Ex-PMs Thaksin Shinawatra, Yingluck Shinawatra to establish government in exile

[Publicus]

What would a Govt in exile be able to accomplish? Other than keeping the hate fires burning brightly.

I think the objective is that - in the case of international intervention - the government in exile would be allowed to return to power if the junta were overthrown. Memory may fail me but I think that's happened in other countries with "governments in exile". (No, I can't provide an example but I think it's occurred, historically speaking.)

Iran!!

La Republique is the perhaps unique place that going on 200 years has accepted political exiles as political refugees at the drop of a dime, the notions of liberté égalité fraternité taken somewhat seriously there, perhaps overly so. (I thought I'd heard Amsterdam speaking something in French the other day. )

It was from his base in France from 1964-79 that the Ayatollah Khomeini directed the Islamic resistance against the Shah of Iran and implemented the daily strategies and tactics of the successful Revolution that drove the Shah from Iran. Khomeini accomplished all this without a word of interference and free of any limitations of his activities by the French government.

With such increased globalization as presently exists, governments aren't quite as independent as they once were, although I wouldn't put it past Francoise Hollande to do much the same under present exigencies.

Thaksin and Amsterdam would be remiss not to at the least check it out. The worst that can happen Is for Hollande to say is non.

So who knows, lightning might strike the shithouse and put PTP back in business. .

[Stradavarius37]

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"Having worked as a consultant for Carlyle during the time they took over Qinetiq, and having got to know their top management quite well, I can tell you that you cannot be further from the truth.

Carlyle ally themselves with the government/military/industrial complex in all cases.
In Thailand the Army IS the military/industrial complex
The last thing they want is to be politically opposed to where they make their money so any support for the likes of Thaksin in a government in exile is out of the question.

You, sir, are just another conspiracy nut-job who believes everything he reads on blogs that feed his fantasy."

Consultant? Ha! You were the hired help! Do you honestly believe they told you about everything they've ever done, or, will ever do? Thaksin was a member of the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board, and that's a fact. Are you suggesting that he never talks with the people that he used to work with at Carlyle? You're a real class-act with the name calling by the way. This is a public forum, not a school playground. Grow up!

"Oh....those guys at Black Water were soooo nice! They could never do anything wrong!" - - Says some silly consultant. Ha!

Wow!- There so much to ignore in this pile of steaming "Who Cares" that I don't know where to start...

[MaxLee]

Yingluck released according to BP

What's going on at the nation?

Does that mean "just a slap on the wrist and next time be nice nice???"

[selftaopath]

Today they added Thaksin's son to list of those detained. Looks like the general has almost all the trump cards in his hand.

Now if any/all the Shin mafia can be convicted of crimes and jailed a good start at safeguarding Thailand against further self serving actions by this very harmful and greedy gang of thieves.

[monkey4u]

He might as well start a government in exile

He already has most of Thailand's money

Maybe he might use it for the people

O wait I forgot my meds today

[Echo Tango]

"Having worked as a consultant for Carlyle during the time they took over Qinetiq, and having got to know their top management quite well, I can tell you that you cannot be further from the truth.

Carlyle ally themselves with the government/military/industrial complex in all cases.

In Thailand the Army IS the military/industrial complex

The last thing they want is to be politically opposed to where they make their money so any support for the likes of Thaksin in a government in exile is out of the question.

You, sir, are just another conspiracy nut-job who believes everything he reads on blogs that feed his fantasy."

Consultant? Ha! You were the hired help! Do you honestly believe they told you about everything they've ever done, or, will ever do? Thaksin was a member of the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board, and that's a fact. Are you suggesting that he never talks with the people that he used to work with at Carlyle? You're a real class-act with the name calling by the way. This is a public forum, not a school playground. Grow up!

"Oh....those guys at Black Water were soooo nice! They could never do anything wrong!" - - Says some silly consultant. Ha!

The fault here is not Carlyle group.

It is the business groups of Thailand setting up their future. You think foreign companies would or could exploit the Thai population more than they are already?

There is one company in Thailand that supplies from rice to mobile phones with virtually no major competition. And u tell me this is good for Thailand.?

I agree with you. Thaksin started privatizing State Industries while he set up competition-free company's for himself and his families. Thailand is a tough-nut-to-crack because of its corporate and land ownership laws. That's why they need Thaksin, or someone like him, back in charge to change these laws and finish the job. They're gonna carve this country up like a Thanksgiving Turkey! Tik-Tok Thailand!

I'm not a red-shirt or a yellow-shirt. I'm anti Thaksin/Globalist.

[Trembly]

So much for his ' I've quit politics' mantra. Note to self: never believe the man.

It would be irresponsible of him to allow this current dictatorship to continue their human rights violations unchallenged. He is far from perfect to be sure, but when given the choice between a quasi-corrupt politician and a violent military dictatorship, I'd pick the imperfect politician every time.

Violent military dictatorship? It's been less than a week. Where are the dead or injured?

If you think this is violent I wonder what you might have thought of the 3000 summary executions or the Krue Seh massacre...

Edited May 26, 2014 by Trembly

[animatic]

This story has it all....... re:

-Thaksin's intent to fight to the death, the Red's and his private army deaths, not him of course.

-Thaksin's growing madness.

-Slime Robert Amsterdam who earns money from Thaksin and other petty dictators and tyrants world wide, is the same man who Post quoted as saying the monarchy has to go, and in front of the Red Shirts camp a few days ago. Note that no reports of Reds condemning Amsterdam's comments, signaling Reds real intentions.

-America and its tv networks want their puppet Thaksin. Take names of the networks.

-American govt and biz interests want puppet Thaksin.

-Foreign news formerly dismissed as too few the thousands of protesters with whistles, but now credits a hundred as representative of anti coup feelings.

Robert slime "lawyer" to Thaksin says:

Lets see, where to set up a govt in exile? Gosh, maybe Somalia, uh maybe Nigeria with Mr. Goodluck, let me "think," where can Thaksin buy a spot.... oh oh, this is not as easy as it looks.......North Korea, nah too cold for him..... uh uh, let me get back to you on this."

Way way too much tolerated of Thaksin's madness. My reality tv show script is in development as per this msg.

Please do not say America and Americans want the puppet Thaksin. It's the corporate globalists stationed there.

Wishes in America for a coup there to save them from these kind of enforcing globalists are getting louder by the minute.

Yes, a big difference between being a wanna be Carlyle Group lackey of the Bush clan and actually being liked by the USA dept. of state. He is, in the bigger scheme of things, a useful idiot, a knight or rook on the big players game boards...

Thaksin of course imagines he's much more.

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[YipYipYa123]

this was mentioned already in "Der Spiegel" yesterday.

Problem will be of how will they travel abroad when they're not allowed to leave the country?

one of thaksins private jets i would imagine

either that or a helicopter into cambodia or laos and then same jet to dubai

when u got billions of dollars ,u got options

[gemini81]

That's why there's a curfew. Hunt down those Cambodian troops for hire, please, and please hunt down the family who is ordering and paying them, along with all the weapons floating around. All the locals know the thats why the curfew. At least things are getting done shutting down this sick dictatorial circus.

[Seastallion]

What would a Govt in exile be able to accomplish? Other than keeping the hate fires burning brightly.

I think the objective is that - in the case of international intervention - the government in exile would be allowed to return to power if the junta were overthrown. Memory may fail me but I think that's happened in other countries with "governments in exile". (No, I can't provide an example but I think it's occurred, historically speaking.)

Iran!!

La Republique is the perhaps unique place that going on 200 years has accepted political exiles as political refugees at the drop of a dime, the notions of liberté égalité fraternité taken somewhat seriously there, perhaps overly so. (I thought I'd heard Amsterdam speaking something in French the other day. )

It was from his base in France from 1964-79 that the Ayatollah Khomeini directed the Islamic resistance against the Shah of Iran and implemented the daily strategies and tactics of the successful Revolution that drove the Shah from Iran. Khomeini accomplished all this without a word of interference and free of any limitations of his activities by the French government.

With such increased globalization as presently exists, governments aren't quite as independent as they once were, although I wouldn't put it past Francoise Hollande to do much the same under present exigencies.

Thaksin and Amsterdam would be remiss not to at the least check it out. The worst that can happen Is for Hollande to say is non.

So who knows, lightning might strike the shithouse and put PTP back in business. .

I suspect that pre-EU France is different to post-EU France. A very different political kettle of poisson

[Trembly]

The banner should read "Thaksin and Yingluck the comedy duo appearing daily".

Yes indeed, and they will be a comedy duo, that is until the first foreign nation recognizes them Should the U.N., E.U., U.S., Japan or another major country recognize them as the rightful leaders of a government in exile, then the comedy will not be so funny for those military leaders who put themselves out on a limb. If they do indeed set up a government in exile then I think that the U.N. would likely be the first to recognize them and start sanctions against Thailand

First of all any sanctions will not affect Thailand as much as you hope they will... Thailand is a VERY self sufficient nation.

Second, if you think the US is going to host this embarrasment of a government you have another thing coming, it is one thing to issue sterile statements and another to stand defiant and assist a possible civil war in a country that the US really needs to be on side with militarily.

The US needs Thailand more than Thailand needs the US.

Thailand could ride out sanctions for years pal. They don't export billions of gallons of oil or anything really that a country gets massive wealth from.

Rice?...... Plenty of countries will still buy it.

Thailand does NOT depend on the west as much as you have deluded yourself to believe.

Finally..... The army have only just started digging through the dirt, and I would assume in a month or so, they will have so much evidence of corruption and state sponsored terrorism on the lot of them, they will probably all find themselves in the international criminal court.

It won't be too long before the army can prove they have done the right thing to the world, and if Laos or Cambodia want to play host to them, then they ought to watch their own backs.

Much of what you wrote is true....though confining your argument to only the US weakens it a bit, I think. If the international community at large comes down on Thailand, it will be much more difficult to sustain. Few countries, in this interconnected world, are truly disassociated from the international community as a whole. Somalia, Iran, N Korea - are these models to emulate? One thinks not.

Strong international opinion does matter - whether that is the case here remains to be seen but it shouldn't be dismissed so lightly, IMO. Great discussion, btw.

Hello BRICS.... Or should that be BRICTS? Edited May 26, 2014 by Trembly

[Melyn]

I think we can all see a raft of new legislation coming over the next few months - some of it very quickly. Prayuth has had a long time to watch and think and plan.

Anyone contemplating the setting up of a government in exile is likely to be charged with any number of offences - charges that will no doubt preclude them for participation in the next general election.

Here is a list of the possible legislative changes that Prayuth could seek to make.

Ban all activist groups such as red shirts/yellow shirts/PAD/UDD/PDRC

Create a new division of the NACC to handle complaints of political malfeasance and corruption

Crimes by politicians to be subject to 4 times the maximum prison sentence of civilians and a freeze of assets

Ban policemen with any political affiliation from senior posts

Ensure all policies of a financial nature publish monthly or quarterly accounts

Media outlets reporting lies or reporting in an inflammatory manner to lose their licence

Political parties participating in a general election to publish a manifesto at the same time 2 weeks ahead of the election

No political rallies within 2 weeks of elections

Harassment or intimidation of political opponents to result in imprisonment and a ban of that party's participation in that constituency for 4 years

Vote buying - same as above

That's a start

[natway09]

This guy must have such a big ego, it's unbelievable. Wish he would trip over it.

[gemini81]

The Yingluck government was a government in exile run by Thaksin. That was the tragedy of it.

Perhaps the greatest tragedy is that they are still alive.

[PREM-R]

That's why there's a curfew. Hunt down those Cambodian troops for hire, please, and please hunt down the family who is ordering and paying them, along with all the weapons floating around. All the locals know the thats why the curfew. At least things are getting done shutting down this sick dictatorial circus.

"...shutting down this sick dictatorial circus."

To be replaced, at some point in the future, maybe the very distant future with........?

Edited May 26, 2014 by PREM-R

[Morch]

Funny how those ultra powerful persons, try as they might, can't seem to hide their true intentions from you and your ilk.

That must make you feel so...special.

Ilk? Ouch! Just having a conversation here, Sir. Anyway, there's a pattern developing in world events that's undeniable. You can analyze these events and look at the facts, and it leads back to the same organizations every time. I'm no black helicopter/tin foil hat type of guy, I just look at the facts. This announcement by Thaksin's Camp is a trial balloon to gauge the response, and to telegraph the future events to come. You don't need a crystal ball or a hotline with the head office at the CFR to figure that out. Research the lead-up to events in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and many others places where "color revolutions" have taken place. Good day to you sir.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Carlyle_Group

It's a pity you're not a tin foil kinda guy.

Heard they'll be pretty useful when this ominous guys take over.

That's a nice link you gave, unfortunately it does not have a lot to do with your post.

Not does your post got much to do with the topic.

Seriously? You don't understand what I'm saying? I'll spell it out for you:

1. Globalist decide they want to regain control of Thailand to extract the rest of her resources.

2. Globalist foment animosity amongst the population, hence the escalation between the Yellow-Shirt and Red-Shirt movements.

3. Military executes a coup to prevent globalist takeover and needless bloodshed. Thais are fierce protectors of their sovereignty and the globalist know this.

4. Globalist trigger civil war with a "False Flag Event," causing mass devastation and loss of life.

5. Globalist send in "Peace Keeping Troops," to save the Thai people from themselves.

6. Globalist install "Their Guy." (Thaksin) e.g. = Hamid Karzai, Mustafa Abdul-Jalil and etc.

7. "Their Guy," proceeds to dismantle the country, selling state owned industries and anything else that's not bolted down to the highest bidder. Also, GMO farming will be mandatory.

8. The people of Thailand get to pay off their wartime debt to the IMF for generations to come.

Sound familiar? It's happening in Ukraine right now and many other country's, too. The people of Thailand need to wake up! The Globalist want to reinstall Thaksin, or some other jackass, as the Prime Minister and they don't care how many people get hurt along the way! Also, they want Thailand's gold, but I'll save that subject for another thread. Peace-out!

That's nice, dear.

Now...where does it say ANY of that on the link you provided ? (not the infowars one, please, had enough laughs).

And again, nothing in the OP that is even remotely connected to what you preach.

[Morch]

How do you know Thaksin isn't on the traditional side and that the other team.sold the country already to China instead of the globalists?

If he was on the "traditional side," he would have walked away from all of this and stopped causing trouble by now. As for the other side, they've done their fare share of looting, but I don't know of any state owned industries that have been sold or listed on the SET by them. You pose a very good question about the Chinese, but I'm afraid that's a difficult question to answer. I have a feeling they're up to no good and they're trying to secure what they can through they're Thai-Chinese family connections. Time will tell.

Don't be afraid of difficult questions, though. There isn't a question not answerable when one subscribes to conspiracy

theories. Time will tell indeed - sooner or later one of them websites will figure how to integrate it into the general narrative,

and all shall be well.

[Morch]

"Having worked as a consultant for Carlyle during the time they took over Qinetiq, and having got to know their top management quite well, I can tell you that you cannot be further from the truth.

Carlyle ally themselves with the government/military/industrial complex in all cases.

In Thailand the Army IS the military/industrial complex

The last thing they want is to be politically opposed to where they make their money so any support for the likes of Thaksin in a government in exile is out of the question.

You, sir, are just another conspiracy nut-job who believes everything he reads on blogs that feed his fantasy."

Consultant? Ha! You were the hired help! Do you honestly believe they told you about everything they've ever done, or, will ever do? Thaksin was a member of the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board, and that's a fact. Are you suggesting that he never talks with the people that he used to work with at Carlyle? You're a real class-act with the name calling by the way. This is a public forum, not a school playground. Grow up!

"Oh....those guys at Black Water were soooo nice! They could never do anything wrong!" - - Says some silly consultant. Ha!

Of course they wouldn't tell the hired help everything. The keep that for the conspiracy theory websites updates.

I suspect they do that so they can have a laugh about it during their meetings. But that could be my personal conspiracy

theory, so don't take it for granted.

[Sheryl]

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