RS allows TrueVisions to broadcast all World Cup 2014 matches

[HerbalEd]

This means that I have to change from CTH to the "f**king" terrible service of True again ??? The only thing where True good for is, are troubles.

You must have a different True TV service that I. For several years now I've had excellent service.

[splodger]

Eagerly awaiting the USA victory in soccer

What is soccer it's FOOTBALL,and you'll be waiting a while.

[splodger]

Is CTH cable or satellite?Sorry if I'm stupid but never heard of it before.

[stoneyboy]

Is CTH cable or satellite?Sorry if I'm stupid but never heard of it before.

CTH is another satellite and cable TV provider,cable services is limited to my knowledge.

They currently hold the rights to the English Premier League.

[Captor]

Will be using XBMC to watch so don't care.. free

Hi, how are you doing that? I mean looking the games by XBMC? I have that as well in my computer but don´t know from were to get the matches inside the XBMC?

[haiku]

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Hopefully it won't interfere with the international rugby.

No, the squashed ball stuff will be screened at a time of day when most of us are still awake alt=coffee1.gif width=32 height=24>

The footie will be in the middle of the night alt=coffee1.gif width=32 height=24> alt=coffee1.gif width=32 height=24> alt=coffee1.gif width=32 height=24>

What about replays? Will they repeat matches latter in the day?

[332]

stream all my live sports.

Free.

HD.

In English.

[bartender100]

I will watch the games at home, but probably go out somewhere to watch England in the final

[Bernard Flint]

This means that I have to change from CTH to the "f**king" terrible service of True again ??? The only thing where True good for is, are troubles.

You must have a different True TV service that I. For several years now I've had excellent service.

Same as me, much better than it used to be and miles ahead of CTH

[Bangon]

A TrueVisions executive said its 2.4 million subscribers on all packages will be able to watch the World Cup Channel produced by RS.

A National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) source said this agreement may violate its "must-have" rule. RS is still fighting a court case in the Supreme Administrative Court against the NBTC, which ordered the company to broadcast all 64 World Cup matches on free TV. The court will rule on the case today.

The must-have rule requires seven sporting events to be broadcast on free TV so the public can enjoy watching the games.

Just for clarification the sub-leasing to True has got nothing to do with the court case between NBTC and RS.....For me RS have done this deal with true as a contingency plan should the Supreme courts verdict go against them!...The "must have" rule is for big sporting events around the world to be shown free for all on TV and the WORLD CUP is undoubtedly one of the "must have" events.

I think it could rumble on but eventually be shown on free tv.RS have been lucky by managing to secure some funds from True(they know the ruling will go against them eventually) or why else would they have let them have a piece of the cake.

[kingalfred]

The country has a law that states the World Cup must be free to air and if the court doesnt uphold the NBTC appeal it will be to the detriment of poorer Thais with no Pay TV

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[kingalfred]

Many of you are forgetting that most matches will be at 2-5 am.

The opener Brazil-Croatia on Thursday at 3 am. hmmm.

wrong. , many games are at 23.00 and 05.00 including the England v Italy opening game at 5am

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[HeavyDrinker]

According to Richard Barrow it is 'most likely' all games will be shown free to air. I assume the problem most people have is with the Thai commentaries or it not being in High Definition????

Sadly the article seems little more than a plug for the 'expat TV" package type things

http://www.richardbarrow.com/2014/05/how-to-watch-the-world-cup-on-demand-in-thailand/

Thai Kick off times here.

http://udon-news.com/en/downloads/world-cup-brazil-2014-thai-time-match-schedule

[HOAX]

lol you got to be kidding me? I specifically called RS just 2 days ago to ask if anyone else will send World Cup. No they said. They had the exclusive rights and will be the only one they said. So, like many others in this area, I went over the street to get that RS HD thing, not even hooked it up yet lol. The money doesn`t bother me, but the fact that they knowingly lie and are telling people this just 3 days before the world cup starts, and basically let thousands of people waste their precious money and hassle for absolutely nothing, that makes me angry, mildly speaking. If this isn`t a scam, then what is? I know of several ordinary Thai households with really not much to spare that will feel at leased the same way, if not worse. Some of these This even had to buy a new PSI parabol. Almost everyone in this neighborhood already had TrueVision. I never even liked RS in the first place.

Anyway. World Cup is just around the corner. I don`t want to waste another single neuron on thinking about this company ever again.

[verinaughty]

Anyone have any news on a bar that will be showing the England Italy match?

there might be 1 in chian mai or chiang rai, my informants tell me lol

[verinaughty]

The Sportsman pub on sukhumvit soi 13, bangkok showing every game.

[HOAX]

May I ask which channels on TrueVision (Gold) are sending the World Cup?

Alternatively, if a problem occur with True, which channels sends the World Cup on the RS HD box?

[kingalfred]

According to Richard Barrow it is 'most likely' all games will be shown free to air. I assume the problem most people have is with the Thai commentaries or it not being in High Definition????

Sadly the article seems little more than a plug for the 'expat TV" package type things

http://www.richardbarrow.com/2014/05/how-to-watch-the-world-cup-on-demand-in-thailand/

Thai Kick off times here.

http://udon-news.com/en/downloads/world-cup-brazil-2014-thai-time-match-schedule

barrow is always plugin something. Not independent

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[kingalfred]

The Sportsman pub on sukhumvit soi 13, bangkok showing every game.

check times before thinking about going to a bar .23.00 maybe ok but England v Italy at 5am? Watch it at home on tv or computer/pad

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[kingalfred]

lol you got to be kidding me? I specifically called RS just 2 days ago to ask if anyone else will send World Cup. No they said. They had the exclusive rights and will be the only one they said. So, like many others in this area, I went over the street to get that RS HD thing, not even hooked it up yet lol. The money doesn`t bother me, but the fact that they knowingly lie and are telling people this just 3 days before the world cup starts, and basically let thousands of people waste their precious money and hassle for absolutely nothing, that makes me angry, mildly speaking. If this isn`t a scam, then what is? I know of several ordinary Thai households with really not much to spare that will feel at leased the same way, if not worse. Some of these This even had to buy a new PSI parabol. Almost everyone in this neighborhood already had TrueVision. I never even liked RS in the first place.

Anyway. World Cup is just around the corner. I don`t want to waste another single neuron on thinking about this company ever again.

ahh how selfish . You dont want folk, particularly Thais who cant afford Pay -TV to see the games?

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[mojorison]

Eagerly awaiting the USA victory in soccer

What is soccer it's FOOTBALL,and you'll be waiting a while.

The head and hands are used as well... so I'll meet you half way and we'll call it foot-hand-head ball. OK?

3 AM who gives a toss anyway? Once your fave is out, you'll be staying in bed and watching highlights anyway next day...

[Overandout]

The country has a law that states the World Cup must be free to air and if the court doesnt uphold the NBTC appeal it will be to the detriment of poorer Thais with no Pay TV

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Whilst I feel sorry for the Thais who in theory have a right to free WC football, just think about the legal implications of such a court ruling.

Two private legal entities enter into a completely legal contract, one paying the other for a service in return. Several years later a government body decides to pass a law making this agreement (sale of such services under the conditions signed up to) illegal.

If the court decides that the law is retroactive this will mean that private legal entities in Thailand will not be safe to enter into completely legal transactions for the fear that a future change in law can strip them of the benefits gained under the contract and possibly even force them to be in material breach of a contract under an international jurisdiction....

If you sold me a car tomorrow, then three years later a law was passed prohibiting, retroactively, the sale of cars between private individuals, would you happily hand me back my money? Its tantamount to the same thing.

If the court rules in favour of RS, it will be a victory for the Thai legal system but against Public Interest. If they rule in favour of NBTC it will be good for Public Interest but make a mockery out of the Thai legal system.

I do not know which way they will go, but I, as judge, would struggle to defend a ruling against RS.

[HOAX]

lol you got to be kidding me? I specifically called RS just 2 days ago to ask if anyone else will send World Cup. No they said. They had the exclusive rights and will be the only one they said. So, like many others in this area, I went over the street to get that RS HD thing, not even hooked it up yet lol. The money doesn`t bother me, but the fact that they knowingly lie and are telling people this just 3 days before the world cup starts, and basically let thousands of people waste their precious money and hassle for absolutely nothing, that makes me angry, mildly speaking. If this isn`t a scam, then what is? I know of several ordinary Thai households with really not much to spare that will feel at leased the same way, if not worse. Some of these This even had to buy a new PSI parabol. Almost everyone in this neighborhood already had TrueVision. I never even liked RS in the first place.

Anyway. World Cup is just around the corner. I don`t want to waste another single neuron on thinking about this company ever again.

ahh how selfish . You dont want folk, particularly Thais who cant afford Pay -TV to see the games?

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Of course I want. In fact, world cup should`ve been broadcasted for free to everyone according to ntbc. But I was talking about the fact that they knowingly scam people to buy their services. Had they at leased told people earlier that they will let True send world cup then thousands wouldn`t buy RS boxes, because they already had True.

[Bangon]

The country has a law that states the World Cup must be free to air and if the court doesnt uphold the NBTC appeal it will be to the detriment of poorer Thais with no Pay TV

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Whilst I feel sorry for the Thais who in theory have a right to free WC football, just think about the legal implications of such a court ruling.

Two private legal entities enter into a completely legal contract, one paying the other for a service in return. Several years later a government body decides to pass a law making this agreement (sale of such services under the conditions signed up to) illegal.

If the court decides that the law is retroactive this will mean that private legal entities in Thailand will not be safe to enter into completely legal transactions for the fear that a future change in law can strip them of the benefits gained under the contract and possibly even force them to be in material breach of a contract under an international jurisdiction....

If you sold me a car tomorrow, then three years later a law was passed prohibiting, retroactively, the sale of cars between private individuals, would you happily hand me back my money? Its tantamount to the same thing.

If the court rules in favour of RS, it will be a victory for the Thai legal system but against Public Interest. If they rule in favour of NBTC it will be good for Public Interest but make a mockery out of the Thai legal system.

I do not know which way they will go, but I, as judge, would struggle to defend a ruling against RS.

It wasn't years later.... the law was passed in November and RS bought the rights last year also they were made aware that this law was coming,but still bid as the advertising revenues alone are the major draw for gaining the rights for all companies.

The law is now in place if the supreme court allow RS to continue then that is making a mockery of the legal system here wouldn't you agree.

On another subject about another World Cup fiasco involving Thailand read here http://rt.com/news/164580-qatar-sony-corruption-cup/

[chrisrazz]

For anyone interested, these guys stream live radio commentaries for all EPL and WC games.

http://talksport.com/radio/how-to-listen

[nightshift]

lol you got to be kidding me? I specifically called RS just 2 days ago to ask if anyone else will send World Cup. No they said. They had the exclusive rights and will be the only one they said. So, like many others in this area, I went over the street to get that RS HD thing, not even hooked it up yet lol. The money doesn`t bother me, but the fact that they knowingly lie and are telling people this just 3 days before the world cup starts, and basically let thousands of people waste their precious money and hassle for absolutely nothing, that makes me angry, mildly speaking. If this isn`t a scam, then what is? I know of several ordinary Thai households with really not much to spare that will feel at leased the same way, if not worse. Some of these This even had to buy a new PSI parabol. Almost everyone in this neighborhood already had TrueVision. I never even liked RS in the first place.

Anyway. World Cup is just around the corner. I don`t want to waste another single neuron on thinking about this company ever again.

ahh how selfish . You dont want folk, particularly Thais who cant afford Pay -TV to see the games?

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Of course I want. In fact, world cup should`ve been broadcasted for free to everyone according to ntbc. But I was talking about the fact that they knowingly scam people to buy their services. Had they at leased told people earlier that they will let True send world cup then thousands wouldn`t buy RS boxes, because they already had True.

Hoax, I just got my PSI HD box installed on Saturday, by unplugging my True dish and moving it to the correct transponder. What a waste of time and money. RS have really annoyed me with this. True will probably do Endlish commentary,too, so I will throw the PSI box in the bin and start again.

[nightshift]

The country has a law that states the World Cup must be free to air and if the court doesnt uphold the NBTC appeal it will be to the detriment of poorer Thais with no Pay TV

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Whilst I feel sorry for the Thais who in theory have a right to free WC football, just think about the legal implications of such a court ruling.

Two private legal entities enter into a completely legal contract, one paying the other for a service in return. Several years later a government body decides to pass a law making this agreement (sale of such services under the conditions signed up to) illegal.

If the court decides that the law is retroactive this will mean that private legal entities in Thailand will not be safe to enter into completely legal transactions for the fear that a future change in law can strip them of the benefits gained under the contract and possibly even force them to be in material breach of a contract under an international jurisdiction....

If you sold me a car tomorrow, then three years later a law was passed prohibiting, retroactively, the sale of cars between private individuals, would you happily hand me back my money? Its tantamount to the same thing.

If the court rules in favour of RS, it will be a victory for the Thai legal system but against Public Interest. If they rule in favour of NBTC it will be good for Public Interest but make a mockery out of the Thai legal system.

I do not know which way they will go, but I, as judge, would struggle to defend a ruling against RS.

It wasn't years later.... the law was passed in November and RS bought the rights last year also they were made aware that this law was coming,but still bid as the advertising revenues alone are the major draw for gaining the rights for all companies.

The law is now in place if the supreme court allow RS to continue then that is making a mockery of the legal system here wouldn't you agree.

On another subject about another World Cup fiasco involving Thailand read here http://rt.com/news/164580-qatar-sony-corruption-cup/

RS bought the rights to South Africa and Brazil 10 years ago.

[Overandout]

The country has a law that states the World Cup must be free to air and if the court doesnt uphold the NBTC appeal it will be to the detriment of poorer Thais with no Pay TV

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Whilst I feel sorry for the Thais who in theory have a right to free WC football, just think about the legal implications of such a court ruling.

Two private legal entities enter into a completely legal contract, one paying the other for a service in return. Several years later a government body decides to pass a law making this agreement (sale of such services under the conditions signed up to) illegal.

If the court decides that the law is retroactive this will mean that private legal entities in Thailand will not be safe to enter into completely legal transactions for the fear that a future change in law can strip them of the benefits gained under the contract and possibly even force them to be in material breach of a contract under an international jurisdiction....

If you sold me a car tomorrow, then three years later a law was passed prohibiting, retroactively, the sale of cars between private individuals, would you happily hand me back my money? Its tantamount to the same thing.

If the court rules in favour of RS, it will be a victory for the Thai legal system but against Public Interest. If they rule in favour of NBTC it will be good for Public Interest but make a mockery out of the Thai legal system.

I do not know which way they will go, but I, as judge, would struggle to defend a ruling against RS.

It wasn't years later.... the law was passed in November and RS bought the rights last year also they were made aware that this law was coming,but still bid as the advertising revenues alone are the major draw for gaining the rights for all companies.

The law is now in place if the supreme court allow RS to continue then that is making a mockery of the legal system here wouldn't you agree.

On another subject about another World Cup fiasco involving Thailand read here http://rt.com/news/164580-qatar-sony-corruption-cup/

If you have privileged information from within the legal proceedings or otherwise then I will not argue.

However the information in the public domain (i.e. the press, not based on what other TVF members have said) indicates that RS successfully won the franchise rights in September 2005 (which would indicate that the bidding process would have been conducted some time before that), whereas the Must Have Rule came into effect in January this year.

Now, I have no evidence to show that RS were not made aware of the coming into effect of the Rule before September 2005 (much as I suspect that you don't have any evidence to the contrary), but I find it hard to believe that the NBTC would have advised of any such intentions more than 8 years before they were implemented.....

Even if the intention of the rule implementation was planned in advance, which I would assume it was, how was such a plan communicated? To whom? And when? These are questions which I genuinely can't answer by the way.

So, if this press information is wrong, and RS did in fact know in 2005 that the Must Have rule would come into force, then I hope that the court is shown that evidence and that common sense prevails for the good of Public Interest, however the circumstantial facts as I can see them do not point that way.

Obviously today's hearing will go into more depth than we can here, but I work with Thai lawyers who are very interested in the outcome of this case, not really for the football implications but for the legal.

Edited to add: A bit of digging shows that the draft "Must Have Rules" principles went through their first public hearing on 11th Nov 2012 and were submitted to the NBTC board for approval on 14th Nov 2012. So I'm really struggling to see how RS were supposed to have known about this in 2005.

[hullupullo]

May I ask which channels on TrueVision (Gold) are sending the World Cup?

Alternatively, if a problem occur with True, which channels sends the World Cup on the RS HD box?

HD boxes Word Cup HD ch 668 and ASN2 ch 678

SD boxes World Cup SD ch 99 and Channel 8 ch37

Check ch 668 now, text info there

[yabbra]

May I ask which channels on TrueVision (Gold) are sending the World Cup?

Alternatively, if a problem occur with True, which channels sends the World Cup on the RS HD box?

HD boxes Word Cup HD ch 668 and ASN2 ch 678

SD boxes World Cup SD ch 99 and Channel 8 ch37

Check ch 668 now, text info there

Yep, Channel 668 (whole tournament) & 678 (for co-current matches) are the ones...Final & most important thing of all...Can anyone in the know completely & utterly confirm if their will be English commentary available? Because if not I'll be going for the Expat TV stream...Maybe we might have to wait for the first game to kickoff to know for sure lol..