HSS to investigate Australians hiring Thai surrogate mother
By Digital Content



BANGKOK, Aug 4 -- Thai Department of Health Service Support (HSS) dispatched representatives to gather more information about the case where an Australian national hired a Thai surrogate mother but abandoned the infant after finding that it has Down's syndrome.

Meanwhile, the authorities were also to inspect surrogate clinics and physicians for licences.

Dr Akom Praditsuwan, director of the Sanatorium and the Arts of Healing Bureau under the HSS, said a team of officials would be dispatched today to investigate the case of an Australian national hiring a Thai surrogate mother, but when the baby boy was born with Down's syndrome, the Australian left the infant in Thailand.

Dr Akom said the authorities would inspect the clinic which provided the service, along with the legally responsible physician and his license.

If found without the necessary licence, the physician could be fined Bt30,000 and/or imprisoned for one year in accordance with the Nursing Act for providing inappropriate services.

The licence of the physician could also be revoked, as the case would be referred to the Medical Council of Thailand for further consideration, including punishment.

As a preliminary prevention measure, the HSS has examined information on 12 clinics providing surrogate services, as well as inspecting each clinic. Seen of the 12 clinics have legal licences, while five others do not. (MCOT online news)

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There certainly needs to be an investigation , according to the Australian couple they never knew that another baby existed and the surrogate mothers name isn't the same as they dealt with, they have hired a lawyer, so yes investigate and do it properly.

Yeah the rush to judgement has proceeded without hearing both sides. Personally I find it highly plausible that Thai agent lied to both parties. Having donated which I was happy to do...( A few beers that I won't miss) now seeing her say on Oz TV she might sue them for saying he didn't know about the boy because it hurts her dignity and she wants him to come here and let her confront him in front of the media...well that's a fast way to lose goodwill...

Yes indeed.

 

Smells hugely of a cynical con trick. And not by the Australians.

 

Let's see how many other occurrences spring up, inspired by the vast amount of money donated by fools who know nothing of the grab-it-all-if-possible culture.

Yes indeed.

 

Smells hugely of a cynical con trick. And not by the Australians.

 

Let's see how many other occurrences spring up, inspired by the vast amount of money donated by fools who know nothing of the grab-it-all-if-possible culture.

 

I wish I could write what I think of you in this space. I'll just wish you good karma.

 

That is some con trick, planning to have a Down's Syndrome baby and then actually having it and then conning people out of their money to help to care for it. Yes.... may karma prove itself to you.

 

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There certainly needs to be an investigation , according to the Australian couple they never knew that another baby existed and the surrogate mothers name isn't the same as they dealt with, they have hired a lawyer, so yes investigate and do it properly.

 

Looks to me as though this secrecy means that there would have been a second baby for sale had it been normal and healthy.
 

Edited August 4, 201411 yr by oldsailor35

Yes indeed.
 
Smells hugely of a cynical con trick. And not by the Australians.
 
Let's see how many other occurrences spring up, inspired by the vast amount of money donated by fools who know nothing of the grab-it-all-if-possible culture.

Your just a typical Australian !! 98% of them are d@#6 heads.

The plot continues this morning with Oz media reports  that the Australian father spent time in clink on child sex charges, something smells big time , they also say he visited both children in hospital, when in Thailand, the Oz couple say that the name of the surrogate mother wasn't the same as theirs and they only seen one child, so investigate, do it properly ,  lets see if a scam has been done on the world, because this has gone international.  

 

Yes indeed.
 
Smells hugely of a cynical con trick. And not by the Australians.
 
Let's see how many other occurrences spring up, inspired by the vast amount of money donated by fools who know nothing of the grab-it-all-if-possible culture.

Your just a typical Australian !! 98% of them are d@#6 heads.

 

and are you a English skin head living in Pattaya ?

 

Unlike you this is a question not a statement

 

 

I find your comments very offensive and am amazed that you comments have been allowed to rtemain on this posting

Health ministry probe into surrogacy case
Chamnan Jai-Ua,
Puangchompoo Prasert
The Nation, Agencies



BANGKOK: -- The Public Health Ministry has launched a fact-finding probe into a case of surrogacy in which a baby boy born with Down's syndrome and congenital heart problem late last year was left with the Thai mother.

The priority is to try to determine whether the clinic in Thailand that carried out the operation for an Australian couple was registered with a regulatory body.

Arkom Praditsuwan, a senior ministry official tasked with the probe, said operators that fail to register with the Royal Thai College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RTCOG) but do surrogacy would be subject to up a year in prison and/or a fine of up to Bt20,000.

They could also have their licence revoked if found guilty by the Medical Council of Thailand in a further investigation into the morality and professional ethics of the case.

Arkom later said it was likely that a private clinic, which has now closed down, performed the surrogacy in question, with the twins - the boy with Down's syndrome and his sister - delivered at a large private hospital located in surburban Bangkok.

The director of the Bureau of Sanatorium and Healing Arts under the Department of Health Service Support has said there are seven clinics licensed to do surrogacy operations while another five are suspected to do them illegally.

A probe was also underway into the doctors who performed the surrogacy in question - whether they were granted a licence by the RTCOG. Arkom said they would be penalised by the Medical Council if found to have operated without a licence.

Secretary-general of the Medical Council of Thailand, Dr Sampandh Komrit, said there were 45 qualified surrogacy experts registered with the Royal Thai College. Those found to have done this surrogacy case would ultimately face having their medical licence revoked, or suspended and on probation, or disciplinary action for lesser offences.

Under regulations in Thailand, a surrogate can only accept an embryo from a mother who is a relative (and her husband). It is illegal for money to be given to the surrogate who bears the child.

The Australian media reported yesterday that the Australian man in this case denied abandoning the Down's syndrome boy while taking his healthy twin sister back to Bunbury, a small town south of Perth.

The unnamed father said a Thai doctor had only told them about the girl. He told the ABC there had been many problems with the surrogacy agency, which he was told no longer exists.

The mother Pattaramon Chanbua, 21, was lauded by Australian Immigration Minister Scott Morrison for agreeing to take care of the boy, whose condition was regarded as "life-threatening", hailing her as "a saint".

"It is terrible, just absolutely horrible and heartbreaking," Morrison said of the case. "But I have got to tell you who is an absolute hero in all of this and that is the Thai mother. She is a saint," Morrison was quoted by AFP as saying.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Health-ministry-probe-into-surrogacy-case-30240231.html

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Yes indeed.

 

Smells hugely of a cynical con trick. And not by the Australians.

 

Let's see how many other occurrences spring up, inspired by the vast amount of money donated by fools who know nothing of the grab-it-all-if-possible culture.

 

This has become an iceberg situation with most of the truth being hidden under the surface

 

It has now been revealed that the new father has a criminal history against children and this was an under the counter agreement based on money, as he could not go through the normal channels with a criminal records against a child under 13 in Australia

 

Many Thai ladies do not plan scams, they are placed before them by better get rich people and they jump at the oppotunity

I have no facts to say if it was or was not, but things are now showing 2 side of the story as is now comes to light that the Australian couple where never told there was a 2nd baby.

 

the fact if she was a healthy baby would have double the pay out seems to show there is more to this than the iceberg reveals 

a team of officials would be dispatched today to investigate the case

How's Perth during winter? Imagine the line of questioning...... "Why you no take bebby?" "You don't like, Thai bebby velly goose?"

Edited August 4, 201411 yr by Payboy

Yes indeed.

 

Smells hugely of a cynical con trick. And not by the Australians.

 

Let's see how many other occurrences spring up, inspired by the vast amount of money donated by fools who know nothing of the grab-it-all-if-possible culture.

The father is a low life piece of scum, a pedophile who was out to cultivate a victim.  I don't think the Thai was running a scam.

I am having some difficulty in understanding this entire thread. 

As I understand the givens .....

 

We have an Australian couple who want a child but are unable to have one naturally.

They consider the possibility of a surrogacy mother.

The Aus couple are able to afford the requested fees and greatly want a child  

The desire for their own child, they decide, is worth all the difficulties they know they will encounter.

 

They employ a Thai woman to be the surrogate mother.

The fertilized egg from the Aus couple is implanted into the Thai surrogate.

Now I understand that this is not like running of a copy from a copy machine, but in reality the process does take approx. 9 months to develop.

 

Now the Aus couple claims that they had no knowledge of the second baby.  No one told them, no one mentioned the condition of the surrogate mother during the entire 9 month period. 

 

I find it almost impossible to believe that a caring couple, who obviously want a child very badly, can obviously afford the rigors and difficulties of the process,  ..... would not be in some type of contact daily or at least every week with the surrogate to find out if all is going well; is there any difficulty with the maturing process of the baby; is there anything our baby is in need of;   ,,,, etc etc...   and now they say they did not know there was a second baby ! ! !    Difficult to comprehend   I think if I had been the father, I may even have temporarily moved to Thailand for the duration, and wait for the baby.

DNA from Aussie parents. Compare to young Gammy. Either he is their genetic off spring, or he isn't. Nothing more to prove.

I am having some difficulty in understanding this entire thread. 

As I understand the givens .....

 

We have an Australian couple who want a child but are unable to have one naturally.

They consider the possibility of a surrogacy mother.

The Aus couple are able to afford the requested fees and greatly want a child  

The desire for their own child, they decide, is worth all the difficulties they know they will encounter.

 

They employ a Thai woman to be the surrogate mother.

The fertilized egg from the Aus couple is implanted into the Thai surrogate.

Now I understand that this is not like running of a copy from a copy machine, but in reality the process does take approx. 9 months to develop.

 

Now the Aus couple claims that they had no knowledge of the second baby.  No one told them, no one mentioned the condition of the surrogate mother during the entire 9 month period. 

 

I find it almost impossible to believe that a caring couple, who obviously want a child very badly, can obviously afford the rigors and difficulties of the process,  ..... would not be in some type of contact daily or at least every week with the surrogate to find out if all is going well; is there any difficulty with the maturing process of the baby; is there anything our baby is in need of;   ,,,, etc etc...   and now they say they did not know there was a second baby ! ! !    Difficult to comprehend   I think if I had been the father, I may even have temporarily moved to Thailand for the duration, and wait for the baby.

The pedophile didn't want the Down Syndrome child, that is the whole story.

DNA from Aussie parents. Compare to young Gammy. Either he is their genetic off spring, or he isn't. Nothing more to prove.

That would definitely help solve the case coupled with the fact that Pattaramon Chanbua is named as the mother on their daughters birth certificate.  The same woman who is also named on gammy's birth certificate born at the same time.

Why couldn't have the doctor planted two fertilized eggs stating only one and selling off the second one?

DNA from Aussie parents. Compare to young Gammy. Either he is their genetic off spring, or he isn't. Nothing more to prove.

 

 

Forced paternity test in Gammy case unlikely says surrogacy lawyer

 

A surrogacy legal expert says it’s unlikely the Western Australian couple accused of abandoning baby Gammy in Thailand will be forced to undergo a paternity test.

Deborah Awyzio, principal lawyer at DA Family Lawyers in Brisbane, told 9NEWS.com.au there would be jurisdictional problems in Australia with requesting a paternity test, and an application would have to be made in Thailand.

“No one (in Australia) has jurisdiction to force them to do that,” she said.

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/08/05/10/50/gammy-paternity-test#dALgGw9HX8Bdzths.99

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/08/05/10/50/gammy-paternity-test#dALgGw9HX8Bdzths.99

 

Edited August 5, 201411 yr by chooka