1,900 registered for NRC

[Lite Beer]

NATIONAL REFORM COUNCIL
1,900 registered for NRC
The Sunday Nation

BANGKOK: -- After 10 days since registration opened, 1,907 people have listed as candidates for the National Reform Council (NRC), the secretary general of the Election Commission, Puchong Nutrawong said yesterday.

Some 77 candidates had registered as representatives via nomination by legal entities as of yesterday The total number of NRC candidates nominated by legal entities so far is 586. For the 11 areas of reform, 106 candidates have registered to work on educational reform while 88 have registered for social reform.

The area with the fewest candidates registered is energy reform, with just 20 nominees.

Meanwhile, 1,321 candidates have registered to be selected as provincial representatives.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/1900-registered-for-NRC-30241629.html

-- The Nation 2014-08-24

[Somtamnication]

That explains the stampede to the atms.

[Thanet]

I go to customer meetings where even four or five people find it impossible to make decisions.

Imagine how long this lot in the NRC will take.

Ah, I forgot, the open ended time frame for 'reform' may be part of the master plan.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Thanet

[rubl]

I go to customer meetings where even four or five people find it impossible to make decisions.

Imagine how long this lot in the NRC will take.

Ah, I forgot, the open ended time frame for 'reform' may be part of the master plan.

Your post and attitude is a near perfect example why especially education reforms are so urgent.

[Thanet]

I go to customer meetings where even four or five people find it impossible to make decisions.

Imagine how long this lot in the NRC will take.

Ah, I forgot, the open ended time frame for 'reform' may be part of the master plan.

Your post and attitude is a near perfect example why especially education reforms are so urgent.

How have they proposed to reform education this far? By focusing on creativity, innovative thinking and the sciences perhaps? Or by focusing on nationalism, jingoism and blind veneration of the establishment?

Which of the above skills better equips Thailand for the future, in an ever more competitive world?

Edited August 24, 2014 by Thanet

[rubl]

I go to customer meetings where even four or five people find it impossible to make decisions.

Imagine how long this lot in the NRC will take.

Ah, I forgot, the open ended time frame for 'reform' may be part of the master plan.

Your post and attitude is a near perfect example why especially education reforms are so urgent.

How have they proposed to reform education this far? By focusing on creativity, innovative thinking and the sciences perhaps? Or by focusing on nationalism, jingoism and blind veneration of the establishment?

Which of the above skills better equips Thailand for the future, in an ever more competitive world?

The NRC hasn't focused on anything yet, it hasn't really started without being fully peopled. Please hurry, You may still apply.

BTW even Gen. Prayuth had education on his mind when he mentioned in one of his 'Friday" talks that the change in the visa system had a considerable effect on groups like English teachers. He said that should be resolved. Clearly he was worried about education.

[rickirs]

While the EC was expecting 3,000 registrations, the 1,900 is more than sufficient to meet the membership needs of the NRC as the NCPO will choose a maximum of 250 persons to serve as NRC members. If any sectors fall short of candidates, Gen. Prayuth can just order military personnel to occupy vacant seats and exempt them from EC candidate qualification requirements. Or he can choose to simply reduce the planned membership of the NRC to whatever levels he decides.

[Lite Beer]

Election Commission expects more than 3,000 apply for NRC seats

BANGKOK: -- At least 3,000 people are expected to apply for seats in the National Reform Council for the next nine days before the closure of the registration of application, said Mr Puchong Nutrawong, secretary-general of the Election Commission, today.

Until today, he disclosed that the number of applicants had reached the 2,000 mark from yesterday’s 1,900 plus. He expressed satisfaction with the outcome of the application as the process has, so far, been trouble free.

Of the 11 areas for reform, Mr Puchong said that the educational area attracted the most applicants with the least attraction being the energy sector.

He explained that the planned September 2 closing of application regarding NRC memberships representing the provinces could not be done as the process has to follow the framework stipulated in the Royal Decree.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/election-commission-expects-3000-apply-nrc-seats/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=election-commission-expects-3000-apply-nrc-seats

-- Thai PBS 2014-08-24

[Thanet]

Your post and attitude is a near perfect example why especially education reforms are so urgent.

How have they proposed to reform education this far? By focusing on creativity, innovative thinking and the sciences perhaps? Or by focusing on nationalism, jingoism and blind veneration of the establishment?

Which of the above skills better equips Thailand for the future, in an ever more competitive world?

The NRC hasn't focused on anything yet, it hasn't really started without being fully peopled. Please hurry, You may still apply.

BTW even Gen. Prayuth had education on his mind when he mentioned in one of his 'Friday" talks that the change in the visa system had a considerable effect on groups like English teachers. He said that should be resolved. Clearly he was worried about education.

The NRC, like the NLA, is just another puppet, and whatever it focuses on will probably take years to come into effect.

Seems like its boss has been focussing on education for a while though. If you do a bit of Googling, you'll find articles like this one:

http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1405400955

Hmmmm. The perfect Thai, eh? Kind of like a master race. Sounds a bit totalitarian, don't you think?

Anyway, as the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Don't believe all you hear in Friday prayers.

[Thanet]

While the EC was expecting 3,000 registrations, the 1,900 is more than sufficient to meet the membership needs of the NRC as the NCPO will choose a maximum of 250 persons to serve as NRC members. If any sectors fall short of candidates, Gen. Prayuth can just order military personnel to occupy vacant seats and exempt them from EC candidate qualification requirements. Or he can choose to simply reduce the planned membership of the NRC to whatever levels he decides.

True, and if none of that works he can just write another constitution and do away with the NRC altogether. That might save a lot of wasted time.

[rubl]

Your post and attitude is a near perfect example why especially education reforms are so urgent.

How have they proposed to reform education this far? By focusing on creativity, innovative thinking and the sciences perhaps? Or by focusing on nationalism, jingoism and blind veneration of the establishment?

Which of the above skills better equips Thailand for the future, in an ever more competitive world?

The NRC hasn't focused on anything yet, it hasn't really started without being fully peopled. Please hurry, You may still apply.

BTW even Gen. Prayuth had education on his mind when he mentioned in one of his 'Friday" talks that the change in the visa system had a considerable effect on groups like English teachers. He said that should be resolved. Clearly he was worried about education.

The NRC, like the NLA, is just another puppet, and whatever it focuses on will probably take years to come into effect.

Seems like its boss has been focussing on education for a while though. If you do a bit of Googling, you'll find articles like this one:

http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1405400955

Hmmmm. The perfect Thai, eh? Kind of like a master race. Sounds a bit totalitarian, don't you think?

Anyway, as the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Don't believe all you hear in Friday prayers.

The Khaosod has an interesting way of describing things. Mostly a bit sensational and at times negative to Yingluck government opponents.

Of course, you repeat these activities in similar negative words. Mind you, you might agree with

"Junta leader Prayuth Chan-ocha complained on Friday in his weekly address to the nation that Thais were lacking in morality which leads to corruption and a decline in national prestige."

So, will you apply for the NRC teams or do you not qualify?

Oh and how about this from the Khaosod article:

"The ministry are also canvassing the public for ideas on how to improve an agency that has long been criticised by commentators and politicians.

They have set up a website which will give concerned citizens an opportunity to voice their ideas as well as clarify the junta's education reform programs."

Edited August 24, 2014 by rubl

[Thanet]

Your post and attitude is a near perfect example why especially education reforms are so urgent.

How have they proposed to reform education this far? By focusing on creativity, innovative thinking and the sciences perhaps? Or by focusing on nationalism, jingoism and blind veneration of the establishment?

Which of the above skills better equips Thailand for the future, in an ever more competitive world?

The NRC hasn't focused on anything yet, it hasn't really started without being fully peopled. Please hurry, You may still apply.

BTW even Gen. Prayuth had education on his mind when he mentioned in one of his 'Friday" talks that the change in the visa system had a considerable effect on groups like English teachers. He said that should be resolved. Clearly he was worried about education.

The NRC, like the NLA, is just another puppet, and whatever it focuses on will probably take years to come into effect.

Seems like its boss has been focussing on education for a while though. If you do a bit of Googling, you'll find articles like this one:

http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1405400955

Hmmmm. The perfect Thai, eh? Kind of like a master race. Sounds a bit totalitarian, don't you think?

Anyway, as the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Don't believe all you hear in Friday prayers.

The Khaosod has an interesting way of describing things. Mostly a bit sensational and at times negative to Yingluck government opponents.

Of course, you repeat these activities in similar negative words. Mind you, you might agree with

"Junta leader Prayuth Chan-ocha complained on Friday in his weekly address to the nation that Thais were lacking in morality which leads to corruption and a decline in national prestige."

So, will you apply for the NRC teams or do you not qualify?

Oh and how about this from the Khaosod article:

"The ministry are also canvassing the public for ideas on how to improve an agency that has long been criticised by commentators and politicians.

They have set up a website which will give concerned citizens an opportunity to voice their ideas as well as clarify the junta's education reform programs."

I think that you may be confusing things as there is a difference between negativity and stating the perfectly obvious fact, that the NRC is merely a puppet of the junta. Were it not, it would be independent from the junta'a direct control.

I'd also expect that, as a Dutchman who was born not long after the second world war, you'd think twice before putting all your trust in just one man, and an ultra right wing military man who is in total control to boot.

Doesn't that bother you? Didn't your mother tell you to be wary of such people, that they may in fact be a wolf in sheep's clothing?

[Thanet]

How have they proposed to reform education this far? By focusing on creativity, innovative thinking and the sciences perhaps? Or by focusing on nationalism, jingoism and blind veneration of the establishment?

Which of the above skills better equips Thailand for the future, in an ever more competitive world?

The NRC hasn't focused on anything yet, it hasn't really started without being fully peopled. Please hurry, You may still apply.

BTW even Gen. Prayuth had education on his mind when he mentioned in one of his 'Friday" talks that the change in the visa system had a considerable effect on groups like English teachers. He said that should be resolved. Clearly he was worried about education.

The NRC, like the NLA, is just another puppet, and whatever it focuses on will probably take years to come into effect.

Seems like its boss has been focussing on education for a while though. If you do a bit of Googling, you'll find articles like this one:

http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1405400955

Hmmmm. The perfect Thai, eh? Kind of like a master race. Sounds a bit totalitarian, don't you think?

Anyway, as the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Don't believe all you hear in Friday prayers.

The Khaosod has an interesting way of describing things. Mostly a bit sensational and at times negative to Yingluck government opponents.

Of course, you repeat these activities in similar negative words. Mind you, you might agree with

"Junta leader Prayuth Chan-ocha complained on Friday in his weekly address to the nation that Thais were lacking in morality which leads to corruption and a decline in national prestige."

So, will you apply for the NRC teams or do you not qualify?

Oh and how about this from the Khaosod article:

"The ministry are also canvassing the public for ideas on how to improve an agency that has long been criticised by commentators and politicians.

They have set up a website which will give concerned citizens an opportunity to voice their ideas as well as clarify the junta's education reform programs."

I think that you may be confusing things as there is a difference between negativity and stating the perfectly obvious fact, that the NRC is merely a puppet of the junta. Were it not, it would be independent from the junta's direct control.

I'd also expect that, as a Dutchman who was born not long after the second world war, you'd think twice before putting all your trust in just one man, and an ultra right wing military man who is in total control to boot.

Doesn't that bother you? Didn't your mother tell you to be wary of such people, that they may in fact be a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Edited August 24, 2014 by Thanet

[rubl]

The NRC hasn't focused on anything yet, it hasn't really started without being fully peopled. Please hurry, You may still apply.

BTW even Gen. Prayuth had education on his mind when he mentioned in one of his 'Friday" talks that the change in the visa system had a considerable effect on groups like English teachers. He said that should be resolved. Clearly he was worried about education.

The NRC, like the NLA, is just another puppet, and whatever it focuses on will probably take years to come into effect.

Seems like its boss has been focussing on education for a while though. If you do a bit of Googling, you'll find articles like this one:

http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1405400955

Hmmmm. The perfect Thai, eh? Kind of like a master race. Sounds a bit totalitarian, don't you think?

Anyway, as the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Don't believe all you hear in Friday prayers.

The Khaosod has an interesting way of describing things. Mostly a bit sensational and at times negative to Yingluck government opponents.

Of course, you repeat these activities in similar negative words. Mind you, you might agree with

"Junta leader Prayuth Chan-ocha complained on Friday in his weekly address to the nation that Thais were lacking in morality which leads to corruption and a decline in national prestige."

So, will you apply for the NRC teams or do you not qualify?

Oh and how about this from the Khaosod article:

"The ministry are also canvassing the public for ideas on how to improve an agency that has long been criticised by commentators and politicians.

They have set up a website which will give concerned citizens an opportunity to voice their ideas as well as clarify the junta's education reform programs."

I think that you may be confusing things as there is a difference between negativity and stating the perfectly obvious fact, that the NRC is merely a puppet of the junta. Were it not, it would be independent from the junta's direct control.

I'd also expect that, as a Dutchman who was born not long after the second world war, you'd think twice before putting all your trust in just one man, and an ultra right wing military man who is in total control to boot.

Doesn't that bother you? Didn't your mother tell you to be wary of such people, that they may in fact be a wolf in sheep's clothing?

The puppet NRC would be a plaything for politicians and a few others if the NCR wasn't led by a few good men.

You should stop trying to push the NCPO and what it does into what you think is a democratic framework. That won't work because it isn't democratic. It is a temporary solution to the mess politicians couldn't handle.

As for the situation there and here, I already mentioned a few times that democratic systems which evolved together with a population cannot be transplanted with the idea that the population will 'understand' how it works with rights and duties.

The more Thai like you keep fighting the NRC the more likely it will be that the NRC will find it very difficult to get cooperation to help find reforms acceptable to most.

Now, please excuse me, I like to be indoctrinated by watching the T-man series on channel7. The Thai masked avenger. Obviously a program pushed by the junta

[Thanet]

Apart from what one military man tells you on Friday Prayers, what on earth else makes you think that this is temporary? What they say and what they do are not the same.

[rubl]

Apart from what one military man tells you on Friday Prayers, what on earth else makes you think that this is temporary? What they say and what they do are not the same.

That's your opinion.

So, are you going to apply for an NRC seat?

Edited August 24, 2014 by rubl

[Thanet]

Apart from what one military man tells you on Friday Prayers, what on earth else makes you think that this is temporary? What they say and what they do are not the same.

That's your opinion.

So, are you going to apply for an NRC seat?

Eh? What on earth for? It's a puppet to the NCPO, nothing more than fallacious window dressing to placate fools, with the end result a foregone conclusion. Do you really think that people who disagree with the NCPO would stand a snowflake in hell's chance of getting in? Are you really that naive? Asking me to join is as absurd as me asking you to join the Hitler Youth, for goodness sake.

All this nonsense is in any case just a straw man. We were talking about education, remember? You said that work hadn't started, which clearly isn't true as the MOE is already tasked with the creation of the ideal Thai. Khaosod was simply quoting the junta on that one, so your suggestion that this was mere negativity is clearly a falsehood.

I wonder what will happen to the ones who are not ideal.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Thanet

[rubl]

Eh? What on earth for? It's a puppet to the NCPO, nothing more than fallacious window dressing to placate fools, with the end result a foregone conclusion. Do you really think that people who disagree with the NCPO would stand a snowflake in hell's chance of getting in? Are you really that naive? Asking me to join is as absurd as me asking you to join the Hitler Youth, for goodness sake.

All this nonsense is in any case just a straw man. We were talking about education, remember? You said that work hadn't started, which clearly isn't true as the MOE is already tasked with the creation of the ideal Thai. Khaosod was simply quoting the junta on that one, so your suggestion that this was mere negativity is clearly a falsehood.

I wonder what will happen to the ones who are not ideal.

So, I might have been wrong. Does happen, I must admit.

Mind you, you seem to like

""The Ministry of Education already had plans to reform our curriculum before [the general's speech] but since then we have been charged with including [the junta's] ideas into the curriculum," said Valaitat, an official inside the ministry who did not want to give her full name."

but ignore

"The ministry are also canvassing the public for ideas on how to improve an agency that has long been criticised by commentators and politicians.

They have set up a website which will give concerned citizens an opportunity to voice their ideas as well as clarify the junta's education reform programs."

What you think of the NRC is up to you, your opinion. You can stick to it, no problem. Also helps when the NRC can't come up with meaningful reforms and the NCPO has to force through some or stay on to give the NRC more time.

[Thanet]

Eh? What on earth for? It's a puppet to the NCPO, nothing more than fallacious window dressing to placate fools, with the end result a foregone conclusion. Do you really think that people who disagree with the NCPO would stand a snowflake in hell's chance of getting in? Are you really that naive? Asking me to join is as absurd as me asking you to join the Hitler Youth, for goodness sake.

All this nonsense is in any case just a straw man. We were talking about education, remember? You said that work hadn't started, which clearly isn't true as the MOE is already tasked with the creation of the ideal Thai. Khaosod was simply quoting the junta on that one, so your suggestion that this was mere negativity is clearly a falsehood.

I wonder what will happen to the ones who are not ideal.

So, I might have been wrong. Does happen, I must admit.

Mind you, you seem to like

""The Ministry of Education already had plans to reform our curriculum before [the general's speech] but since then we have been charged with including [the junta's] ideas into the curriculum," said Valaitat, an official inside the ministry who did not want to give her full name."

but ignore

"The ministry are also canvassing the public for ideas on how to improve an agency that has long been criticised by commentators and politicians.

They have set up a website which will give concerned citizens an opportunity to voice their ideas as well as clarify the junta's education reform programs."

What you think of the NRC is up to you, your opinion. You can stick to it, no problem. Also helps when the NRC can't come up with meaningful reforms and the NCPO has to force through some or stay on to give the NRC more time.

You must be right coz the general said so on Friday Prayers. Each and every one of the public suggestions that don't agree with NCPO suggestions will be adopted, and the nationalist agenda will be thrown onto the dump where it belongs because that's not what parents want their kids to learn.

The NCPO has already told us that criticism and opposition are off limits, locking people up who disobey, so it logically follows that they'll drop everything and bend over backwards to do whatever the public suggests.

And the NRC has nothing to do with my opinion, being a mere reflection of the NCPO's opinion and nothing more.

[rubl]

You must be right coz the general said so on Friday Prayers. Each and every one of the public suggestions that don't agree with NCPO suggestions will be adopted, and the nationalist agenda will be thrown onto the dump where it belongs because that's not what parents want their kids to learn.

The NCPO has already told us that criticism and opposition are off limits, locking people up who disobey, so it logically follows that they'll drop everything and bend over backwards to do whatever the public suggests.

And the NRC has nothing to do with my opinion, being a mere reflection of the NCPO's opinion and nothing more.

I guess you'd rather go back to the seven month chaos?

BTW nice to hear you speak for 'the Thai'. If you were representative I would indeed despair.

[Thanet]

You must be right coz the general said so on Friday Prayers. Each and every one of the public suggestions that don't agree with NCPO suggestions will be adopted, and the nationalist agenda will be thrown onto the dump where it belongs because that's not what parents want their kids to learn.

The NCPO has already told us that criticism and opposition are off limits, locking people up who disobey, so it logically follows that they'll drop everything and bend over backwards to do whatever the public suggests.

And the NRC has nothing to do with my opinion, being a mere reflection of the NCPO's opinion and nothing more.

I guess you'd rather go back to the seven month chaos?

BTW nice to hear you speak for 'the Thai'. If you were representative I would indeed despair.

Instead of fixating on Friday Prayers, and assuming that you speak the lingo, then feel free to ask around. Thai people have the full spectrum of aspirations and political viewpoints.

Just like in Holland. I guess.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Thanet

[rubl]

You must be right coz the general said so on Friday Prayers. Each and every one of the public suggestions that don't agree with NCPO suggestions will be adopted, and the nationalist agenda will be thrown onto the dump where it belongs because that's not what parents want their kids to learn.

The NCPO has already told us that criticism and opposition are off limits, locking people up who disobey, so it logically follows that they'll drop everything and bend over backwards to do whatever the public suggests.

And the NRC has nothing to do with my opinion, being a mere reflection of the NCPO's opinion and nothing more.

I guess you'd rather go back to the seven month chaos?

BTW nice to hear you speak for 'the Thai'. If you were representative I would indeed despair.

Instead of fixating on Friday Prayers, and assuming that you speak the lingo, then feel free to ask around. Thai people have the full spectrum of aspirations and political viewpoints.

Just like in Holland. I guess.

It's amazing that with such repressive junta only those against speak out here.

I'm afraid the situation in the Netherlands and in Thailand cannot really be compared. Especially a situation with a single party having a majority of seats in parliament hasn't occurred in my lifetime and maybe not even since 1848.

[poweratradio]

How was this thread allowed to exist as it seems to be mostly RUBL and THANET debate/bicker????

Why would an expat even care about this Thailand Government topic/requirement???

Expats can only watch the goings on and try to live with the results.

USELESS thread but it gave the 2 named here a chance to show their intelligence or lack of it.