Myanmar tests local man travelling from Bangkok for Ebola

[Zeegator]

Myanmar tests local man travelling from Bangkok for Ebola

Where is Ebola, exactly?

"Four friends who are closed contacts with him with no symptoms were also in Waibagi Hospital for under observation and taking laboratory investigation for Ebola."

How much more sad can the repotring gut in thas websute?

Well it can't get much sadder than someone who deliberately claims to misunderstand and ridicules a perfectly understandable headline, and then posts about it.

[siampolee]

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/en/

Ebola virus disease (EVD) is a severe, often fatal illness, with a case fatality rate of up to 90%. It is one of the world’s most virulent diseases.The infection is transmitted by direct contact with the blood, body fluids and tissues of infected animals or people. Severely ill patients require intensive supportive care. During an outbreak, those at higher risk of infection are health workers, family members and others in close contact with sick people and deceased patients. Ebola outbreaks can devastate families and communities, but the infection can be controlled through the use of recommended protective measures in clinics and hospitals, at community gatherings, or at home.

To my mind if the disease can be contracted via body fluids it would seem as if one was in close proximity of someone suffering from the disease who was coughing, spluttering, sneezing etc ones chances or misfortune of contracting this disease is greatly increased.

Remember that old saying ? ''Coughs and sneezes spread diseases,'' It's still pertinent even more so now

[monk213]

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/en/

Ebola virus disease (EVD) is a severe, often fatal illness, with a case fatality rate of up to 90%. It is one of the world’s most virulent diseases.The infection is transmitted by direct contact with the blood, body fluids and tissues of infected animals or people. Severely ill patients require intensive supportive care. During an outbreak, those at higher risk of infection are health workers, family members and others in close contact with sick people and deceased patients. Ebola outbreaks can devastate families and communities, but the infection can be controlled through the use of recommended protective measures in clinics and hospitals, at community gatherings, or at home.

To my mind if the disease can be contracted via body fluids it would seem as if one was in close proximity of someone suffering from the disease who was coughing, spluttering, sneezing etc ones chances or misfortune of contracting this disease is greatly increased.

Remember that old saying ? ''Coughs and sneezes spread diseases,'' It's still pertinent even more so now

Exactly! People who are playing this down are really being ignorant and employing a great amount of folly. Ebola in Africa is very different to Ebola is touristy Asia, there they have dealt with it before and corner infected people off until they either die or get better, sick people walking around Bangkok is VERY different. It is not airborne like I mentioned, but if someone leaves a huge sweat palm print on a surface at the BTS station, coughs or sneezes on someone, the chances are pretty high of infection. 60%-90% mortality rate is nothing to play down and as the specialists have said this is a never before seen outbreak of the disease.

Edited August 21, 2014 by monk213

[BwindiBoy]

I was in Uganda when they had an outbreak, which was the first outbreak in 26 years, apparently. Within each newspaper (carrying the headline "Ebola Hits Gulu") there was a "poster" explaining what to do / what precautions to take - most of which was aimed at how to stop the spread once it was determined that an individual was infected, including how to wrap the dead bodies.

I kept this poster but cannot find it. If I do, I'll post it on here. The main message I took from it at the time was that it was pretty transferable and you definitely didn't want it anywhere near you.

[whybother]

Exactly! People who are playing this down are really being ignorant and employing a great amount of folly. Ebola in Africa is very different to Ebola is touristy Asia, there they have dealt with it before and corner infected people off until they either die or get better, sick people walking around Bangkok is VERY different. It is not airborne like I mentioned, but if someone leaves a huge sweat palm print on a surface at the BTS station, coughs or sneezes on someone, the chances are pretty high of infection. 60%-90% mortality rate is nothing to play down and as the specialists have said this is a never before seen outbreak of the disease.

There are some cases in Lagos, Nigeria, which has an estimated population above 20 million.

[monk213]

Exactly! People who are playing this down are really being ignorant and employing a great amount of folly. Ebola in Africa is very different to Ebola is touristy Asia, there they have dealt with it before and corner infected people off until they either die or get better, sick people walking around Bangkok is VERY different. It is not airborne like I mentioned, but if someone leaves a huge sweat palm print on a surface at the BTS station, coughs or sneezes on someone, the chances are pretty high of infection. 60%-90% mortality rate is nothing to play down and as the specialists have said this is a never before seen outbreak of the disease.

There are some cases in Lagos, Nigeria, which has an estimated population above 20 million.

The Africans have dealt with this before, point number one. Point number two, if it has in fact come to Asia we are in the hands of the oh so very competent Thai 'professionals'. Point number three, this outbreak, according to WHO, is something that has never been seen before.

[whybother]

Exactly! People who are playing this down are really being ignorant and employing a great amount of folly. Ebola in Africa is very different to Ebola is touristy Asia, there they have dealt with it before and corner infected people off until they either die or get better, sick people walking around Bangkok is VERY different. It is not airborne like I mentioned, but if someone leaves a huge sweat palm print on a surface at the BTS station, coughs or sneezes on someone, the chances are pretty high of infection. 60%-90% mortality rate is nothing to play down and as the specialists have said this is a never before seen outbreak of the disease.

There are some cases in Lagos, Nigeria, which has an estimated population above 20 million.

The Africans have dealt with this before, point number one. Point number two, if it has in fact come to Asia we are in the hands of the oh so very competent Thai 'professionals'. Point number three, this outbreak, according to WHO, is something that has never been seen before.

The virus has never got into the cities in Africa. It has usually been contained in villages.

The health system in Bangkok is MUCH better than in Western Africa ... as well has Bangkok having running water and being far better developed. Huge areas of the western African cities are slum areas.

If the outbreak "has never been seen before", the West African countries will have as much trouble dealing with it as any Asian countries.

[doctorproc156]

This is NOT highly contagious in the way that SARS and MERS are, or appear to be. This does require some significant exposure to body fluids. While vigilance is wise, fearfulness is unwarranted.

Nope, sneezing and coughing can transmit it as well. It was shown to be transmitted between pigs and monkeys without them ever having contact with each other.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423

[monk213]

Exactly! People who are playing this down are really being ignorant and employing a great amount of folly. Ebola in Africa is very different to Ebola is touristy Asia, there they have dealt with it before and corner infected people off until they either die or get better, sick people walking around Bangkok is VERY different. It is not airborne like I mentioned, but if someone leaves a huge sweat palm print on a surface at the BTS station, coughs or sneezes on someone, the chances are pretty high of infection. 60%-90% mortality rate is nothing to play down and as the specialists have said this is a never before seen outbreak of the disease.

There are some cases in Lagos, Nigeria, which has an estimated population above 20 million.

The Africans have dealt with this before, point number one. Point number two, if it has in fact come to Asia we are in the hands of the oh so very competent Thai 'professionals'. Point number three, this outbreak, according to WHO, is something that has never been seen before.

The virus has never got into the cities in Africa. It has usually been contained in villages.

The health system in Bangkok is MUCH better than in Western Africa ... as well has Bangkok having running water and being far better developed. Huge areas of the western African cities are slum areas.

If the outbreak "has never been seen before", the West African countries will have as much trouble dealing with it as any Asian countries.

I don't refer to the facilities but to the mentality and haphazard way that the Thai's seem to go about things, you know, mai bpen rai and all that jazz. Only address a problem when it arises and don't prepare much

[tookwan cottage]

well well well, I know it is not confirmed but to all of those who said it would never happen, never say never. There was ALWAYS a chance of this happening

According to the link below, the virus can only be transfered through body fluids right? So unless he has transfered his saliva, sperm, vomit etc to every woman/man he has been with on the flight and has seen since arriving in Bangkok its probably only him who has anything to worry about. If its confirmed that is, he could just have the flu.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

From what I have researched, the Canadian govt health authority is still unconfirmed about the airborne nature of the virus and the recent Nigerian death was from a man who experienced diarrhea and vomiting on the flight he was on—I think they are still trying to track down all of his co-passengers.

[Preman]

The point that I was trying to make before (in the post regarding when I came into contact with SARS), - is that if someone is infected with Ebola, and travels to another country via the normal method (by air), - it is a very dangerous situation.

Airplane travel is within a very confined space. People do use the toilet, do sweat, do splutter or sneeze, - do leave a body fluid print around that other people are exposed to one way or another.

Not so difficult for diseases to spread. As I said in an earlier post, I have been on the receiving end of that with SARS.

I am certainly not a paranoid dooms day type of person, but I do know that if this outbreak is not contained quickly and a few people start to travel who do not know that they are infected, - then there IS A BIG PROBLEM.

For anyone who has written here that there is not a problem and that the 'authorities' or 'governments' can protect you, - then think again. I ask you how?

I am not in Thailand right now. I returned to Australia last year after being in Thailand for 7 years.

Long enough to know that the Thai 'authorities' cannot really do much to stop this.

For that matter, any country's government including the USA or Australia.

A lot of people just think, "ah, this type of thing only happens to other people". Well, just pray that you are never on the receiving end of this stuff. Because, if you are - or see it first hand, - you will understand how easy it is happen.

Thus my comments.

If this outbreak hits populated cities, - you will see the likes of men in space suits and isolation tents all over the place.

In fact, there was a movie with Dustin Hoffman (forget the name), that had the same theme.

A deadly outbreak of something that started in Africa and went crazy around the world.

[whybother]

I don't refer to the facilities but to the mentality and haphazard way that the Thai's seem to go about things, you know, mai bpen rai and all that jazz. Only address a problem when it arises and don't prepare much

... which is still probably much better than western Africa.

[slipperylobster]

Picture of the virus looks like a half completed "Bowline" knot.

Just thought that info would come in handy in case you are not sure what you are looking for....

[whybother]

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In fact, there was a movie with Dustin Hoffman (forget the name), that had the same theme.

A deadly outbreak of something that started in Africa and went crazy around the world.

"Outbreak"

[MESmith]

Anyone know if the test results are out yet? Getting hot in my homemade biohazard clingfilm suit

[slipperylobster]

Time to get on a self sustaining sailboat and head out to some remote island chain.

[Krataiboy]

This is NOT highly contagious in the way that SARS and MERS are, or appear to be. This does require some significant exposure to body fluids. While vigilance is wise, fearfulness is unwarranted.

yet the CDC recommendation to flight crews seems a bit unsure - red text I highlighted..

... http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/managing-sick-travelers/ebola-guidance-airlines.html

Management of ill people on aircraft if Ebola is suspected

It is difficult to know what illness a sick person has on an airplane without further evaluation and laboratory testing. Therefore , cabin crew should follow routine infection control precautions for ill travelers identified during flight. Although Ebola does not spread through the air, these routine precautions include management of travelers with respiratory illness to reduce the number of droplets expelled into the air.

• Keep the sick person separated from others as much as possible.
• If the sick person is coughing or sneezing, provide a surgical mask (if the sick person can tolerate wearing one).
• If a mask cannot be tolerated, provide tissues and ask the person to cover mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing.

Although Ebola does not spread through the air

Fingers crossed you are right, but not everybody is convinced.

Public Health Agency of Canada remarks:

In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated (1, 6, 13). The importance of this route of transmission is not clear. Poor hygienic conditions can aid the spread of the virus.

Source:

Global Research

website.

[Preman]

I just searched for the name of that movie. I actually named it (without knowing) in my last post above.

The name of the film was "outbreak".

Based on a fictional disease outbreak, - related to Ebola.

I suppose that is where I got those images of people in space suits.

Also, recently on the news - seeing those doctors in Africa.

Lets hope that it just stays on movies and does leave Africa.

[monk213]

I don't refer to the facilities but to the mentality and haphazard way that the Thai's seem to go about things, you know, mai bpen rai and all that jazz. Only address a problem when it arises and don't prepare much

... which is still probably much better than western Africa.

But is it good enough? look how many people have died there, yes more have died of malaria blablabla, but if it has come here are the Thais really ready for it? Ask yourself that. Ebola is no joke and isn't something to be ignored, if you have it you have better odds in vegas at the roulette table with your life literally on black

Edited August 21, 2014 by monk213

[whybother]

I don't refer to the facilities but to the mentality and haphazard way that the Thai's seem to go about things, you know, mai bpen rai and all that jazz. Only address a problem when it arises and don't prepare much

... which is still probably much better than western Africa.

But is it good enough? look how many people have died there, yes more have died of malaria blablabla, but if it has come here are the Thais really ready for it? Ask yourself that. Ebola is no joke and isn't something to be ignored, if you have it you have better odds in vegas at the roulette table with your life literally on black

We started off this conversation about the statement "Ebola in Africa is very different to Ebola is touristy Asia".

I think Asia has a better capability to deal with it than Western Africa.

BUT, is any body ready for it?

Most Asian and Western countries would probably deal with a couple of isolated cases quite well, but if it gets into the general population, I don't think anyone is ready to handle a large outbreak.

[Pundi6446]

Tests came back, positive for Malaria, only

Edited August 21, 2014 by Pundi6446

[eeeya]

time to put a big bubble tent over africa and fumigate

[lucjoker]

ebola is not epidemic ,it acts too fast.Once infected you don't walk for long and you die .

That's why it was always present in Africa,in the bush.Could not spread very wide.

But now air travel makes it possible to spread it everywhere,but it will not be epidemic because the host

will die too soon for the virus to start an epidemic.

Eb Ola

[monk213]

Tests came back, positive for Malaria.

and the source is where...

[Pundi6446]

Tests came back, positive for Malaria.

and the source is where...

Somewhere in the ravels, of the Thai news, my wife read it

[bkkjames]

meanwhile in India.... http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/5-arrivals-india-found-contact-history-ebola-case-40746.html

[Rumblecat]

well well well, I know it is not confirmed but to all of those who said it would never happen, never say never. There was ALWAYS a chance of this happening

A chance of what happening..? Of someone being tested for a disease they don't have? Yeah. I suppose there's always a chance of that happening.

[Preman]

1,200 people have died from Ebola in Africa recently, - about the same as the number palestinians from the Israel / Palestine conflict.

Neither makes huge news. By comparison, - if some USA, Australian or Brits start to go down with Ebola, you can bet the world will wake up and shudder. All of a sudden it will be BIG NEWS.

When the Malaysian Airline flights went down and people died, - it was BIG NEWS.

Strange world that we live in. If or when this becomes an outbreak in "other countries", "our own countries", - then the world will sit up and pay attention.

Better..... "avert the danger before it arises". Pay attention now world.

[monk213]

well well well, I know it is not confirmed but to all of those who said it would never happen, never say never. There was ALWAYS a chance of this happening

A chance of what happening..? Of someone being tested for a disease they don't have? Yeah. I suppose there's always a chance of that happening.

And you were there just holding your breath waiting funny guy. I said that there is a chance and there still is a chance, a very real chance. Anyway the person has malaria, I know a Japanese woman who is in her 70s who survived that, strong woman

[Ricardo]

Myanmar tests local man travelling from Bangkok for Ebola

Where is Ebola, exactly?

"Four friends who are closed contacts with him with no symptoms were also in Waibagi Hospital for under observation and taking laboratory investigation for Ebola."

How much more sad can the repotring gut in thas websute?

Sad that you can't spell, or too lazy to write correctly? i.e."repotring gut in thas websute?" (Do you not have Spellcheck on your device?) I don't find it sad that people who had close contact with a suspected Ebola victim are being tested.A bit like getting rabies shots when you have been bitten by an animal that you only only suspect may have rabies

Jokes are so much more obvious, when you use a smilie, aren't they !