the government and his father became deputy PM. This sims up what happens in this country regarding the law.

Whhat law?.... What is that.

[BillyBobThai]

This will be Yingluck shortly after her sentancing hearing.

[GrantSmith]

Remember Chalerm's son? He became a monk lol and got away from a murder charge with 22 witnesses. He is now in the government and his father became deputy PM. This sims up what happens in this country regarding the law.

Lerm Jnr has never been an MP, the first time he ran (back in 2011) he lost out to the Dems, ironic given that constituency is his old mans 'hood. He ran again this year but as we all know, those elections were annulled

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[seedy]

A crime deserves a specific punishment -no options!

And who decides this ? The law makers ? What if the politicians are corrupt ?? The justice system ? How many convicted people have been released because they were found to be innocent ?

You ?

Give your head a shake !!