Thai junta chief tipped to become PM

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Amin, Mugabe, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Prayut.

The world hall of fame is never ending.

You seem to have missed Thaksin, HunSen, that Libya chap, a few Egyptians, Napolion and as some have it even a Bush and a Blair.

Thaksin, Bush and Blair were all elected, not dictators.

(OK, so was Hitler, you got me there)

And I can never spell the Arab names so they don't exist for me.

Stalin was elected, many years, just like his successors

Still maybe I should have asked what you thought those people you mentioned had in common.

I thought Stalin's election was a "vote for me or I have you all shot" sort of election.

Same as the guy here is doing. (which is what they all had in common apart from Hitler, his was a legit election)

[citizen33]

Keep loving this 'we'. Time some pro dictatorship posters take a holiday back to their home countries to gain some much needed perspective.

If Prayuth has his way, they will all be taking a permanent trip back home.

I wonder about that too. Policy on migrants seems to be hardening. It would not surprise me to see a compulsory health insurance requirement for expats, which will cause a big problem for those over 70 or with pre-existing conditions. Some of the geriatric dullards who populate these threads should be careful what they wish for..

[tbthailand]

You have just rather made my point.

Squirrel!!

[FangFerang]

Suthep said they had been planning this for years...this isn't news. The tragic thing is this is better than either alternative. No one here seems to be able to curb the power of public figures, and the military stays in power behind the scenes as they have since Thailand became a Constitutional Monarchy.

I like to read people's opinions about talking points, but picking a side in this seems to me to be like some absurd gambling match with no payout, no stakes, and no real game -- just some absurd smugness about venting online as if that its own reward.

The yellows and reds are equally corrupt -- that was proven in court (hilariously with the yellow "creator" being convicted not just for charges similar to those that nailed Thaksin, but he was doled out a prison term ten times longer than they handed Thaksin).

Amazing Thailand.

[monk213]

Yep it started a couple of months ago and I remember one poster saying this was just the beginning, and boy were they right. Time to leave this place I think, it's turning into too much of a policed state where you are treated like cattle and tabs are kept upon you. Wish you guys all the best, it's not worth the hassle anymore, the cons outweigh the pros. I know various people who are leaving, Thailand's economy is going to be crippled and all I can say then is som nom na

[mojorison]

Hopefully the best PM this country will ever have!!

Fingers crossed.

This is Thailand's last hope for a transparent, fair and clean government. If the army fails, we're back to the clowns and the circus is back in town with its trick cyclists, shenanigans and skullduggery..

No.what we have now is what you get AFTER the last hope for transparency, fairness, and cleanliness has broken down. What we have now is a military JUNTA who make the rules as they see fit with no consultation or concern for the population. It snowballs. Watch and see.

[rubl]

Yep it started a couple of months ago and I remember one poster saying this was just the beginning, and boy were they right. Time to leave this place I think, it's turning into too much of a policed state where you are treated like cattle and tabs are kept upon you. Wish you guys all the best, it's not worth the hassle anymore, the cons outweigh the pros. I know various people who are leaving, Thailand's economy is going to be crippled and all I can say then is som nom na

The cons outweight the pros, therefor leaving? Lucky Thailand

[rubl]

[Amin, Mugabe, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Prayut.

The world hall of fame is never ending./i]

You seem to have missed Thaksin, HunSen, that Libya chap, a few Egyptians, Napolion and as some have it even a Bush and a Blair.

Thaksin, Bush and Blair were all elected, not dictators.

(OK, so was Hitler, you got me there)

And I can never spell the Arab names so they don't exist for me.

Stalin was elected, many years, just like his successors

Still maybe I should have asked what you thought those people you mentioned had in common.

I thought Stalin's election was a "vote for me or I have you all shot" sort of election.

Same as the guy here is doing. (which is what they all had in common apart from Hitler, his was a legit election)

"vote for me or I have you all shot" sort of election and 'same as the guy here is doing'?

The poor guy may be appointed without even seeking the office. Don't you feel pity for him

[monk213]

Yep it started a couple of months ago and I remember one poster saying this was just the beginning, and boy were they right. Time to leave this place I think, it's turning into too much of a policed state where you are treated like cattle and tabs are kept upon you. Wish you guys all the best, it's not worth the hassle anymore, the cons outweigh the pros. I know various people who are leaving, Thailand's economy is going to be crippled and all I can say then is som nom na

The cons outweight the pros, therefor leaving? Lucky Thailand

What they do outweigh the cons these days, I am not on a pension and I am not wealthy so it isn't as easy for me as it is for others I guess. Things have been fine here for several years though and I have been nice and legal, but yes lucky Thailand... Take a look around for god sake, it's going to the dogs. It is becoming a laughing stock more than it was before in areas, and now the Junta will rule with an iron fist. Mine as well live in China or NK. Any of the neighboring countries to Thailand look a lot more welcoming and trouble free these days, so good luck to you oh and good luck to Thailand and it's smiley happy happy economy and people

[96tehtarp]

The man does get things done.

Ok, running for office with no competition kind of makes me wince, nonetheless.

No competition and a stacked legislature.

Like a boss.

He ain't giving up power easily. Just you watch.

He rationalizes his hold on power as necessary for the good of the nation. He reads the surveys and polls which report he has overwhelming and nearly unanimous support from the people. He will be elected without a single dissenting or abstaining vote. He has single handedly returned happiness to the people. He is all powerful.

[djjamie]

Sounds more like North Korea by the day

Sounds like one is really reaching for a comparison that is simply not there.

The Junta in Thailand is offering reform, reconciliation and a pathway to democracy through elections in 2015. The Junta in North Korea are not.

Did the North Korean regime summoned and released potential people that are threats to stability? No. Have the Junta? Yes.

Did the North Koreans assassinated people that are threats to their reign? Yes. Have the Junta? No.

Did the North Koreans set up forums that involved the general population to allow them to voice there ideas for reform? No. Did the Junta? Yes?

Do the North Koreans allow open tourism where you are free to travel anywhere in the country? No. Does Thailand? Yes.

​Yet when the PTP were in power the comparison with them were made with the US and UK governments, not the Central African ones that are more in line with the PTP.

It reminds me of the fred apologist that suggested the Junta was comparing Kritsuda Khunasen, the 27 year old female red shirt arms supplier to Victor Bout. Really reaching there for a comparison. I replied to that pathetic far reaching comparison here as well. Suffice to say he had no reply for me.

I call it reaching for the stars without leaving the gutter.

[rubl]

Hopefully the best PM this country will ever have!!

Fingers crossed.

This is Thailand's last hope for a transparent, fair and clean government. If the army fails, we're back to the clowns and the circus is back in town with its trick cyclists, shenanigans and skullduggery..

No.what we have now is what you get AFTER the last hope for transparency, fairness, and cleanliness has broken down. What we have now is a military JUNTA who make the rules as they see fit with no consultation or concern for the population. It snowballs. Watch and see.

Thank you for your opinion

[djjamie]

Hopefully the best PM this country will ever have!!

Fingers crossed.

This is Thailand's last hope for a transparent, fair and clean government. If the army fails, we're back to the clowns and the circus is back in town with its trick cyclists, shenanigans and skullduggery..

you have an excellent point there.

I had completely forgotten that military dictatorships are famous for transparency and good governance.

At last I can agree with you somewhat although I don't see this as a military dictatorship. I see it more as a democracy restoration effort. Usually military dictatorships don't reform politics and then hold an election a year later. Military dictatorships tend to hold onto power indefinitely. That comparison is similar the North Korean comparison and the Victor Bout comparison. Reaching for the stars from the gutter as I like to call it.

Good governance is promoting equity, participation, pluralism, transparency, accountability and the rule of law. All of which the Junta are striving for. But I must admit I strongly disagree with the Junta not being transparent with their asset declarations.

However at least when the Junta have set about their reforms we are assured the next government will be held to account if they do not show "good governance". I thank the PTP for one thing. For showing us why reform is needed.

Well done and thanks for highlighting this.

Edited August 20, 2014 by djjamie

[Thanet]

How intelligent are you lot by condoning the last 3 years with Yingluck. Conversations from your clan are a no go, one rhetoric one agenda from most, and a minority--that speaks volumes.

Basil was not just commenting on a new item, he was being sarcastic-your lots anti army style of rhetoric. Do you call his comment intelligent ??

a one liner slagging the army.

Without you apologists TVF would not miss out, Without the majority that have more open minds you lot would not have anyone to reply to.

All I say is give Prayuth a chance as we do NOT have much choice. I will resist the doom and gloom if not, every one goes down with the Thaksin Titanic. and PTP.

Yingluck this. Thaksin that, Chalerm the other.

Again and again.

Cut and paste your responses. They are all the same.

[Trouble]

Hopefully the best PM this country will ever have!!

Fingers crossed.

This is Thailand's last hope for a transparent, fair and clean government. If the army fails, we're back to the clowns and the circus is back in town with its trick cyclists, shenanigans and skullduggery..

Transparent, fair and clean government? A little difficult in my view to do by people who staged a coup, appointed a legislative assembly and now a Prime Minister. And we all know there is no shenanigans and skullduggery in how generals come to be chiefs of the military services, etc. Still waiting to see if the legislative assembly and next prime minister were declare their assets. Problem is even if they now declare there will be not be any investigations legal or journalistic as to how they accumulated their assets.

[Thanet]

Hopefully the best PM this country will ever have!!

Fingers crossed.

This is Thailand's last hope for a transparent, fair and clean government. If the army fails, we're back to the clowns and the circus is back in town with its trick cyclists, shenanigans and skullduggery..

By far the worst in Thai history. Crazy money spending for military, less money for education and health. Total and absolute corruption (military officiers will not declare their assets it means they are free to steal as much as they want) .

Never before a government had done so much damage to a country like this one is doing to Thailand by totally destroying it.

Thailand spent the more money on education than any other country--population wise ??

Are you referring to quality, or quantity?

[rubl]

By far the worst in Thai history. Crazy money spending for military, less money for education and health. Total and absolute corruption (military officiers will not declare their assets it means they are free to steal as much as they want) .

Never before a government had done so much damage to a country like this one is doing to Thailand by totally destroying it.

Thailand spent the more money on education than any other country--population wise ??

Are you referring to quality, or quantity?

I'm sure he mean quantity, all 450 billion Baht of them, education budget that is.

[Thanet]

By far the worst in Thai history. Crazy money spending for military, less money for education and health. Total and absolute corruption (military officiers will not declare their assets it means they are free to steal as much as they want) .

Never before a government had done so much damage to a country like this one is doing to Thailand by totally destroying it.

Thailand spent the more money on education than any other country--population wise ??

Are you referring to quality, or quantity?

I'm sure he mean quantity, all 450 billion Baht of them, education budget that is.

So that means nothing then. Quantity in education? Quantity of what?

Educating kids to salute and grovel to the military hardly prepares Thailand for the cold and hard dynamics of supply and demand.

Edited August 20, 2014 by Thanet

[Thanet]

The man does get things done.

Ok, running for office with no competition kind of makes me wince, nonetheless.

Yes, the vote will certainly be unanimous.

Spoiled ballot papers/no votes not withstanding.

There seems to be a misunderstanding. Gen. Prayuth is not running for office. He may be selected / appointed.

Seems only fair. Why should another poor soul get all the nasty comments which resulted for Prayuth's coup

Semantics. Not running, may be selected.

In a dictatorship, there is no difference.

[jaywalker]

Amin, Mugabe, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Prayut.

The world hall of fame is never ending.

You forgot Saddam. That's what I immediately thought of.

Edited August 20, 2014 by jaywalker

[doctorproc156]

Presume there will be only one name on the ballot paper.

And is anyone saying no ?? there is no way out of this only this way. What alternative do we have??, what parties are there out there that would woo the voters, PTP never again-----Dems and the others we do not know. this is why elections are a no go at this time.

Thaiand now has to give Prayuth a chance, but all you splinter members----how about Jutaporn...Chalerm....All this sort of tribe are out to grass.

The PTP are still better than the Dems and the military, so as long there still no alternatives to the PTP in sight, they will simply keep winning. The people have woken up and seen just how much the Democrat-Military circus has wrecked this country and repeatedly silenced their opposition.

[BillyBobThai]

The PTP are still better than the Dems and the military, so as long there still no alternatives to the PTP in sight, they will simply keep winning. The people have woken up and seen just how much the Democrat-Military circus has wrecked this country and repeatedly silenced their opposition.

[doctorproc156]

The PTP are still better than the Dems and the military, so as long there still no alternatives to the PTP in sight, they will simply keep winning. The people have woken up and seen just how much the Democrat-Military circus has wrecked this country and repeatedly silenced their opposition.

And your point is? I'm not saying the PTP is ideal, it's just that right now, they seem to be the lesser of 2 evils which is why they keep winning. I wouldn't vote for them if I could, I would vote for a candidate based on integrity. I think political parties should be abolished all together anyway, as all they are, are just different gangs serving the same corrupt individuals and corporations. Whatever it is the 1% keeps winning.

Edited August 20, 2014 by doctorproc156

[chooka]

If he orders his subordinates to elect him then they have to obey

[tbthailand]

Are you referring to quality, or quantity?

I'm sure he mean quantity, all 450 billion Baht of them, education budget that is.

So that means nothing then. Quantity in education? Quantity of what?

Educating kids to salute and grovel to the military hardly prepares Thailand for the cold and hard dynamics of supply and demand.

there is a 3% increase in education in the dictator's budget.

reprinting text books with corrections for 'Thai-ness'?

[theoldgit]

Offensive comment removed.

[96tehtarp]

Amin, Mugabe, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Prayut.

The world hall of fame is never ending.

You forgot Saddam. That's what I immediately thought of.

How many deaths has Gen. Prayuth been responsible for since his coup? Has he ordered summary executions for enemies of the state? Have there been any mass disappearances, purges. Are there any gulags in Thailand? Is it likely that there will be any deliberately planned famines? Has there been any collective punishment of regions in Thailand that are PTP strongholds?

Comparisons as quoted above do not help the cause of people who support Thailand's return to democratic rule.

Edited August 21, 2014 by 96tehtarp

[outsider]

I thought he said he didn't want that post. Just saying...

[dagobert]

He got it and is now PM

[webfact]

Please continue:

Prayuth elected as the 29th Thai PM

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/753576-prayuth-elected-as-the-29th-thai-pm/

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