Where to buy Pueraria Mirifica in Thailand (online)

[peggy80]

I don't live in Thailand, but I would like to buy Pueraria Mirifica (Kwao Krua) root powder.

There are many international online shops who sell it (e.g. Ainterol) but I read that most of the offered products might be fake and not pure Pueraria Mirifica from northern Thailand (where it grows).

Are there any THAI-online shops who sell it and offer international shipping? When I search for "กวาวเครือขาว" I find some shops but I haven't found one with english language.

I definitely want to buy the Pueraria Mirifica root powder (or capsules) in Thailand only to avoid getting a fake product from USA or other countries.

Can you buy Pueraria Mirifica powder or capsules in Thai pharmacies?

Any help would be very much appreciated! Thanks.

Edited June 8, 2014 by peggy80

[roberta]

I live in Bangkok, and by coincidence I bought 100 capsules of this product just yesterday from a small store near my home, at a cost of 220 baht. The brand name is Thanyaporn. This is a very popular and reputable brand widely sold here, and I have no doubt of its authenticity. I take it every day.

They have a website, in Thai and English, and this page - http://www.thanyaporn.com/products_e.asp?parentid=261 - has what you want. You can order it online from there.

[peggy80]

Thanks for your reply. Can you let me know what is written in Thai on the bottle? Does the product contain only PM or any fillers / other herbs? THANKS.

[roberta]

Rather than type it all out for you I have attached photos of front and back of the bottle.

The capsules contain nothing but the advertised ingredient, according to this.

[peggy80]

Thanks, but I cannot read Thai.

[roberta]

Then why did you ask me to tell you what is written on the bottle in Thai? Is this some kind of joke? Are you trying to annoy me? Why?

[peggy80]

No joke. I thought you could maybe read Thai (since you live in Bangkok) and could translate it for me.

Sorry for asking.

[ClutchClark]

Thailand is notorious for counterfeit products.

You are far more likely to find a quality and authentic product if you shop with a US firm in the US, especially a bricks and mortar storefront.

Here in Thailand, the chance you will receive an authentic product is less than 50/50 odds.

[roberta]

Peggy, you asked for a transcript of the Thai-language information on the bottle. If you wanted a translation too I could have provided one had you asked, since I do indeed read Thai. Perhaps I misunderstood you. Anyway, everything in Thai on the label is also provided in English....

On the front it says "medicine capsules kwao kreua white" at the top. At the bottom "medicine usage traditional" "registered at number G 198/45" "100 capsules"

On the back the Thai at the top says the same as the English translation below it. There is no indication of contents other than the name of the herb and quantity per capsule (350 mg).

Since the stuff only grows in Thailand I would expect the chances of getting the real thing here are higher here than they would be in the US. After all, from whence would a US distributor obtain it other than from a Thai distributor?

[peggy80]

Thank you VERY MUCH for your help roberta.

And sorry for the misunderstanding.

PS: I also don't believe there are many fake PM products in Thailand.

[Sheryl]

No, there are not, the only ones tending to be products specifically targeting the tourist/sexpat population. Certainly not Thai herbs, which are largely bought by Thais.

However the quality control for herbal products, here as in many other countries, is very weak. They are not regulated/inspected the way pharmaceuticals are, with the result that you really can't be sure how much active ingrediant is in a product. This is very bit as true in countries like the US where such medications are classified as "nutritional supplements". Not much you can do about it.

[ClutchClark]

No, there are not, the only ones tending to be products specifically targeting the tourist/sexpat population. Certainly not Thai herbs, which are largely bought by Thais.

However the quality control for herbal products, here as in many other countries, is very weak. They are not regulated/inspected the way pharmaceuticals are, with the result that you really can't be sure how much active ingrediant is in a product. This is very bit as true in countries like the US where such medications are classified as "nutritional supplements". Not much you can do about it.

Please provide me with your expertise on this matter. What makes you an expert?

The amount of counterfeit goods of all sorts exists in a very large degree in Thailand and medications are included on that list, including herbal remedies when the consumer cannot be here to physically inspect the product and is going to rely on mailorder. As for the list only including sexpat drugs, I would like to answer that I am 75-years old. I have one woman in my life--my Thai wife. I am at times dependent on drugs to treat erectile disfunction. I am not a sexpat and I find your assumption that anyone that takes drugs for ED is a sexpat.

OP, you asked a question, I provided an answer based on intelligent experience that and advice from my wife. If you want to ignore my response, thats fine but please do not discount me without some type of proof.

Good luck in your search.

Edited June 11, 2014 by ClutchClark

[Sheryl]

No, there are not, the only ones tending to be products specifically targeting the tourist/sexpat population. Certainly not Thai herbs, which are largely bought by Thais.

However the quality control for herbal products, here as in many other countries, is very weak. They are not regulated/inspected the way pharmaceuticals are, with the result that you really can't be sure how much active ingrediant is in a product. This is very bit as true in countries like the US where such medications are classified as "nutritional supplements". Not much you can do about it.

Please provide me with your expertise on this matter. What makes you an expert?

The amount of counterfeit goods of all sorts exists in a very large degree in Thailand and medications are included on that list, including herbal remedies when the consumer cannot be here to physically inspect the product and is going to rely on mailorder. As for the list only including sexpat drugs, I would like to answer that I am 75-years old. I have one woman in my life--my Thai wife. I am at times dependent on drugs to treat erectile disfunction. I am not a sexpat and I find your assumption that anyone that takes drugs for ED is a sexpat.

OP, you asked a question, I provided an answer based on intelligent experience that and advice from my wife. If you want to ignore my response, thats fine but please do not discount me without some type of proof.

Good luck in your search.

I make no such assumption. I was referring to the fake drugs which are widely sold (under fake imported brand names, some of which aren't even registered in Thailand) in prime tourist areas like Soi Nana. Patpong etc. These include not only ED drugs bit other things like xanax etc, and indeed are often fake, Nothing to do with assumptions about ED drugs and who needs them,. An observation based on many decades here as a health professional.

There is no economic incentive for counterfeiting locally made pharmaceuticals, which account for the vast majority of medications used here. the counterfeit racket, in my experience, revolves around expensive foreign brand names and is geared to tourists.

[Sandman77]

On eBay description about this product

Make more young and the nom breasts bigger, so belive it or not I not belive, only a marketing show!

[ClutchClark]

No, there are not, the only ones tending to be products specifically targeting the tourist/sexpat population. Certainly not Thai herbs, which are largely bought by Thais.

However the quality control for herbal products, here as in many other countries, is very weak. They are not regulated/inspected the way pharmaceuticals are, with the result that you really can't be sure how much active ingrediant is in a product. This is very bit as true in countries like the US where such medications are classified as "nutritional supplements". Not much you can do about it.

Please provide me with your expertise on this matter. What makes you an expert?

The amount of counterfeit goods of all sorts exists in a very large degree in Thailand and medications are included on that list, including herbal remedies when the consumer cannot be here to physically inspect the product and is going to rely on mailorder. As for the list only including sexpat drugs, I would like to answer that I am 75-years old. I have one woman in my life--my Thai wife. I am at times dependent on drugs to treat erectile disfunction. I am not a sexpat and I find your assumption that anyone that takes drugs for ED is a sexpat.

OP, you asked a question, I provided an answer based on intelligent experience that and advice from my wife. If you want to ignore my response, thats fine but please do not discount me without some type of proof.

Good luck in your search.

I make no such assumption. I was referring to the fake drugs which are widely sold (under fake imported brand names, some of which aren't even registered in Thailand) in prime tourist areas like Soi Nana. Patpong etc. These include not only ED drugs bit other things like xanax etc, and indeed are often fake, Nothing to do with assumptions about ED drugs and who needs them,. An observation based on many decades here as a health professional.

There is no economic incentive for counterfeiting locally made pharmaceuticals, which account for the vast majority of medications used here. the counterfeit racket, in my experience, revolves around expensive foreign brand names and is geared to tourists.

I would say there is always an incentive to make things cheaper in order to increase profits and there is always someone willing to do so in a dishonest fashion.

And for future reference, when discussing drugs to treat ED please refrain from using the term "sexpat" when describing men who use them. It is very insulting and misandrist. If you wish to say that ED drugs are commonly fake in certain parts of the city then say, "Fake ED drugs are common in certain parts of the city" and not that sexpat drugs are fake.

Edited June 11, 2014 by ClutchClark

[roberta]

I think "sexpat" very nicely describes the kind of leering drunken foreigners who infest places like Soi Cowboy and are the common targets for the sale of fake recreational pharmaceuticals!

Well, this is ThaiVisa, so I suppose we have to expect some man to interrupt our conversation and try to subvert it into yet another Thailand-bashing thread, as if we don't have enough of those already.

Sheryl has helped so many to find the medical help and information they need. She is clearly a knowledgeable professional and I think we should listen to what she says, and refrain from scornful commentary on this warm and friendly country, where we who live here are all guests.

This will be my last comment in this thread.