webfact Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 MILITARY JUNTANCPO plans to lift martial law THE NATIONFinal decision, however may be left to new govt BANGKOK: -- THE NATIONAL Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) chief has a plan to lift the martial law soon, Lt-General Kampanart Ruddit, director of the Reconciliation for Reform Centre said yesterday. He added that the NCPO had discussed the areas where martial law should be lifted, though it might wait until a new government is formed and let it decide whether to partially or completely lift the law. At 3pm today, His Royal Highness Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn will preside over a ceremony at the Ananta Samakhom Throne Hall to convene the first session of the National Legislative Assembly (NLA), and the assembly will hold its first meeting at 9.30am tomorrow. The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Worawit Sukboon, deputy secretary-general of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC), said the commission will meet today to discuss how the NLA members should file their financial statements. Tomorrow, he and other NACC officials will go to the NLA to explain how its members can declare their assets to the NACC. He said he was not aware if members of the soon-to-be set up National Reform Council (NRC) will also need to declare their assets once the council has been set up, because this is the first time that Thailand will have a body like this. The NCPO on Tuesday approved 14 drafts to be tabled by the NLA, including those for land transport and intellectual property rights that will be stricter than in the past, NCPO spokeswoman Pathamaporn Rattanadilok na Phuket said. "The NCPO has approved 38 bills that are pending passage by the NLA," she said. Meanwhile, the Anti-Corruption Organisation of Thailand will nominate two representatives to the NRC, chairman Pramon Suthivong said yesterday, while the Lawyers Council of Thailand will also push for its members to join the reform council, president Dej-Udom Krairit said. Puchong Nutrawong, secretary-general of the Election Commission (EC), said after the council's meeting to review the qualification of NRC candidates, at least 2,000 candidates will possibly be nominated to oversee the 11 areas of national reform. A selection committee chaired by the governor in each province would select representatives from the province. The EC is expected to announce the opening of nominations for the NRC next Thursday, he said. Meanwhile, on Saturday, the NCPO will hold an event to promote national reform, which will introduce the NRC and explain its composition and how it works. The EC will verify the candidates' qualifications and send all names to the screening committee. If any candidate lacks qualifications, the screening committee would be alerted to that. The EC will meet again today to finalise preparations. While the committee has a time limit, all candidates must guarantee their qualifications in writing, so if there is something wrong they will have to take responsibility. The EC and the Interior Ministry are among the legal sectors that have shown interest in nominating NRC members. The Pheu Thai, Democrat and Rak Thailand parties have said they would not take part in the NRC. The provisional charter states that the NRC would consist of no more than 250 members hand-picked by the NCPO from the nominations made by screening committees. Representatives from each of the country's 77 provinces will also sit on the reform council. There will be 11 groups of committees short-listing individuals nominated by legal entities for 11 reform areas, besides the provincial selection committees.The guidelines for the consideration include urgent issues for making laws related to the government administration to be up-to-date and better suited to the work of government agencies. The other group is the laws that would make people happy socially," she said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/NCPO-plans-to-lift-martial-law-30240422.html [thenation]2014-08-07[/thenation] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Somewhat of a premature announcement. Read the small print. "Final decision, however may be left to new govt' key word "MAY". Edited August 7, 2014 by khwaibah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Front page Bangkok Post Military says it stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozziepat Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Yes, there is no such plan. It's very much a "wait and see" situation that could continue, as in a Bangkok Post headline this morning, "indefinitely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The lifting of martial law will make no difference as the country will still be under military rule as it will still be when the " new government" is formed. Just a change of name. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. Wi9ll be until at least October, when the general retires and stands for election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Somewhat of a premature announcement. Read the small print. "Final decision, however may be left to new govt' key word "MAY". GP has already said all final decisions will be his so "may" is irrelevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ginjag Posted August 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2014 The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. Military ruled for the time being --yes I would think so---And ??? you have an agenda ?? you want the old PTP back ?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The lifting of martial law will make no difference as the country will still be under military rule as it will still be when the " new government" is formed. Just a change of name. Good for now, you are having personal problems with it ??? OR ?? Some of the military may choose suits rather than uniforms, just a change of clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 ......God help us...........so much more still needs to be done.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 ......God help us...........so much more still needs to be done.......... Takes more than 8 weeks to clear the dung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captor Posted August 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2014 The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. Better then political mess! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Watcher Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 ... so will there be a President to oversee/ keep an eye on the new government.... Make sure it does Not roll back into the trough of greed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max72 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. Better then political mess! So we should suggest the Italian, Portuguese armies to stage a coup in their countries to end the political mess ? The mess which was CREATED ad hoc to get an excuse for all this. Always the same story for 80 years and people still don't learn. Intelligence is not part of somebody's skills, I see. Anyway, It won't change anything, but let's welcome the lifting of the martial law and its replacement with the undemocratic interim Constitution written by unelected people. A change of name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captor Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. Better then political mess! So we should suggest the Italian, Portuguese armies to stage a coup in their countries to end the political mess ? The mess which was CREATED ad hoc to get an excuse for all this. Always the same story for 80 years and people still don't learn. Intelligence is not part of somebody's skills, I see. Anyway, It won't change anything, but let's welcome the lifting of the martial law and its replacement with the undemocratic interim Constitution written by unelected people. A change of name. I have not thought so far.. but maybe that is a good idea! Some countries are not ready for the democracy process. Thailand is not for sure, Italy maybe not too, Iraq are not too just to mention some. Now that we have the army steering in Thailand there are finally good things happen. Not only talk and talk and talk... This is very good for Thailand if you ask me. Stability! Edited August 7, 2014 by Captor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. Better then political mess! So we should suggest the Italian, Portuguese armies to stage a coup in their countries to end the political mess ? The mess which was CREATED ad hoc to get an excuse for all this. Always the same story for 80 years and people still don't learn. Intelligence is not part of somebody's skills, I see. Anyway, It won't change anything, but let's welcome the lifting of the martial law and its replacement with the undemocratic interim Constitution written by unelected people. A change of name. Well the Italian army would have done the country a huge favour if they had got rid of the Berlisconi dictatorship a lot earlier than the courts did. The latest coup was to stop the killing of protestors that the PTP party deliberately failed to do & some of their goons actually supported. It was a lot worse than a 'mess'. Whether a constitution is written by elected people or unelected people is irrelevant provided it is accepted, or rejected, by a referendum of all Thai voters. We are some way from another real constitution. Currently there is only an interim one to allow the NLA and the reform bodies to do their job. Lifting martial law has nothing to do with a 'replacement' constitution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Inflammatory posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I would like to know/understand the enthusiasm of so many people here on TV rejoicing the lifting of this so called Martial Law. Why didn't I notice even it's existence? How did it affect you? Had anybody been 'Martialed'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Still a military dictatorship then. Better then political mess! So we should suggest the Italian, Portuguese armies to stage a coup in their countries to end the political mess ? The mess which was CREATED ad hoc to get an excuse for all this. Always the same story for 80 years and people still don't learn. Intelligence is not part of somebody's skills, I see. Anyway, It won't change anything, but let's welcome the lifting of the martial law and its replacement with the undemocratic interim Constitution written by unelected people. A change of name. I have not thought so far.. but maybe that is a good idea! Some countries are not ready for the democracy process. Thailand is not for sure, Italy maybe not too, Iraq are not too just to mention some. Now that we have the army steering in Thailand there are finally good things happen. Not only talk and talk and talk... This is very good for Thailand if you ask me. Stability! "Some countries are not ready for the democracy process." Who are you to decide which country is ready for democracy??? Pol Pot, Kim Jong Hill, Hitler, apartheid, where talking the same BS than you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. Wi9ll be until at least October, when the general retires and stands for election Stands for election? You must mean appoints himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 ... so will there be a President to oversee/ keep an eye on the new government.... Make sure it does Not roll back into the trough of greed?? Thailand being a constitutional monarchy has no president. Here is the new president of the NLA announcement. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/749815-pornpetch-tipped-to-be-nla-president/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The NLA is authorised to nominate the prime minister. Still a military dictatorship then. Wi9ll be until at least October, when the general retires and stands for election Stands for election? You must mean appoints himself. Maybe, so ?? A million times better than the last lost souls. The man is a leader, confident, with that touch of authority needed to bring strength and hope that has been missing for 3 years. Rather have this than a shopaholic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Wi9ll be until at least October, when the general retires and stands for election Stands for election? You must mean appoints himself. Maybe, so ?? A million times better than the last lost souls. The man is a leader, confident, with that touch of authority needed to bring strength and hope that has been missing for 3 years. Rather have this than a shopaholic. So ?? Let me think............Wait I know already. Democracy Form of Government Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens participate equally—either directly or indirectly through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and creation of laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captor Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Hey Bender! :-) Take it easy man! Woke up on the wrong side this morning? You must take care of your heart! I said SOME coutries.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captor Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Wi9ll be until at least October, when the general retires and stands for election Stands for election? You must mean appoints himself. Maybe, so ?? A million times better than the last lost souls. The man is a leader, confident, with that touch of authority needed to bring strength and hope that has been missing for 3 years. Rather have this than a shopaholic. So ?? Let me think............Wait I know already. Democracy Form of Government Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens participate equally—either directly or indirectly through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and creation of laws. Yeah! And that has worked fine for Thailand..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Wi9ll be until at least October, when the general retires and stands for election Stands for election? You must mean appoints himself. Maybe, so ?? A million times better than the last lost souls. The man is a leader, confident, with that touch of authority needed to bring strength and hope that has been missing for 3 years. Rather have this than a shopaholic. So ?? Let me think............Wait I know already. Democracy Form of Government Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens participate equally—either directly or indirectly through elected representatives—in the proposal, development, and creation of laws. Excuse me you actually skipped the points I made and went on with the waffle/bla bla democracy/government/citizens/elected/.?? You had that 3 years ago and they self destructed. YES threw it away through greed. and without a strong leader. Funny isn't it I knew your reply before you posted---the agenda again, not what IS actually working NOW. In a normal country your points would have value, here NO. it is emerging and still needs guidance not elections until it is on the right course. Thai people have to be guided not bought--or given false promises - they were brainwashed for years. Answer please----is the country in better hands (care) and is it moving forward more than before, is there more hope now, is it more stable??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Excuse me you actually skipped the points I made and went on with the waffle/bla bla democracy/government/citizens/elected/.?? You had that 3 years ago and they self destructed. YES threw it away through greed. and without a strong leader. Funny isn't it I knew your reply before you posted---the agenda again, not what IS actually working NOW. In a normal country your points would have value, here NO. it is emerging and still needs guidance not elections until it is on the right course. Thai people have to be guided not bought--or given false promises - they were brainwashed for years. Answer please----is the country in better hands (care) and is it moving forward more than before, is there more hope now, is it more stable??? I can't answer that question after merely 2 months of governance, can you ? What they have achieved so far. Paid the farmers with borrowed money ? Cleaned up the taxi mafia ? Have announced a lot of good intentions, every new kid on the block does that isn't it, but I still have to see the first real achievement. Don't get confused between window dressing and real results. Is there more hope ? I don't know, I would be surprised that the golden child has been hiding for the past 30 years and just happens to be a Thai army general who was supposed to retire in 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Excuse me you actually skipped the points I made and went on with the waffle/bla bla democracy/government/citizens/elected/.?? You had that 3 years ago and they self destructed. YES threw it away through greed. and without a strong leader. Funny isn't it I knew your reply before you posted---the agenda again, not what IS actually working NOW. In a normal country your points would have value, here NO. it is emerging and still needs guidance not elections until it is on the right course. Thai people have to be guided not bought--or given false promises - they were brainwashed for years. Answer please----is the country in better hands (care) and is it moving forward more than before, is there more hope now, is it more stable??? I can't answer that question after merely 2 months of governance, can you ? What they have achieved so far. Paid the farmers with borrowed money ? Cleaned up the taxi mafia ? Have announced a lot of good intentions, every new kid on the block does that isn't it, but I still have to see the first real achievement. Don't get confused between window dressing and real results. Is there more hope ? I don't know, I would be surprised that the golden child has been hiding for the past 30 years and just happens to be a Thai army general who was supposed to retire in 2 months. My main point being, stability, on the right track, officers from most walks of life halted in their corruption tracks, police cleaning up, scams being dealt with, Money must be flowing into government coffers now rather than the syphoning off. there are a hundred things being sorted, results from these have yet to appear. Early days but promising --note I am purposely leaving out elections-what the people want-propaganda, and focus on reality. NO guarantees yet just a little hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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