Popular Post rametindallas Posted May 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2014 Puea Thai's next move should be to ditch Thaksin and become a proper political party before any further elections are contested. Any suggestion going forward that does not include some immediate commitment to reform is simply their way of saying 'we've got a super unfair advantage at the polls and we have no intention of rectifying it'. The more they chant 'election is the solution' the more devious they look. Puea Thai party cannot 'ditch' Thaksin. Thaksin created the party and appointed its organizational executives who are loyal to him. PTP is the exclusive property of Thaksin Shinawatra. Individual members can resign from the party but then where would they be with no money or organization behind them. Since 305 of them are facing a five year ban for the shenanigans with the blanket Amnesty Bill, there's really not much to gain from leaving the party and betraying Thaksin at the same time. If the rural people of the NE and the northerners an much of the central were to stand up to UDD, who uses threats, bribe, and intimidation to maintain monopolistic political power in those regions, and create a Northern Coalition Democratic Reform Party (or whatever) that wasn't externally controlled/manipulated but was 'grass-roots'. Then you would see some new equity/equality in Thailand. Right now, too many (on both side) are being manipulated to act against their own interest. None of this strife if helping anybody prosper. maybe the new NCDR party could be organized in time for the elections to be held just over a year from now. Reform should be constitutionally in place by then and everybody will supposedly have a more level playing field, electorally speaking. Thailand made the Shinawatra Family (and even their maids, chauffeur, gardeners, in-laws, and cronies) very wealthy; even by world standards. Time to let some new little piggies at the trough. This is just one more interesting in Thailand's history so everybody needs to adjust and adapt. Those are really good abilities to have in Thailand, anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Does PTP mulling their next move involve the use of travel brochures? More likely a conference call via skype. Rumor has it (BP article this morning) that Yingluck has left the Kingdom. And you can't even get a rumour right. The rumour , and that is all it is, is that certain members of the Shinawatra Family have moved North to "avoid possible arrest". Sign of the times - normally even the BP wouldn't add rumours like that in it's articles, normally leaving that kind of crap reporting to The Nation. Probably hedging their bets and wanting to be "the good people" as a certain person mentioned once, back in the days when Thailand had Elections. Edited May 21, 2014 by fab4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Chalerm sitting at home with a never ending supply of ear medicine would have been the best solution right from the start. Must be wonderful to be in his position sitting there thinking about what a huge success he has been in his job's working for the Dubai paymaster. His family must be incredibly proud of his achievements. His garage has parking for 26 cars. He's done alright for himself and his sons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Next move? PTP only want to keep on trying the same failed moved of elections ASAP. Negotiations would be different and have more chance of success. elections are democratic appointing a PM is not. It has been tried before and did not work then and will not work now. suthep is trying to take Thailand back to 1990 or 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Chalerm sitting at home with a never ending supply of ear medicine would have been the best solution right from the start. Must be wonderful to be in his position sitting there thinking about what a huge success he has been in his job's working for the Dubai paymaster. His family must be incredibly proud of his achievements. His garage has parking for 26 cars. He's done alright for himself and his sons. and so has suthep, so what the hell are you saying??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 At the moment the PTP have been completely out manoeuvred by the Ammart or Ruling Elite. All they can do is appeal to world opinion, which is generally supportive. The Ruling Elite have power - they always have had and they intend to ensure they never lose it again. A sad situation for Thailand. That is the same all over the world,nothing new here.The establishment is always in charge,its nebulous power ensures continuity.The letter heading may change,but the message is always the same,'do what you want as long as we agree'. The establishment can enrich you and enhance you,or with a few chosen words in the right ear can crush you and destroy you.Not even revolution can change things,in the background the patient powerful establishment acts,advises, and waits,generations if needed. It can't be beaten only outward appearances change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Next Move : Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! . Scream DEMOCRACY louder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Pheu Thai mulls next move Chalerm Yoobamrung, former director of the now-defunct Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO), will stay at home open the liquor cabinet and he will come... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Next Move: Thaksin .... What is our next move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Now or Never Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 PTP making demands as usual - they really do have a general difficulty understanding what is going around them at any given time - we have the "supposed" government of Thailand holding a meeting in a hotel room - right ? anybody else see something wrong with this ? Soon their meeting place will be a phone booth in Chiang Mai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 At the moment the PTP have been completely out manoeuvred by the Ammart or Ruling Elite. All they can do is appeal to world opinion, which is generally supportive. The Ruling Elite have power - they always have had and they intend to ensure they never lose it again. A sad situation for Thailand. Hmm..... martial law is in place, presumably with the support of number one. Peace and order have been restored and life goes on as normal. World opinion might just think let's leave it like that for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Next move for PT should be 1. contact General 2. set up meeting with AV and Suthep 3. Get military tv coverage 4. start talking about how much they want to help the people of this country and not their own pockets. military Lawyers and generals to supervise the meeting. NO phones or computer equipment allowed in the room or any of the other rooms allowed. Military Jam all outside communications. Come up with a plan that all can take back to their people to discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 At the moment the PTP have been completely out manoeuvred by the Ammart or Ruling Elite. All they can do is appeal to world opinion, which is generally supportive. The Ruling Elite have power - they always have had and they intend to ensure they never lose it again. A sad situation for Thailand. dream on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Chalerm sitting at home with a never ending supply of ear medicine would have been the best solution right from the start. Must be wonderful to be in his position sitting there thinking about what a huge success he has been in his job's working for the Dubai paymaster. His family must be incredibly proud of his achievements.His garage has parking for 26 cars. He's done alright for himself and his sons. and so has suthep, so what the hell are you saying??????? I thought Suthep only had parking for 25!!! Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileydude Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) The guy carrying the biggest stick has come out. They're probably mulling who they can "buy" as allies for counter measures. Edited May 21, 2014 by smileydude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Chalerm sitting at home with a never ending supply of ear medicine would have been the best solution right from the start. Must be wonderful to be in his position sitting there thinking about what a huge success he has been in his job's working for the Dubai paymaster. His family must be incredibly proud of his achievements.His garage has parking for 26 cars. He's done alright for himself and his sons. and so has suthep, so what the hell are you saying???????I thought Suthep only had parking for 25!!! And I think he was saying that many politicians have done very well for themselves .. ie Chalerm having a Bentley AND a Rolls-Royce amongst other exotic and very expensive cars and all that on a salary in the region of 100,000 baht a month. " A source for the Pheu Thai party has revealed that Pheu Thai MPs have just begun to receive their salaries. Constituency MPs are paid 100,000 THB a month, twice as much as the amount paid to Pheu Thai MPs when they were Opposition members. Party-list MPs meanwhile are paid 50,000 THB a month. - See more at: http://www.pattayamail.com/news/pheu-thai-mps-still-unhappy-with-their-salaries-6548#sthash.Ne9rcqrA.dpuf" Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The red-shirt protesters near Aksa Road would not move away, he said. More threats. You would think these thugs/come politicians would learn. These are idle threats - if the army wants them to move away, they will be moving away if they know what's best for them!!! Oh what a terrible couple of weeks for this spoof government, does anyone feel sorry for them?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Just push for elections without creating too much "noise" and for equal treatment of the yellow ammart supporters - pointing out, carefully and sensibly, if their are any differences they can't be crushed and any future HAS to include them and if they are smart and not provocative they will win any future election when it comes Now is a good time to push for reforms before elections, the reds are in total disarray the government is powerless. The endgame is near the game was played well and with a few more pushes the government will topple. Some reforms to make sure state officals cant abuse power and nepotism is halted. Make sure that things have to be transparent and corruption charges will hold some real weight. Then for all I care the PTP can rule again if they win, as long as they play by the rules there is no problem from me. (not that i hold much weight but many think the same that if they play nice there is no problem, not their style of arrogant corrupt governance) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 They have just on an hour to mull now before they must face reality. Wonder who they are going to send, they have to pick only 5. Could it be that not many have volunteered for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucjoker Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 elections,yes ...but only with new people ,no ex politicians ! No mayors of cities ,khamlangs ,Orbotors......only people whit no prior links to politics. So schoolteachers ,engineers,architects ,.......are allowed to the new positions ! No ex-politicians and their families (nor maids) No parties any more ! There is absolutely no reason for different parties .(look at china and how they are booming ,not every chinese off course,i did not say it is a paradise ,but surely much better (and freer than many europeen countrees). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Pheu Thai is once again all over the map. After hastily releasing a statement that they agreed with the martial law - thereby trying to imply that have always been fully in control - they now say they don't like it at all - even though they had spent considerable energy asking for it. Surapong in his Thaksinesque dreams of course wanted martial law to be imposed over an entire two month election period nationally - which is something only Pheu Thai would ever fathom as acceptable. Prayuth put martial law into effect to control the violence. Period. He didn't do it to facilitate an entire national election campaign. Martial law is a seldom imposed power. It is not meant for the long-term. CAPO, Chalerm, Surapong - they have all vacated the limelight. Things have changed. Pheu Thai is not in control. It's time they recognized that. Call Chalerm at his home. He can verify that. He's catching up on his soap operas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Just push for elections without creating too much "noise" and for equal treatment of the yellow ammart supporters - pointing out, carefully and sensibly, if their are any differences they can't be crushed and any future HAS to include them and if they are smart and not provocative they will win any future election when it comes They should be thrown out for what they have NOT done, and for what they have done. No second chances for this regime and they are that sick enough, and have the audacity to MULL the next move. Sorry you had your chance, you do not deserve elections your record proves it -the courts are proving it---get out. The lot of you. fortunately YOU are not the Thai electorate and Thais know that the Dems had 3 years in power with your superhero Suthep as DPM and did nothing they also know that the Courts NOT democracy brought down this government and they KNOW that it is democracy that will save Thailand eventually NOT a few rich, elite ammarts in BKK their time will come again... now is the time for quietly pushing for elections and embarrassing anyone who delays in the international arena - not fighting Your to brainwashed to talk to---complete denial of lousy governing. Get this PTP self destructed before protests, you know it -- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Does PTP mulling their next move involve the use of travel brochures? More likely a conference call via skype. Rumor has it (BP article this morning) that Yingluck has left the Kingdom. And you can't even get a rumour right. The rumour , and that is all it is, is that certain members of the Shinawatra Family have moved North to "avoid possible arrest". Sign of the times - normally even the BP wouldn't add rumours like that in it's articles, normally leaving that kind of crap reporting to The Nation. Probably hedging their bets and wanting to be "the good people" as a certain person mentioned once, back in the days when Thailand had Elections. "- Rumour mongering, speculation, or other inflammatory posts." ???????? The basis of his posts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelplatoon Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Mulls next move. . ? The next move is going to todays 2 o clock meeting and come up with reasonable solutions. Nice that they finally agree the red militia is completely in their control. The red shirts won t move from aksa road, he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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