Australia investigates 'paedophile' father in Thai baby scandal

PERTH, August 6, 2014 (AFP) - Australian authorities were Wednesday investigating the father at the centre of a Thai surrogate baby scandal who was exposed as a convicted paedophile, to determine whether his young daughter is at risk.

The man, from Bunbury south of Perth, sparked global controversy for apparently abandoning his Down's syndrome baby boy, Gammy, in Thailand and taking only his healthy twin sister back home, although he and his wife dispute the circumstances.

In another twist to a story that has generated fierce debate on the moral and legal grounding of international surrogacy, reports emerged Tuesday that the man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has convictions for child sex offences.

Australian media widely reported that the 56-year-old electrician was convicted for sexually molesting three girls.

State broadcaster ABC said he was jailed for three years for molesting two girls under the age of 10 when he was in his 20s. He was also accused in 1997 of another six charges of indecently dealing with a child and reportedly imprisoned for 18 months.

Authorities in Western Australia said they attempted to contact the couple at their home on Tuesday but with a media scrum gathered outside, no one answered the door.

Western Australia Department for Child Protection spokesman Darren O'Malley confirmed to AFP that an investigation had been launched and said another attempt to speak with the parents would be made Wednesday.

"A full investigation is being conducted into the safety and welfare of the child involved," he said.

"We will talk to the people concerned and information will also be gathered from the police and other family members."

O'Malley said that if they could not track down the man and his wife then "we would enlist the services of the police to locate the persons of interest".

"We have the powers to remove children when there is significant and immediate concerns over their welfare," he added.

"On the other hand, we could find that there is no need for other action."

-- Surrogate mother shocked --

The surrogate mother, Pattaramon Chanbua, said she was shocked at hearing of the child sex convictions and was willing to take back the boy's twin sister -- aged seven months -- if the allegations were true.

"I'm shocked, but I don't know how true it is ... (if it is true) I will try to take the other baby, but that's up to the law," she told AFP on Tuesday.

Pattaramon, 21, has said she agreed to carry another Thai donor's egg fertilised by the Australian man in exchange for around US$14,900.

An agency, which she refuses to name for legal reasons, acted as the go-between.

She claims the agency told her the parents wanted her to have an abortion -- which is illegal in Thailand -- once medical tests revealed the boy had Down's syndrome, but she refused.

The Australian couple have disputed her version, claiming they were told Gammy had a congenital heart condition but not Down's syndrome, and left him in Thailand because doctors said he would not survive more than a day or so.

Thai health authorities say it is illegal to pay for surrogacy in the kingdom and that someone who agrees to carry a baby must be related to the intended parents. The Thai medical council said Tuesday it is investigating who delivered the treatment.

Commercial surrogacy, in which a woman is paid to carry a child, is not permitted in Australia but couples are able to use an altruistic surrogate who receives no payment beyond medical and other reasonable expenses.

To avoid those curbs, Surrogacy Australia said couples are increasingly going overseas to find women willing to carry their baby, with several hundred each year travelling to India, Thailand and the United States.

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Theres some dead fish in this story some in Australia and some in Thailand.

reports emerged Tuesday that the man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has convictions for child sex offences.

 

It's David Farnell... no secret at all..

 

 

Oz

Probably the worst decision that these Aussies have ever made......and continuing to gain rage internationally.

I'm sure the outcome will be new regulations for Australians seeking surrogate mothers.

 

Must definately conduct DNA on those involved.

Edited August 6, 201411 yr by ChrisY1

they have already been named in a previous post so to late to say they cannot be named for legal reasons lol

 

A nonsense post has been removed as well as a reply.  Another post containing a copyrighted South West Times photo has been removed.

How on earth did the Australian and Thai authorities even allow this family to start a procedure to get a surrogate mother in the first place, when a man has a criminal record like that??

They've not only been named, Australian media is running colour photos of the couple. 

Maybe some of the Aussie members can weigh in but what's the chance of the civil libertarians etc being outraged that his previous has become public knowledge ?

no one answered the door!,then smash it down,get the baby

out of his clutches,because once a pedophile,always a pedo. 

its easy to see these babies are a means to an end for him,

a normal person would not leave his son behind,no matter

what the kids problems were.

regards worgeordie

no one answered the door!,then smash it down,get the baby
out of his clutches,because once a pedophile,always a pedo. 
its easy to see these babies are a means to an end for him,
a normal person would not leave his son behind,no matter
what the kids problems were.
regards worgeordie

What sort of woman married a convicted pedophile and arranges for him to get access to a baby girl?


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no one answered the door!,then smash it down,get the baby
out of his clutches,because once a pedophile,always a pedo. 
its easy to see these babies are a means to an end for him,
a normal person would not leave his son behind,no matter
what the kids problems were.
regards worgeordie

What sort of woman married a convicted pedophile and arranges for him to get access to a baby girl?


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God only knows. Let's hope she was ignorant to his past

Of course as yet still no real mention of the role of the agency in this. The honest truth is, if Thailand had proper enforcement of its laws on surrogacy NONE of this would ever have happened.

This problem would not exist if all pedo's were executed as they should be. 

Like most stories, there is more to this than meets the eye. This is being widely covered and hotly debated in Thailand and by Thais in Australia. There is as much misinformation in those forums as there is in this one.

If this guy was in the UK he would have been placed on the "Violent and Sex Offender Register (ViSOR)" for the rest of his life, thought now the can ask to have their name removed after 15 years I am sure the other offences that were investigated 15 years ago would have prevented this or if his name had been removed it would have been put back on (even where there is no conviction).

Part of the conditions of those on the register is they must inform the police if they are living in a household with children under 18 years of age.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_and_Sex_Offender_Register

Edited August 6, 201411 yr by Basil B

reports emerged Tuesday that the man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has convictions for child sex offences.

 

It's David Farnell... no secret at all..

 

 

Oz

 

As already posted on another thread a link to 9 News (AU) who name the farther http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/08/05/13/43/gammy-case-biological-father-string-of-child-sex-offences#09bb9JK6FTZw06GH.99

 

 

no one answered the door!,then smash it down,get the baby
out of his clutches,because once a pedophile,always a pedo. 
its easy to see these babies are a means to an end for him,
a normal person would not leave his son behind,no matter
what the kids problems were.
regards worgeordie

What sort of woman married a convicted pedophile and arranges for him to get access to a baby girl?


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God only knows. Let's hope she was ignorant to his past

Of course as yet still no real mention of the role of the agency in this. The honest truth is, if Thailand had proper enforcement of its laws on surrogacy NONE of this would ever have happened.

 

One report from Australia quoted her as saying he was a good man who had made mistakes in the past so if true she must have known.

 

This story has more twists and turns than a mountain road.

 

 

Who would leave their dying baby alone to die? BS excuse!

This guy shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children. This highlights a need for a global sex offender database. Better yet would be state administered castration.

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no one answered the door!,then smash it down,get the baby
out of his clutches,because once a pedophile,always a pedo. 
its easy to see these babies are a means to an end for him,
a normal person would not leave his son behind,no matter
what the kids problems were.
regards worgeordie

What sort of woman married a convicted pedophile and arranges for him to get access to a baby girl?


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God only knows. Let's hope she was ignorant to his past

Of course as yet still no real mention of the role of the agency in this. The honest truth is, if Thailand had proper enforcement of its laws on surrogacy NONE of this would ever have happened.

 

 

She wasn't. In one article she was defendind him, saying people make mistakes and that everyone should get a second chance.   

Now of course the doctor treating The baby had said there is no heart problem.
So will they return the donations ? I think not .


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Just learnt that this piece of whatever you want to call him also abandoned his dog in his home and fled responsibility. Left the dog chained up for a week without food or water whilst he thought only of himself. RSPCA have moved in to take care of the dog. Seems baby Gammy and the dog are all the same to this life piece of vermin.

Now of course the doctor treating The baby had said there is no heart problem.
So will they return the donations ? I think not .


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The Thai woman has never received a baht, it is trust and administered by Australia. It is paying his current medical costs which are ligit and the child will have future needs considering his Down Syndrome. Special education etc. Money is still needed, donations have not been wasted nor have they been in vain. More money will be needed. Have a heart and think about Gabby and not your hatred of Thai people.

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no one answered the door!,then smash it down,get the baby
out of his clutches,because once a pedophile,always a pedo. 
its easy to see these babies are a means to an end for him,
a normal person would not leave his son behind,no matter
what the kids problems were.
regards worgeordie

What sort of woman married a convicted pedophile and arranges for him to get access to a baby girl?


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God only knows. Let's hope she was ignorant to his past

Of course as yet still no real mention of the role of the agency in this. The honest truth is, if Thailand had proper enforcement of its laws on surrogacy NONE of this would ever have happened.

 

 

She has been quoted as saying she was aware of his first conviction from 30 odd years ago, but it seems not the later one in the 90's. He is clearly a serial offender and should not have access to any young girls. Sick f#$%.

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Now of course the doctor treating The baby had said there is no heart problem.
So will they return the donations ? I think not .


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The Thai woman has never received a baht, it is trust and administered by Australia. It is paying his current medical costs which are ligit and the child will have future needs considering his Down Syndrome. Special education etc. Money is still needed, donations have not been wasted nor have they been in vain. More money will be needed. Have a heart and think about Gabby and not your hatred of Thai people.

 

 

facts, links, information if you are aware of something the rest of the world is not.

How on earth did the Australian and Thai authorities even allow this family to start a procedure to get a surrogate mother in the first place, when a man has a criminal record like that??

If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Thailand has no regulations or screening re surrogacy and Australia can't investigate every person going abroad to see if they are seeking a surrogate.

Now of course the doctor treating The baby had said there is no heart problem.
So will they return the donations ? I think not .


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Don't worry about other people's money or charity.

Only thieves see a thief in everybody else.

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Now of course the doctor treating The baby had said there is no heart problem.
So will they return the donations ? I think not .


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The Thai woman has never received a baht, it is trust and administered by Australia. It is paying his current medical costs which are ligit and the child will have future needs considering his Down Syndrome. Special education etc. Money is still needed, donations have not been wasted nor have they been in vain. More money will be needed. Have a heart and think about Gabby and not your hatred of Thai people.
 

 
facts, links, information if you are aware of something the rest of the world is not.

Are you the rest of the world? You can easily find this information without getting off your lazy bum. Even just by clicking links in one of the many related threads.

 

How on earth did the Australian and Thai authorities even allow this family to start a procedure to get a surrogate mother in the first place, when a man has a criminal record like that??

If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Thailand has no regulations or screening re surrogacy and Australia can't investigate every person going abroad to see if they are seeking a surrogate.

 

 

Thailand has existing laws that would have prohibited this surrogacy. Why would they have laws screening someone to see if they are clear to commit and illegal act?

 

Law enforcement and a willingness to break the law for payment are the issues.

 

Seems like you need to pay a bit more attention yourself before admonishing others.

If you were told that your newborn infant had only a day or two to live, wouldn't you want to spend that time with him and give a proper funeral?

 

Instead they got out of town and left him to die.

 

 

 

How on earth did the Australian and Thai authorities even allow this family to start a procedure to get a surrogate mother in the first place, when a man has a criminal record like that??

If you'd been paying attention you'd know that Thailand has no regulations or screening re surrogacy and Australia can't investigate every person going abroad to see if they are seeking a surrogate.

 

 

Surely Thailand has a database for convicted phaedophiles? They could have denied him entry. But I guess not judging by the number them living in Thailand.