personchester Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) CAPO getting closer to GESTAPO day by day The CAPO request that the two political party sides should resolve among themselves the current political crisis is a sensible statement from the CAPO and should be respected. Your posting above is nonsensical, there is no comparison because ... The Gestapo chief >Heinrich Himmler< never made such requests, members of all political parties (other than Nazis) including political parties in occupied countries were arrested and sent to concentration camps in either Germany, or in the occupied countries. Edited April 18, 2014 by personchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patjem Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Post 2006 coup and after the changes to the Constitution by the military, certain organizations (NACC, judiciary, EC and their related "selection committees") have been groomed by the military (and their allies) and infiltrated by a large number of corrupt officials whos job is not to serve the electorate or the law, but to serve their elite masters. In effect they have been groomed to perform a judicial coup if ordered, they have been ordered, and that is exactly the process going on now against the caretaker government. Its always amusing to watch posters on here claim they know anything about democracy when they openly support judicial coups and blatantly corrupt and bias officials from these completely unbalanced "checks and balances" organizations like the NACC and EC. Judicial coup: my posterior. Still banging the same rhetorical drum? The fact of the matter is that PTP are rotten to the core.... but I suppose they should be allowed to be above the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I am waiting for the rats to leave the sinking ship, but I guess that some rats just aren't that smart In this case, where can they go? Dubai is a very long swim away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I am waiting for the rats to leave the sinking ship, but I guess that some rats just aren't that smart In this case, where can they go? Dubai is a very long swim away By all accounts drowning is not a nice way to go!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnxdefyer Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I understand that CAPO = "Center for Administration of Peace and Order" only means just that: Peace and Order. They don't stand for truth or right, which is rather silly, they throw around the word "Fair" to the high courts of the land. Tragic that an organization has to lower itself to be a slave to one political party. This ruins the whole governmental system. They should concentrate on their own duties rather than making recommendations to others. Good grief, it's like a comic strip, I only log on to read news for laughs, only I should be crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 srsv1238, as someone said: “10% of conflict is due to difference in opinion and 90% is due to the wrong tone of voice”. So let’s try to build constructive buildings. We can start by finding points in which we both agree. I will give my answer in brackets. Please share yours, and let’s see how many common points we do share (we assume that we’re talking about Amazing Thailand) 1.- All politicians must be accountable for their wrongdoings, independently of the number of votes that they have received (True) 2.- It is suspected that politicians from all parties have committed wrong doings (True) 3.- All politicians must be accountable for their wrongdoings, independently of their party (True) 4.- The current situation was ignited when PT tried to pass the Amnesty bill (True) 5.- The Amnesty Bill, amongst other bills, was considered unlawful (True) 6.- The Amnesty Bill was not even acceptable by most of the Red Shirts (True) 7.- The ruling party is facing several legal cases that must be resolved with urgency, since the future of the country is at stake (True) 8.- Members of the opposition are facing legal cases that should be resolved (True) 9 – In order to respect the will of the electorate, re-elected wrongdoers cannot be hold accountable (False) 10.- We are mere expectators of this Crazy Circus (True) If, at the very least, we only agree with point #9, let’s finish the discussion here, and enjoy the Circus. It’s Friday!!! 1. Agreed 2. Agreed 3. Agreed 4. Agreed. However the amnesty bill was designed to give amnesty to all, not just one side. 5. Considered unlawful by whom and Why? What laws did it violate? 6. Agreed. But that simply shows that compromise solutions are often disliked by all parties, which is what makes it "fair". 7. There are many cases before the courts. Shouldn't those who have been waiting for justice be served first? Expediting this case simply shows how politicized the judiciary has become, and will lead to it being seen as illegitimate by the people. 8. Agreed. The cases should be handled promptly and I suggest chronologically. 9. Re-elected wrong doers should still be held accountable if they have been found guilty if crimes, irregardless of their political position and circumstance. 10. Spectators, yes. Voices of reason, yes. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Are you supporting the Amnesty Bill? The final text of the Amnesty Bill was not only unlawful but unethical in many ways. Amongst other things, the bill was illegal because the committee altered the core contents during the second reading, before their attempt to pass it at 4:30AM. The final contents had nothing to do with the draft that was discussed with the other parties. It would have affected Thailand's ratification of the United Nations Convention against Corruption. Many more things... but it is very boring to try to explain all this again. Do some research, or just use common sense. http://thaishortnews.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/un-human-rights-body-cautions-thailand-over-amnesty-bill/ http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-201-2013 http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/human-rights-watch-rejects-proposed-blanket-amnesty-bill/ http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Amnesty-bill-would-kill-25355-graft-cases-NACC-30218832.html http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90777/8355972.html http://www.nhrc.or.th/2012/wb/en/news_detail.php?nid=1960&parent_id=1&type=hilight "6. Agreed. But that simply shows that compromise solutions are often disliked by all parties, which is what makes it "fair"." Seriously??? Another clone with Red tinted glasses that seem to get in the way of common sense. Or calling it simply like most of the Red's on here spewing bullsh!t to suit their cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsv1238 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 srsv1238, as someone said: “10% of conflict is due to difference in opinion and 90% is due to the wrong tone of voice”. So let’s try to build constructive buildings. We can start by finding points in which we both agree. I will give my answer in brackets. Please share yours, and let’s see how many common points we do share (we assume that we’re talking about Amazing Thailand) 1.- All politicians must be accountable for their wrongdoings, independently of the number of votes that they have received (True) 2.- It is suspected that politicians from all parties have committed wrong doings (True) 3.- All politicians must be accountable for their wrongdoings, independently of their party (True) 4.- The current situation was ignited when PT tried to pass the Amnesty bill (True) 5.- The Amnesty Bill, amongst other bills, was considered unlawful (True) 6.- The Amnesty Bill was not even acceptable by most of the Red Shirts (True) 7.- The ruling party is facing several legal cases that must be resolved with urgency, since the future of the country is at stake (True) 8.- Members of the opposition are facing legal cases that should be resolved (True) 9 – In order to respect the will of the electorate, re-elected wrongdoers cannot be hold accountable (False) 10.- We are mere expectators of this Crazy Circus (True) If, at the very least, we only agree with point #9, let’s finish the discussion here, and enjoy the Circus. It’s Friday!!! 1. Agreed2. Agreed 3. Agreed 4. Agreed. However the amnesty bill was designed to give amnesty to all, not just one side. 5. Considered unlawful by whom and Why? What laws did it violate? 6. Agreed. But that simply shows that compromise solutions are often disliked by all parties, which is what makes it "fair". 7. There are many cases before the courts. Shouldn't those who have been waiting for justice be served first? Expediting this case simply shows how politicized the judiciary has become, and will lead to it being seen as illegitimate by the people. 8. Agreed. The cases should be handled promptly and I suggest chronologically. 9. Re-elected wrong doers should still be held accountable if they have been found guilty if crimes, irregardless of their political position and circumstance. 10. Spectators, yes. Voices of reason, yes. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Are you supporting the Amnesty Bill? The final text of the Amnesty Bill was not only unlawful but unethical in many ways. Amongst other things, the bill was illegal because the committee altered the core contents during the second reading, before their attempt to pass it at 4:30AM. The final contents had nothing to do with the draft that was discussed with the other parties. It would have affected Thailand's ratification of the United Nations Convention against Corruption. Many more things... but it is very boring to try to explain all this again. Do some research, or just use common sense. http://thaishortnews.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/un-human-rights-body-cautions-thailand-over-amnesty-bill/ http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-201-2013 http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/human-rights-watch-rejects-proposed-blanket-amnesty-bill/ http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Amnesty-bill-would-kill-25355-graft-cases-NACC-30218832.html http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90777/8355972.html http://www.nhrc.or.th/2012/wb/en/news_detail.php?nid=1960&parent_id=1&type=hilight "6. Agreed. But that simply shows that compromise solutions are often disliked by all parties, which is what makes it "fair"." Seriously??? And the bill was withdrawn... Is it worth throwing the entire country into months and years of chaos over this? Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsv1238 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 srsv1238, as someone said: “10% of conflict is due to difference in opinion and 90% is due to the wrong tone of voice”. So let’s try to build constructive buildings. We can start by finding points in which we both agree. I will give my answer in brackets. Please share yours, and let’s see how many common points we do share (we assume that we’re talking about Amazing Thailand) 1.- All politicians must be accountable for their wrongdoings, independently of the number of votes that they have received (True) 2.- It is suspected that politicians from all parties have committed wrong doings (True) 3.- All politicians must be accountable for their wrongdoings, independently of their party (True) 4.- The current situation was ignited when PT tried to pass the Amnesty bill (True) 5.- The Amnesty Bill, amongst other bills, was considered unlawful (True) 6.- The Amnesty Bill was not even acceptable by most of the Red Shirts (True) 7.- The ruling party is facing several legal cases that must be resolved with urgency, since the future of the country is at stake (True) 8.- Members of the opposition are facing legal cases that should be resolved (True) 9 – In order to respect the will of the electorate, re-elected wrongdoers cannot be hold accountable (False) 10.- We are mere expectators of this Crazy Circus (True) If, at the very least, we only agree with point #9, let’s finish the discussion here, and enjoy the Circus. It’s Friday!!! 1. Agreed2. Agreed 3. Agreed 4. Agreed. However the amnesty bill was designed to give amnesty to all, not just one side. 5. Considered unlawful by whom and Why? What laws did it violate? 6. Agreed. But that simply shows that compromise solutions are often disliked by all parties, which is what makes it "fair". 7. There are many cases before the courts. Shouldn't those who have been waiting for justice be served first? Expediting this case simply shows how politicized the judiciary has become, and will lead to it being seen as illegitimate by the people. 8. Agreed. The cases should be handled promptly and I suggest chronologically. 9. Re-elected wrong doers should still be held accountable if they have been found guilty if crimes, irregardless of their political position and circumstance. 10. Spectators, yes. Voices of reason, yes. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Are you supporting the Amnesty Bill? The final text of the Amnesty Bill was not only unlawful but unethical in many ways. Amongst other things, the bill was illegal because the committee altered the core contents during the second reading, before their attempt to pass it at 4:30AM. The final contents had nothing to do with the draft that was discussed with the other parties. It would have affected Thailand's ratification of the United Nations Convention against Corruption. Many more things... but it is very boring to try to explain all this again. Do some research, or just use common sense. http://thaishortnews.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/un-human-rights-body-cautions-thailand-over-amnesty-bill/ http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-201-2013 http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/human-rights-watch-rejects-proposed-blanket-amnesty-bill/ http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Amnesty-bill-would-kill-25355-graft-cases-NACC-30218832.html http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90777/8355972.html http://www.nhrc.or.th/2012/wb/en/news_detail.php?nid=1960&parent_id=1&type=hilight "6. Agreed. But that simply shows that compromise solutions are often disliked by all parties, which is what makes it "fair"." Seriously??? Another clone with Red tinted glasses that seem to get in the way of common sense. Or calling it simply like most of the Red's on here spewing bullsh!t to suit their cause. Common sense would argue that we solve this current impasse by taking it to the people and letting them decide the fate of the country. If the police needs to get involved to ensure that elections are free and fair than so be it. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 srsv1238, as someone said: “10% of conflict is due to difference in opinion and 90% is due to the wrong tone of voice”. So let’s try to build constructive buildings. We can start by finding points in which we both agree. I will give my answer in brackets. Please share yours, and let’s see how many common points we do share (we assume that we’re talking about Amazing Thailand) 1.- All politicians must be accountable for their wrongdoings, independently of the number of votes that they have received (True) 2.- It is suspected that politicians from all parties have committed wrong doings (True) 3.- All politicians must be accountable for their wrongdoings, independently of their party (True) 4.- The current situation was ignited when PT tried to pass the Amnesty bill (True) 5.- The Amnesty Bill, amongst other bills, was considered unlawful (True) 6.- The Amnesty Bill was not even acceptable by most of the Red Shirts (True) 7.- The ruling party is facing several legal cases that must be resolved with urgency, since the future of the country is at stake (True) 8.- Members of the opposition are facing legal cases that should be resolved (True) 9 – In order to respect the will of the electorate, re-elected wrongdoers cannot be hold accountable (False) 10.- We are mere expectators of this Crazy Circus (True) If, at the very least, we only agree with point #9, let’s finish the discussion here, and enjoy the Circus. It’s Friday!!! 1. Agreed2. Agreed 3. Agreed 4. Agreed. However the amnesty bill was designed to give amnesty to all, not just one side. 5. Considered unlawful by whom and Why? What laws did it violate? 6. Agreed. But that simply shows that compromise solutions are often disliked by all parties, which is what makes it "fair". 7. There are many cases before the courts. Shouldn't those who have been waiting for justice be served first? Expediting this case simply shows how politicized the judiciary has become, and will lead to it being seen as illegitimate by the people. 8. Agreed. The cases should be handled promptly and I suggest chronologically. 9. Re-elected wrong doers should still be held accountable if they have been found guilty if crimes, irregardless of their political position and circumstance. 10. Spectators, yes. Voices of reason, yes. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Are you supporting the Amnesty Bill? The final text of the Amnesty Bill was not only unlawful but unethical in many ways. Amongst other things, the bill was illegal because the committee altered the core contents during the second reading, before their attempt to pass it at 4:30AM. The final contents had nothing to do with the draft that was discussed with the other parties. It would have affected Thailand's ratification of the United Nations Convention against Corruption. Many more things... but it is very boring to try to explain all this again. Do some research, or just use common sense. http://thaishortnews.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/un-human-rights-body-cautions-thailand-over-amnesty-bill/ http://www.humanrights.asia/news/ahrc-news/AHRC-STM-201-2013 http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/human-rights-watch-rejects-proposed-blanket-amnesty-bill/ http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Amnesty-bill-would-kill-25355-graft-cases-NACC-30218832.html http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90777/8355972.html http://www.nhrc.or.th/2012/wb/en/news_detail.php?nid=1960&parent_id=1&type=hilight "6. Agreed. But that simply shows that compromise solutions are often disliked by all parties, which is what makes it "fair"." Seriously??? And the bill was withdrawn... Is it worth throwing the entire country into months and years of chaos over this? Withdrawn but not killed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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