Constitutional Court deliberates PM's extension request

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Constitutional Court deliberates PM's extension request



BANGKOK: -- The nine-member panel of the Constitutional Court began Wednesday to deliberate a petition by caretaker premier for the extension of 15 more days to appear and defend malfeasance charge involving her unlawful transfer of the former security chief to inactive post.

The nine constitutional judges convened meeting at 9.30 a.m. today under tight security provided outside by the police.

Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) police combed the court compound with explosive detectors to ensure that no explosive device was planted p.

The Constitutional Court came under constant threat when it first took the case to deliberate after a group of senators petitioned the court to rule the premiership status of Ms Yingluck after the Supreme Administrative Court ruled that the transfer was unlawful and ordered that the former chief be reinstated by the caretaker premier.

Her lawyers and supporters later came out to defend Ms Yingluck, with various reasons, one of which was that the former security chief has been reinstated upon the Supreme Administrative Court’s order and therefore it should be over.

Other even claimed the Constitutional Court can’t rule beyond the power given under the Constitution by ruling not only the premier but her entire cabinet would lose cabinet status. They warned of bloodshed if the cabinet loses its status, instead of only Ms Yingluck.

The ruling Pheu Thai party has prepared either Foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, or Labor minister Chalerm Yoobamrung to replace if Yingluck is forced to step down on court’s ruling.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/constitutional-court-deliberates-pms-extension-request/


-- Thai PBS 2014-04-23

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Constitutional Court approves Yingluck's request for 15-day extension

BANGKOK: -- The Constitutional Court on Wednesday agreed caretaker premier’s request for a 15-day extension on presenting her defence on the unlawful transfer of Thawil Pliensri as national security chief to an active post.

Yingluck Shinawatra is scheduled to defend herself on the case last Friday. She send her team of lawyers to submit a request to the court that she needed more time to prepare evidences.

-- The Nation 2014-04-23

[Tatsujin]

Still biased and unfair?

[JesseFrank]

So the start of civil war is delayed for another 15 days.

[CelticBhoy]

'The ruling Pheu Thai party has prepared either Foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, or Labor minister Chalerm Yoobamrung to replace if Yingluck is forced to step down on court’s ruling.'

What an awful thought.

[bkkjames]

'The ruling Pheu Thai party has prepared either Foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, or Labor minister Chalerm Yoobamrung to replace if Yingluck is forced to step down on court’s ruling.'

What an awful thought.

talk about counter productive...

[Dr Bruce]

Seems to me that both The Constitutional Court and The NACC are hoping that the other will do the Ammart's dirty work.

[NongKhaiKid]

Maybe YL is hoping for a never ending situation such as she has with the Ombudsman over big brother's passport - " ask and thou shalt NOT receive ".

[dinom]

Now this is the biggest threat for Thailand so far. You take YS out, we bring Surapong or Chalerm in. Knowing this now, there is no other choice than to take YS and her whole cabinet out of business.

[MaxLee]

The legend will never die....

[Pimay1]

Seems to me that both The Constitutional Court and The NACC are hoping that the other will do the Ammart's dirty work.

The PTP has been doing that for the past three years.

[geriatrickid]

Some court. 4 of its presiding members are not trained as judges and have zero judicial experience outside of this tribunal.2 of them are not even trained lawyers., How are they to apply laws when they are not actual judges? Another 2 of the judges are from the administrative court system and are not considered constitutional law experts. Is it any wonder why the activity of this tribunal is questioned?

[geriatrickid]

Now this is the biggest threat for Thailand so far. You take YS out, we bring Surapong or Chalerm in. Knowing this now, there is no other choice than to take YS and her whole cabinet out of business.

The other option is to have an election and to allow the electorate to decide.

[MaxLee]

Seems to me that both The Constitutional Court and The NACC are hoping that the other will do the Ammart's dirty work.

The PTP has been doing that for the past three years.

So push the reset button... and let the reddies take over Bangkok with a vengeance.

[siampolee]

geriatrickid post # 12

Some court. 4 of its presiding members are not trained as judges and have zero judicial experience outside of this tribunal.2 of them are not even trained lawyers., How are they to apply laws when they are not actual judges? Another 2 of the judges are from the administrative court system and are not considered constitutional law experts. Is it any wonder why the activity of this tribunal is questioned?

So you are presumably fully conversant with all the legal points concerning the court,its activities and its panel of judges ?

Please could you or can you give we lesser mortals a lesson as to how the court should function and with you as the lead counsel in the matter?

[Thai at Heart]

Some court. 4 of its presiding members are not trained as judges and have zero judicial experience outside of this tribunal.2 of them are not even trained lawyers., How are they to apply laws when they are not actual judges? Another 2 of the judges are from the administrative court system and are not considered constitutional law experts. Is it any wonder why the activity of this tribunal is questioned?

Really?

TIT at its most ridiculous.

[WoopyDoo]

So presumably she has 10 more days as the extension would have started last Friday if I am right, or is this a ripe loophole to get 20 days when you only need 15 days to prepare a defense you already prepared and submitted this afternoon?

Only in Thailand.

I can see YL will not be ruled against.... because she is as guilty as you can get.... So this being Thailand, the opposite result will in fact occur.

Same with the NACC... they will probably rule in her favour. Because it is the illogical outcome and so it will prevail.

I understand the system fully now.

This will actually lead to a civil war faster than throwing this bunch of idiots to the crocodiles.... people think it is only the UDD'reds that can start a war.... I wouldn't count on that one.... The next step would be that 'the people' have no other choice than to blow up in such fashion that it will pull the army out into a coup, and there is your civil war scenario.

[Mango Bob]

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Still biased and unfair?

Your damn straight they are biased and unfair. This doesn't change a damn thing.

[jcb2001]

Some court. 4 of its presiding members are not trained as judges and have zero judicial experience outside of this tribunal.2 of them are not even trained lawyers., How are they to apply laws when they are not actual judges? Another 2 of the judges are from the administrative court system and are not considered constitutional law experts. Is it any wonder why the activity of this tribunal is questioned?

I'm sure you would be happy if they replaced these so called inexperienced judges with the likes of Nuttawat or Jatuporn.

[Pimay1]

'The ruling Pheu Thai party has prepared either Foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, or Labor minister Chalerm Yoobamrung to replace if Yingluck is forced to step down on court’s ruling.'

What an awful thought.

Well I don't know so much about that. Just think how much fun we could have on TVF if Chalerm was PM. Thailand would have their own Boris Yeltsin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9YnDirqwT4#

[Scamper]

" The ruling Pheu Thai party has prepared either Foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, or Labor minister Chalerm Yoobamrung to replace if Yingluck is forced to step down on court’s ruling. "

That may be the scariest Pheu Thai threat ever. In any event, the Constitutional Court has granted the fifteen day extension - one assumes it takes retroactive effect since Friday, the date of her scheduled appearance. So is one to assume that Yingluck's lawyers will hold on to the documents and not submit them, preferring instead to offer them if Yingluck asks for another extension and is turned down ? This could potentially inspire a suspenseful TV drama series. Each episode would end showing Yingluck just on the cusp of entering the court, when something comes up at the very last minute. Each week, viewers would try to anticipate what could foil her attempt the next time. They could also vote in their favourite episodes, and what they think were the most imaginative excuses. After the first twenty weeks of this weekly successful - and increasingly plausible - TV series, viewers could start to offer their own suggestions as to how she can actually attend a court appearance.

[tezzainoz]

Still biased and unfair?

That makes Woopy Doo the number 1 Post of the day

he was the one that predicted

Just submitted my full defense.... Just in case I am not given time to prepare it.

Hilarious gaffe.....

What would be even funnier, is if they accept the defense papers and then give her an extension to prepare what they already have.

Not beyond the realms of possibility in Thailand where everything illogical is the order of the day.

Seem Woopy Doo is right on the ball

[bigbamboo]

'The ruling Pheu Thai party has prepared either Foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, or Labor minister Chalerm Yoobamrung to replace if Yingluck is forced to step down on court’s ruling.'

What an awful thought.

So it's Khun T's demented old relative or his demented old rotweiler.

[PatOngo]

Seems to me that both The Constitutional Court and The NACC are hoping that the other will do the Ammart's dirty work.

At least you seem happy with the status quo, Dr, I guess you got paid for YOUR rice crop.

[winstonc]

i would love to see the wino as pm us the thais and the rest of the world laughing till it hurts..even more shame on this excuse for a democratic country...investment would disappear faster than a puddle in the sahara..bring it on i say..

[rubl]

Some court. 4 of its presiding members are not trained as judges and have zero judicial experience outside of this tribunal.2 of them are not even trained lawyers., How are they to apply laws when they are not actual judges? Another 2 of the judges are from the administrative court system and are not considered constitutional law experts. Is it any wonder why the activity of this tribunal is questioned?

In 1997 the Constitutional Cort started with 15 members, 7 from the judiciary, 8 selected by a special panel. After the coup in 2006 it changed to 9 members all out of the judiciary. This remained such after the 2007 constitution was accepted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Court_of_Thailand

So, I assume you're just complaining in general rather than suggesting that the C.C. is not manned correctly?

[fab4]

Some court. 4 of its presiding members are not trained as judges and have zero judicial experience outside of this tribunal.2 of them are not even trained lawyers., How are they to apply laws when they are not actual judges? Another 2 of the judges are from the administrative court system and are not considered constitutional law experts. Is it any wonder why the activity of this tribunal is questioned?

In 1997 the Constitutional Cort started with 15 members, 7 from the judiciary, 8 selected by a special panel. After the coup in 2006 it changed to 9 members all out of the judiciary. This remained such after the 2007 constitution was accepted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Court_of_Thailand

So, I assume you're just complaining in general rather than suggesting that the C.C. is not manned correctly?

No, they're not all out of the Judiciary, rubl, that's the point. There are 5 judges, 2 "experts" in law and 2 "experts" in political science.

[ggold]

Some court. 4 of its presiding members are not trained as judges and have zero judicial experience outside of this tribunal.2 of them are not even trained lawyers., How are they to apply laws when they are not actual judges? Another 2 of the judges are from the administrative court system and are not considered constitutional law experts. Is it any wonder why the activity of this tribunal is questioned?

I'm sure you would be happy if they replaced these so called inexperienced judges with the likes of Nuttawat or Jatuporn.

Give it 15 days and you could have Surapong or Chalerm as caretaker PM, Hope it's Chalerm, now that would be entertaining! Thinking about it, the choice may be telling! Surapong for a negotiated settlement, Chalerm for all out civil war!

Who gets your vote!

[harkish]

Here is a funny case of the CC saying to the NACC 'so, you throw em out'.. and the NACC responding 'no, YOU throw em out'. Neither wants the stink of judicial coup on their shoes, the protests resulting from their actions. It is really a matter of the Central Sukhumvit backroom boys eventually deciding which of these institutions pulls the trigger - neither will be seen as legitimate by the upcountry faction, and the results are still unknown - will it be 2007 all over again, or something more destabilizing? Or will it go over with a whimper? Nobody knows.

[Dah fahrang]

'The ruling Pheu Thai party has prepared either Foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul, or Labor minister Chalerm Yoobamrung to replace if Yingluck is forced to step down on court’s ruling.'

What an awful thought.

So it's Khun T's demented old relative or his demented old rotweiler.

I own not one, but two ageing (not old) rottweilers!

Both of them possess far greater intelligence, integrity and intuition than either of the two possible PM designates!

Heaven forbid. Perhaps I could nominate my rotties for the job? Now there's an interesting political shift.

Thailand really would have "gone to the dogs"