Shock defeat of majority leader Eric Cantor by Tea Party sends shockwaves through Republican Party

[Chicog]

People who believe the Tea Party is a 'fringe' group have no idea who the typical Tea Party member is and are just regurgitating hate filled propaganda formulated by the wacko media team a places like MSNBC...

Agreed. There has been a serious attempt to marginalize them in the same way that they have done with Fox News and they have been very successful at it. Having most of the mainstream media supporting their efforts almost guarantees success, no matter how nonsensical the characterization.

But pointing out the blinding truth also works.

[CMNightRider]

I have never understood the fascination so many conservative Americans have with Teabagging , or whatever it is they call their movement.

The entire philosophy seems to be focused on obstructionism and not in the spirit of compromise that our Nation was founded on.

I have spoken to many of these teabaggers (?) and they are all so angry about everything. There is not a topic they are not pissed off about.

The "Tea Party" is a political movement known for advocating a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit. They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

"Obstructionism"??? I think not. The Tea Party are patriots who are rightfully concerned about Obama, and his band of looney liberal leftist that are doing everything possible to ruin America. "You can't be right if you're left."

[ClutchClark]

I have never understood the fascination so many conservative Americans have with Teabagging , or whatever it is they call their movement.

The entire philosophy seems to be focused on obstructionism and not in the spirit of compromise that our Nation was founded on.

I have spoken to many of these teabaggers (?) and they are all so angry about everything. There is not a topic they are not pissed off about.

The "Tea Party" is a political movement known for advocating a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit. They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

"Obstructionism"??? I think not. The Tea Party are patriots who are rightfully concerned about Obama, and his band of looney liberal leftist that are doing everything possible to ruin America. "You can't be right if you're left."

You ever hear what happened to the Patriot, Ton Coburn? He was essentially a poster child of the TP movement who made one fatal error, he attempted to compromise on a piece of legislation.

http://www.newsweek.com/tom-coburn-tea-party-turncoat-68375

[CMNightRider]

I have never understood the fascination so many conservative Americans have with Teabagging , or whatever it is they call their movement.

The entire philosophy seems to be focused on obstructionism and not in the spirit of compromise that our Nation was founded on.

I have spoken to many of these teabaggers (?) and they are all so angry about everything. There is not a topic they are not pissed off about.

The "Tea Party" is a political movement known for advocating a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit. They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

"Obstructionism"??? I think not. The Tea Party are patriots who are rightfully concerned about Obama, and his band of looney liberal leftist that are doing everything possible to ruin America. "You can't be right if you're left."

You ever hear what happened to the Patriot, Ton Coburn? He was essentially a poster child of the TP movement who made one fatal error, he attempted to compromise on a piece of legislation.

http://www.newsweek.com/tom-coburn-tea-party-turncoat-68375

Maybe he shouldn't have attempted to compromise on such a serous issue.

[Chicog]

They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

In the minds of some indoctrinated God botherer maybe.

[NeverSure]

They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

In the minds of some indoctrinated God botherer maybe.

Why don't you give it up? The election is over and your side lost. Are you running for election or something?

Tea Party supporters tend to be single issue voters. If they are adamant about reducing government, debt and deficits, the Tea Party is the only place they can look. Same with illegal immigration. Libertarians tend to support the Tea Party but they are pro-abortion, for legalizing pot and some other drugs, and some of the other things on the list.

Repubs and dems are OK with abortion and increasingly with pot, so it's not the worry. I can't understand why you don't see it, and see why Cantor got his butt kicked. He was pro-big government, pro-Wall Street, a DC insider, and a big spender. He needed to be outta here.

Edited June 17, 2014 by NeverSure

[ClutchClark]

I have never understood the fascination so many conservative Americans have with Teabagging , or whatever it is they call their movement.

The entire philosophy seems to be focused on obstructionism and not in the spirit of compromise that our Nation was founded on.

I have spoken to many of these teabaggers (?) and they are all so angry about everything. There is not a topic they are not pissed off about.

The "Tea Party" is a political movement known for advocating a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit. They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

"Obstructionism"??? I think not. The Tea Party are patriots who are rightfully concerned about Obama, and his band of looney liberal leftist that are doing everything possible to ruin America. "You can't be right if you're left."

You ever hear what happened to the Patriot, Ton Coburn? He was essentially a poster child of the TP movement who made one fatal error, he attempted to compromise on a piece of legislation.

http://www.newsweek.com/tom-coburn-tea-party-turncoat-68375

Maybe he shouldn't have attempted to compromise on such a serous issue.

Are you having fun with me? Because you just made my point. Tea Partiers refuse compromise and punish those within their movement when they do compromise, and all it takes is once for even a leader of the movement, a red blooded Patriot, to be banished.

I am not anti-TP anymore than I am anti-OWS. Each of these movements is a reaction to a failed political system and these disenfranchised voters are gaining momentum. I am all for it; however, I think its valuable for these groups to atleast have an honest view of their strengths and shortcomings.

[Chicog]

They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

In the minds of some indoctrinated God botherers maybe.

Why don't you give it up? The election is over and your side lost. Are you running for election or something?

I'm sorry but you've lost me.

What election? What side?

[chuckd]

They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

In the minds of some indoctrinated God botherers maybe.

Why don't you give it up? The election is over and your side lost. Are you running for election or something?

I'm sorry but you've lost me.

What election? What side?

Uh, the title of this thread is...

Shock defeat of majority leader Eric Cantor by Tea Party sends shockwaves through Republican Party

[NeverSure]

I just love the word "obstructionist." It's only true when the other guy is trying to stop you from getting what you want.

[Chicog]

Uh, the title of this thread is...

Shock defeat of majority leader Eric Cantor by Tea Party sends shockwaves through Republican Party

Ummmm... I know what the title is.

But what is "my side"?

And what am I supposed to "give up"?

[ClutchClark]

Obstructionist: One who "systematically" blocks a process.

Compromise: A settlement of differences in which each side makes concessions.

Please provide all the examples of the TP politicians who have compromised on legislation in a good faith effort because the TP members I have spoken to are rather proud of their position of blocking and stonewalling rather than compromising on the various issues someone listed previously in this thread. They have indicated to me that they would rather see no progress if their demands are not met.

Perhaps its just my region of the country or that I affiliate with the curmudgeon wing of the movement.

[NeverSure]

One can take any hot topic in politics and find that there is one or another party which won't compromise on it. Gay rights, women's rights, abortion, gun rights, on and on...

If every time someone took a firm stance on one of those issues he was an obstructionist rather than someone standing by his personally, strongly held beliefs, then everyone would be an obstructionist on something.

"Obstructionist" is a handy label for the loser to use against the winner.

[chuckd]

Nobody blocks more legislation than Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), Majority Leader of the US Senate.

[Chicog]

Nobody blocks more legislation than Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), Majority Leader of the US Senate.

Nobody blocks more useful legislation than Boehner.

[ClutchClark]

Nobody wants to provide me with those examples?

Anyone?

Hello?

[CMNightRider]

They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

In the minds of some indoctrinated God botherer maybe.

You don't like people that are religious either? The above mentioned topics are noble causes for any concerned citizen with a little common sense.

[tw25rw]

They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

In the minds of some indoctrinated God botherer maybe.

You don't like people that are religious either? The above mentioned topics are noble causes for any concerned citizen with a little common sense.

They're all noble causes. It's their point of view that matters.

[CMNightRider]

They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

In the minds of some indoctrinated God botherer maybe.

You don't like people that are religious either? The above mentioned topics are noble causes for any concerned citizen with a little common sense.

They're all noble causes. It's their point of view that matters.

Yes, like I stated before, "you can't be right if you're left," lol.

[Chicog]

They tend to act on social issues such as abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration. All are noble causes.

In the minds of some indoctrinated God botherer maybe.

You don't like people that are religious either? The above mentioned topics are noble causes for any concerned citizen with a little common sense.

I don't like people who force their religious beliefs on others. That has nothing to do with respecting peoples' religious beliefs.

Prayer doesn't belong in school, it belongs at home if parents wish to indoctrinate their kids; they have no right to try and indoctrinate others.

Abortion is a woman's choice; it's her body.

Gun Control has little to do with religion..

Illegal immigration isn't a religious issue either (or it shouldn't be!).

Two of the above causes are primarily religious issues; the other two are open to debate.

[tw25rw]

You don't like people that are religious either? The above mentioned topics are noble causes for any concerned citizen with a little common sense.

They're all noble causes. It's their point of view that matters.

Yes, like I stated before, "you can't be right if you're left," lol.

I don't think there's a particularly 'left' point of view on any of these matters.

[CMNightRider]

You don't like people that are religious either? The above mentioned topics are noble causes for any concerned citizen with a little common sense.

They're all noble causes. It's their point of view that matters.

Yes, like I stated before, "you can't be right if you're left," lol.

I don't think there's a particularly 'left' point of view on any of these matters.

Where have you been? The left and right are deeply divided on abortion, gun control, prayer in schools, and illegal immigration.

[tw25rw]

I'm generally anti abortion and illegal immigration and religion in schools but pro gun control. What would that make me?

[Chicog]

I'm generally anti abortion and illegal immigration and religion in schools but pro gun control. What would that make me?

Just someone with their own opinions like most here.

[Pinot]

The biggest issue for all Republicans and especially the Tea Party is that damn negro in the White House.

[Chicog]

The biggest issue for all Republicans and especially the Tea Party is that damn negro in the White House.

They'll have the same illogical and pathological hatred for a woman as well.

[Ulysses G.]

That kind of dishonest rhetoric is simple-minded. Many Republicans would vote for Dr Ben Carsons or Sarah Palin. I don't consider myself a Republican but I would vote for Condoleezza Rice before any other candidate that I can think of on either side.

[Scott]

Thanks for that insightful post UG. I am fairly liberal (I have a cousin who is a Republican representative, though and family trumps politics even at the voting booth), but Condolezza Rice would be an interesting choice. That would certainly mix up a lot of things. Republican, black, a woman and probably less 'bought and paid for' than a lot of politicians on both sides. She's conservative, but she doesn't seem to be a little more mellow than some of the hard liners.

She also plays a mean piano.

[Ulysses G.]

I would not vote for Dr Ben Carsons, because he does not have any political experience. I would not vote for Palin, because she is too far right for me and because she quit her job in Alaska as Governor, but I really admire Condi Rice and her sex and race are not the main reasons why.

Edited June 20, 2014 by Ulysses G.

[Chicog]

Thankfully there are many more reasons why people wouldn't vote for that harridan that don't include her race or gender.