hml367 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Does anyone in Chiang Mai use this for medicine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreandre Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Possibly Ginseng..i has some and looks very similar to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I have that in my garden, after stealing some seeds from botanical gardens somewhere. Weird plant but forgot the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 My mother-in-law broke off a stem with the flower on the end and applied the sap to some small cuts I had... similar to aloe vera application it looked like to me. The cuts seem quite dry and better than I normally would fare in only a couple hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 We've got loads of them and they are used to coagulate blood. If you have a cut where the blood is flowing a lot you break off the stem and smear the sap on and the blood stops quite quickly. Sorry I don't know the name. I was told there was a female and male version. The other one having more feathery leaves, I;m not sure if that's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 We've got loads of them and they are used to coagulate blood. If you have a cut where the blood is flowing a lot you break off the stem and smear the sap on and the blood stops quite quickly. Sorry I don't know the name. I was told there was a female and male version. The other one having more feathery leaves, I;m not sure if that's correct. That is what happened... thank you for the information. I will keep trying to find out what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Possibly Ginseng..i has some and looks very similar to this. Thanks, andreandre. I will check that out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Some photo site images identify it as ginseng. https://www.flickr.com/photos/rrmronald/3054488229/ http://myraroseilisan.deviantart.com/art/Ginseng-flower-428180672 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konjianghai Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) http://frynn.com/หนุมานนั่งแท่น ว่านหนุมาน or waan hanuman http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatropha_podagrica Edited September 5, 2014 by konjianghai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreandre Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 http://frynn.com/หนุมานนั่งแท่น ว่านหนุมาน or waan hanuman http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatropha_podagrica Hope it is not this one .....'toxic' is not good medicine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 Thank you all for the very helpful replies... now my turn to study!!! THANKS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEO Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Jatropha podagrica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) Thanks again to everyone! It looks like the Jatropha podagrica and ginseng... I will have a much better look next time I go to that house. I seems I could not get a good Thai name from my mother-in-law..... But my Thai language skills are very limited. I don't remember the bulbous bottom of the plant, but it was among a lot of plants and large leaves. Also, with my memory, I could have the leaves mixed up in the picture. You can notice in the picture 2 different types of leaves. I thought it was the larger, lobed leaf. I know it seemed to dry the bleeding in my small cut very quickly. I'll also try to remember to ask more about its uses. Edited September 6, 2014 by hml367 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opalred Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 its the one you smoke ? but wife puts sap on cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaptainrob Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It is certainly NOT Ginseng. Jatropha Podagrica otherwise known as Buddha Belly is a succulent varietal and may be toxic. It does have pharmaceutical properties though I have yet to find anything relating to topical use. We have a healthy plant growing ~ 100m from my front door but like the 'snake bite' herb I hope we'll never resort to using either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Thanks, KR. I am waiting until our next trip to the in-laws so I can check on the bulbous part, if there is. Also, I will try to get a better Thai name from mom. Checking for the bulbous bottom part may require ME to use your snakebite herb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreandre Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 It is certainly NOT Ginseng. Jatropha Podagrica otherwise known as Buddha Belly is a succulent varietal and may be toxic. It does have pharmaceutical properties though I have yet to find anything relating to topical use. We have a healthy plant growing ~ 100m from my front door but like the 'snake bite' herb I hope we'll never resort to using either. It is certainly NOT Ginseng. Interested in how you can be so certain that its not. The leaves above the flower are not indicative of ginseng for sure, but could be lower down out of site. How have you determined so strongly that you are correct just going on the pic? I'm not saying that it certainly IS ginseng, but would like to clarify, as Bhudda Belly is indeed toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 http://www.practicalgardening.blackdovenest.com/2009/10/jatropha-podagrica-or-buddha-belly.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreandre Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) http://www.practical...ddha-belly.html ginseng_flower_by_myraroseilisan Both too similar to decide by photo alone IMO Edited September 7, 2014 by andreandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konjianghai Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) http://www.louistheplantgeek.com/a-gardening-journal/632-jatropha-podagrica Not ginseng for sure. But some how people mistaken for it. It's Buddha Belly. Compare real ginseng leaves to OP picture, it is not the same. Real ginseng flowers are white not red, when it turned into berries they are red color. While Buddha Belly have red flowers and the berries turned in green color. Any way, in several countries people used for medicine while it's toxic. So it seems this is how people in the Philippines named Buddha Belly for Ginseng, which is of course out for profit. Putting sap on small cut will not kill you. But never eat it or over used should be fine. The whole plant is poisenous. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/2445/#b On Jan 13, 2009, lefthandedsnake wrote: this is from the Philippine point of view. It grows well, and can be brought indoors, thus making a great ornament. it is very easy to cultivate, and even a toddler could raise it (I started at the age of 12). Warning: To the Filipinos who are reading this, please be warned that this is what Filipinos commonly know as ginseng. It's poisonous. It can do more harm to you than good. Please don't consume. http://www.cropsreview.com/common-plant-names.html Here is a factual example of how common plant names or common names can mislead: In the Philippines, ginseng became so popular among men as a medicinal plant, primarily for its purported aphrodisiac property. It was even featured on a national television. The root is harvested from the base of the trunk downward, washed, and inserted into a wide-mouthed bottle with wine or liquor. Some use the stem and leaves. But this ginseng is not the same as that world famous plant which belongs to the genus Panax. It is actually Jatropha podagrica, also known by the common names Buddha belly plant, gout plant and bottle plant. Just like physic nut (Jatropha curcas), also commonly called "tubang bakod," "tuba-tuba" and "kasla", and other plants of the genus Jatropha, all parts of the Buddha belly plant are poisonous when ingested. Jatropha plants may contain hydrocyanic acid (Begg and Gaskin, 1994). How Buddha belly plant came to be called ginseng is difficult to establish, but it is believed that it started from ornamental plant nurseries which sell the plant for profit. Edited September 8, 2014 by konjianghai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 I should be going to the house with the plant Thursday. I hope so, then I will get a better picture of the whole plant... kaptainrob... keep your snake bite herbs handy!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Thanks again to everyone for the help. I am going to go with Buddha's Belly. I still have to figure out what the mother-in-law is saying... Something like, "hanuman samaaan gaai (body)". I couldn;t get the whole plant in the picture because it was just too bright. The 1st pic is looking down from the top and then bright and dark. Edited September 11, 2014 by hml367 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 I don;t know why I didn't come across this when I searched before. http://www.qsbg.org/database/botanic_book%20full%20option/search_detail.asp?botanic_id=2281 Kaptainrob... fortunately for me, I will not be needing your snake bite herbs..... yet ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realthaideal Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Dok Hanuman is a traditional Thai medicine for cuts n scrapes, it has been studied for its antimicrobial activity. It's definitely Jatropha podagrica as others have indicated, and NOT ginseng. Yes, it looks similar, but many of the articles out there post to this oft-confused duo of plants. Given it's tropical nature and ginseng's love of high cool mountains and being mostly from places east of here, it is 99% likely Dok Hanuman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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